Eddie Howe

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

The difference between the criticism aimed at them vs aimed at Howe is night and day and we both know that. 

No not sure we both know that. There has been heavy criticism of PIF for a long time. A bit different yes, but thats natural.

[Dr.Spaceman]

The way the PL has gone we're absolutely fucked of we keep that Martin Mark around next season.

 

 

Edited April 12 by Dr.Spaceman

[dcmk]

2 minutes ago, J7 said:

He did, and now we’re going backwards. If I thought things were going to turn back around again, I’d be delighted. There are very few signs of it and I don’t think we should be blinded by our fondness for him. He’ll go elsewhere and do well no doubt.

There were very few signs back in 2023 when our form was dire, just like now, and he turned the form around.

 

He turned around a team that was 100% destined for relegation.

 

People give him very little credit.  It's no wonder the fan base is labeled deluded. 

 

This season has been poor, but we have the right guy to sort it. He's done it twice before already.

 

 

[Cf]

Have I really just seen multiple people suggest we replace the manager who saved us from relegation and just recently won our first trophy in years with Enzo Mareaca?

 

Jesus wept. 

[Sir Joel Inton]

11 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Eh? They got plenty for DOF and CEO situations, the stadium, the trainig ground, the lack of going aganist the PL, the lack of help to Howe. Plenty in the PIF thread.

 

According to @Kid Icarustoday, you’re only allowed to criticise Howe if:

 

1. You can provide a bank statement and two utility bills possessing an NE1 postcode.

2. Are able to share evidence of daily criticisms of the ownership in the last 3 months.

3. Have responded to each and every one of his posts critiquing the ownership.

4. Can provide the CV of a manager who has agreed terms with us, has won the Premier League and Champions League and can guarantee us success.

5. Have never resided outside of England for more than 2 weeks, at the risk of turning plastic.

6. Have never criticised Howe’s delays in substitutions or criticised the performance of a substitute he has bought on.

 

Then and only then may you suggest that Howe got it slightly wrong today and requires 3 more transfer windows, £1.2bn transfer funds and a DoF and CEO of his choosing to fully assess his performance.

 

 

Edited April 12 by Sir Joel Inton

[GEFAFWISP]

#PIFOUT

 

Also #HOWEUT.

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

The CEO situation was a very unfortunate circumstance with Eales illness, but it's difficult to see what direct influence that would have over the footballing side of the club in the short term.

 

The DOF walking seems likely to have been a power battle over transfer policy, which Eddie won.

Eales illness pre-dated last summer's window by almost a year.

 

You need a CEO and DoF in place for the transfer window. By all accounts, no one below executive level knew Mitchell was leaving until he did. Both the CEO and DoF situations were a complete shitshow.

[Dr Venkman]

1 minute ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

According to @Kid Icarustoday, you’re only allowed to criticise Howe if:

 

1. You can provide a bank statement and two utility bills possessing an NE1 postcode.

2. Are able to share evidence of daily criticisms of the ownership in the last 3 months.

3. Have responded to each and everyone one of his posts critiquing the ownership.

4. Can provide the CV of a manager who has agreed terms with us, has won the Premier League and Champions League and can guarantee us success.

5. Have never resided outside of England for more than 2 weeks, at the risk of turning plastic.

6. Have never criticised Howe’s delays in substitutions or criticised the performance of a substitute he has bought on.

 

Then and only then may you suggest that Howe got it slightly wrong today and requires 3 more transfer windows, £1.2bn transfer funds and a DoF and CEO of his choosing to fully assess his performance.

7. Have never changed your username on Newcastle Online.

[Displayname]

25 minutes ago, Milburn said:

There are barely 7–8 managers in 30+ years of Premier League history who’ve lasted 5+ years at one club.

 

Howe is already pushing into territory most managers don’t reach. Let’s not forget that. Expecting it to just keep going indefinitely isn’t reality.

 

And there’s a reason for that: ideas fade, messages stop landing, and performances plateau. That’s just the natural cycle in modern football. And that is where we are now.

 

And regardless of how successful he might be elsewhere in the future, that wouldn’t change the fact that moving on now feels like the right decision for Newcastle.

Also the right decision for Eddie tbh. 

Dude needs a break.. It's obvious.

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, andycap said:

They keep the ball a lot better than us like and can control games. 

Most teams do tbf, doesn’t make them possession based.

[J7]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

There were very few signs back in 2023 when our form was dire, just like now, and he turned the form around.

 

He turned around a team that was 100% destined for relegation.

 

People give him very little credit.  It's no wonder the fan base is labeled deluded. 

 

This season has been poor, but we have the right guy to sort it. He's done it twice before already.

 

 

Na, it was nothing like this. We’re going on a year now of these kind of performances. 
 

He gets massive credit for what he did when he came in, but coming in and turning things round is different to needing to turn it round when you’ve been the manager. Players lose confidence in a manager and stop listening to them, even if it’s subconscious. 

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

No not sure we both know that. There has been heavy criticism of PIF for a long time. A bit different yes, but thats natural.

