Eddie Howe

[nufc123]

2 minutes ago, dcmk said:

How many times does that get bumped compared to the constant whinging within this one?

Quite regularly..

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Again you miss the point, as you have pretty much all day tbh.

 

To simplify things for you. If they aren't backing him with cash to improve HIS team, or they are buying up players that he doesn't want or interfering with the team (see Forests owner) they would have to take a big share of the blame for this awful season. However they have backed him with huge sums of money, given him a lot of power in the transfer market and don't get involved in on palitch affairs so I wouldn't be too harsh on them in this aspect.

 

However trying to shift blame onto them and off Howe for the awful signings he made in the summer, for the poor tactics this season, the 20 defeats, the terrible in game management, the constant 2nd half collapses, all the late goals conceded etc is just directing your discontent at the wrong place.

 

This is just daft at this point

On 08/02/2026 at 09:30, Kid Icarus said:

Your CEO being M.I.A for a year, your DoF walking out on the eve of the transfer window and then the club not replacing either until a month or two after the window closed isn't Howe being given the reigns, or Howe being given control, as if it's some sort of reward or privilege that he wanted or earned.

 

It's all of us being left in the shit and Howe having the responsibility of digging us out of it thrust upon him while those above him looked (and continue to look) at every time-critical decision that's their responsibility and respond to it by throwing their hands up and saying "inshallah". Some might say it's culture clash, or due diligence, others might say it's gross incompetence. 

 

[TRC]

It would be tough for any team to lose their best player, top scorer going on strike. 
 

just look at Brentford.

 

 

Also the team that beat us today lost their best player and their captain and didn’t replace them. Their manager also gave up 3 months ago and still out coached Eddie today.

[Wallsendmag]

2 minutes ago, TRC said:

It would be tough for any team to lose their best player, top scorer going on strike. 
 

just look at Brentford.

 

 

Also the team that beat us today lost their best player and their captain and didn’t replace them. Their manager also gave up 3 months ago and still out coached Eddie today.

 

PIFs fault mate.

[NUFC91]

14 minutes ago, Cf said:

I do understand a lot of the criticism.

 

The PL especially has been poor this season. 

 

But he's still a top top manager. He hasn't become bad overnight.

 

We're having a poor season. It happens. 

 

It's not all on Howe either. The shit show of last summer, the increasingly clear fact he's having to pick from two seconds choice goal keepers, the fixture congestion, injuries (all teams suffer this to an extent but this for us also ties into the previous point), individual errors on the pitch at key times, the PL being as strong as it has ever been, and generally I still argue not having the rub of the green all that often. 

 

Call them excuses if you like. For me they're more reasons as to why this season has been so inconsistent. 

 

It's clear at this point the squad needs a bit of an overhaul. Howe has already turned a relegation fodder team into CL place contenders and cup winners. He's more than shown us his quality and imo we're lucky to have him and should be backing him. 

 

Sunderland bought a keep for £11m who's better than our 2, we also lost out on Trafford with 2 months left to replace him so that's our fault if we have been left with them 2.

 

We can't use fixture congestion as an excuse, palace played Thursday.

[Kid Icarus]

7 minutes ago, J7 said:

I did explain before to be fair. The ownership aren’t going anywhere. Ownership is longer term in a manager in the vast majority of cases. They will be judged on overall direction and on few day to day, week to week decisions due to the nature of what they do. They’ve made mistakes and received a lot of criticism, but again, to what end? 
 

Criticising a manager is different. Their tenure is generally shorter and there are far more things to analyse. They will be judged on overall direction, but also many decisions over the course of a season, during a match, game my game, week by week. Changing a manager is also usually less upheaval, or it should be. 
 

I suspect you know all of this, but like I said you’re just desperately trying to deflect from Howe. You’re not doing a great job.

You're making a distinction without a difference. Of course their roles and how they're criticised are different, but they're not disconnected, the actions of the ownership effects everything - that's why you get expressions like 'the fish rots from the head'

[Sir Joel Inton]

Solely blaming PIF for not replacing the DoFs that Howe has had power struggles with is some stretch even for those two Howe FC supporters.

 

It probably took so long to replace them as it was difficult finding one that he would be willing to work with  

[dcmk]

Just now, TRC said:

It would be tough for any team to lose their best player, top scorer going on strike. 
 

just look at Brentford.

 

 

Also the team that beat us today lost their best player and their captain and didn’t replace them. Their manager also gave up 3 months ago and still out coached Eddie today.

Howe was unbeaten against him before today. 10 goals to 1 in 4 games.  So that's a weird point to make.

 

Those teams also have organised backrooms and structure in place.  With good scouting.

 

 

[dcmk]

8 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

Quite regularly..

This has had 20 new pages since FT.

 

How many new pages has the PIF one had since then?

[Wallsendmag]

2 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Howe was unbeaten against him before today. 10 goals to 1 in 4 games.  So that's a weird point to make.