Well then now you see why I said it was pure gaslighting.  

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

According to @Kid Icarustoday, you’re only allowed to criticise Howe if:

 

1. You can provide a bank statement and two utility bills possessing an NE1 postcode.

2. Are able to share evidence of daily criticisms of the ownership in the last 3 months.

3. Have responded to each and everyone one of his posts critiquing the ownership.

4. Can provide the CV of a manager who has agreed terms with us, has won the Premier League and Champions League and can guarantee us success.

5. Have never resided outside of England for more than 2 weeks, at the risk of turning plastic.

6. Have never criticised Howe’s delays in substitutions or criticised the performance of a substitute he has bought on.

 

Then and only then may you suggest that Howe got it slightly wrong today and requires 3 more transfer windows, £1.2bn transfer funds and a DoF and CEO of his choosing to fully assess his performance.

that's class, I'll post that. 

[nufc123]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

Well then now you see why I said it was pure gaslighting.  

You are doing it pretty well yourself.

[dcmk]

The people who want Howe out, whoever comes in next would you allow them a prolonged period poor run of form?  An transitional season?  How long could you live with underperformance before wanting them out. 

 

As based on our current manager, who has won us a trophy here, who despite the shite season took us to a LC semi, CL quarters and should be much higher in the PL with better defending and goalkeeping, you don't give him much time.  

[Wallsendmag]

8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Like I say, the amount and depth of criticism for PIF compared to that for Howe is night and day.

 

I'm not saying Howe should be absolved of all blame, I'm saying that the blame is focused almost exclusively on him. 

 

He's been backed with over £700m in transfer funds tbf to them. They've also hoyed another £300m+ into the club as well. Obviously there's been issues with staff recruitment and retention above Howe but not sure how they can be held responsible for continuous poor in game management and the fact that his half time team talks seem to kill off any 1st half momentum we might have (25 points now dropped from winning positions).

 

 

Edited April 12 by Wallsendmag

[andycap]

6 minutes ago, Cf said:

Have I really just seen multiple people suggest we replace the manager who saved us from relegation and just recently won our first trophy in years with Enzo Mareaca?

 

Jesus wept. 

Yeah it's forum for opinions. 

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, nufc123 said:

You are doing it pretty well yourself.

If you genuinely believe that the amount and depth of criticism for PIF has been anywhere near that for Howe then godspeed. I'd be shocked if many agreed.

[Fak]

8 minutes ago, Cf said:

Have I really just seen multiple people suggest we replace the manager who saved us from relegation and just recently won our first trophy in years with Enzo Mareaca?

 

Jesus wept. 

 

Maresca isn't a bad manager tbf. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

If you genuinely believe that the amount and depth of criticism for PIF has been anywhere near that for Howe then godspeed. I'd be shocked if many agreed.

From some it was, they where then called out for being entitled.

[ryanegg]

7 minutes ago, RS said:

Even his post match pressers are becoming copy and pastes. Something’s changed. 

Someone mentioned it before, but I wonder how/if at all, the illness he had to take a few games out with last season has affected him? He doesn't seem the same bloke this season, and the team has followed suit. 

 

The number of points dropped over the season is due to poor tactics and partly, the players' concentration. 15 points from what we have lost with better game management would have been attainable, I reckon. That would have taken us 3rd.

 

[andycap]

People ask who would you replace howe with? and when you do they try to ridicule it. 

[nufc123]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

If you genuinely believe that the amount and depth of criticism for PIF has been anywhere near that for Howe then godspeed. I'd be shocked if many agreed.

You denied PIF had gotten much criticism, thats totally wrong.

[Sir Joel Inton]

2 minutes ago, dcmk said:

The people who want Howe out, whoever comes in next would you allow them a prolonged period poor run of form?  An transitional season?  How long could you live with underperformance before wanting them out. 

 

As based on our current manager, who has won us a trophy here, who despite the shite season took us to a LC semi, CL quarters and should be much higher in the PL with better defending and goalkeeping, you don't give him much time.  

 

If we bought someone in during the summer, I’d be happy to afford them time assuming I can see a plan, some positives in the performances and coherence in our play.

 

You know, a bit like I did with Howe when he first came in and it took a while to get going.

 

If someone came in, we had dreadful performance after dreadful performance, they were making the same errors week in week out and we were visibly going backwards, I’d probably suggest they’re not the right person for the job.

[dcmk]

3 minutes ago, J7 said:

Na, it was nothing like this. We’re going on a year now of these kind of performances. 
 

He gets massive credit for what he did when he came in, but coming in and turning things round is different to needing to turn it round when you’ve been the manager. Players lose confidence in a manager and stop listening to them, even if it’s subconscious. 

The summer window was a disaster.  And the reasons for that has been discussed ad nauseam. Everyone knows why by now.

 

If he has credit with you would at least give him the summer with this new structure in place, and see how we start.  He turned a relegation fodder team into a CL team in a summer.  

 

And a team that struggled into a CL and trophy winning team.