 

Those teams also have organised backrooms and structure in place.  With good scouting.

 

 

 

Shows how much we're regressing then. Thanks for pointing that out.

[nufc123]

1 minute ago, dcmk said:

This has had 20 new pages since FT.

 

How many new pages has the PIF one had since then?

That was not the question you asked.

[Kid Icarus]

9 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

Solely blaming PIF for not replacing the DoFs that Howe has had power struggles with is some stretch even for those two Howe FC supporters.

 

It probably took so long to replace them as it was difficult finding one that he would be willing to work with  

Howe had a power struggle with one DoF. The one who reportedly had a power struggle with everyone and did the sum total of fuck all in his time here.

 

The other DoF had such a power struggle with Howe that according to mutiple reports he wanted to bring him to Man United and ironically walked out because he lost that power struggle and they got Amorim instead.

 

 

Edited April 12 by Kid Icarus

[Menace]

4 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Howe was unbeaten against him before today. 10 goals to 1 in 4 games.  So that's a weird point to make.

 

Those teams also have organised backrooms and structure in place.  With good scouting.

 

 

 

What?  

 

They're in a worse situation than us on and off the pitch yet were still the better team today. Their manager has been begging to go for months for fuck sake - Mateta only came on as he had failed a medical in January to sign for another team

 

So which one is it? Do they have a better structure than us or do they not?

 

 

Edited April 12 by Menace

[GEFAFWISP]

I thought the "name who you think should replace him?" was a lame counter argument but "PIF get less criticism than the manager straight after a game" somehow tops it for inconsequential guff.

 

Just need someone to say there's been a straw man sighted and we're peaking.

[dcmk]

Just now, Wallsendmag said:

 

Shows how much we're regressing then. Thanks for pointing that out.

Shows how much of a poor domestic campaign it has been.

 

Like the one we had before we turned it around in the summer and got a cup and CL spot.

 

I get it people want new shiny things every now and then. Shows how fickle and forgetful people can be.

 

[bobbydazzla]

Police Academy 1-4 were all excellent films but 5,6,7 were absolute dogshit

 

Just putting that out there 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 12 by bobbydazzla

[TRC]

6 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Howe was unbeaten against him before today. 10 goals to 1 in 4 games.  So that's a weird point to make.

 

Those teams also have organised backrooms and structure in place.  With good scouting.

 

 

Didn’t palace ruin us last year or the year before?

[dcmk]

2 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

That was not the question you asked.

I said the level of criticism is vastly different between Howe and PIF.. Which you disagreed with for some reason.

 

This has 20 new pages since FT. And the other has just over 1.  Quite a stark difference.

[midds]

Genuinely feels like the middle of the end at this point. Teams are always a reflection of the manager and this team looks stale, tired and mistake-ridden. He's done an unbelievable job since he was appointed but I think this repair job is beyond him unfortunately - the volume and manner of the results and performances he's getting out of his squad are pretty pathetic. The whole identity of the squad has changed completely, the system has stopped working and, at this stage, Howe appears unable or unwilling to change things enough. He's had an awful lot of things go against him that are beyond his control but after a 3 week break to rest, recharge, organise and train the team for this match and to serve up the performance they did is utterly shit. 

 

It was de ja vu and yet another dismal second half, not helped by passive management and poor reactive subs having watched his team cede control almost deliberately. He's not learning and he's not changing and it's not getting fixed this time imo. I think it's a matter of time now

[nufc123]

Just now, dcmk said:

I said the level of criticism is vastly different between Howe and PIF.. Which you disagreed with for some reason.

 

This has 20 new pages since FT. And the other has just over 1.  Quite a stark difference.

Giving you the same vague answers as you did with our striker situation.

[Wallsendmag]

Just now, dcmk said:

Shows how much of a poor domestic campaign it has been.

 

Like the one we had before we turned it around in the summer and got a cup and CL spot.

 

I get it people want new shiny things every now and then. Shows how fickle and forgetful people can be.

 

 

Nothing fickle about calling out shit result and performance after shit result and performance pal. 

 

You're just one of those who won't see anything bad against Howe regardless of how bad it gets because he won the League Cup. That's fair enough but all I'll say is that I hope the decision makers at the club are more ruthless than you, othwrwise ultimately we just go backwards.

 

He'll have been here 5 years in October. Most PL managers last around 18 months-2 years. Maybe there's an actual reason for that because as things stand we just look so stale and out of ideas.

[OpenC]

We've been a bang average laughing stock of a club for fucking decades. The best we ever got labelled was 'sleeping giant', based on pretty much nowt except a passionate fanbase and being everybody's second favourite team years, decades ago.

 

I don't know what some of you lads and lasses have been watching all this time that makes you feel we can and should expect continuous year on year improvement, in a 'sporting' environment that goes out of its way to nullify in every way it can the one advantage we have, rich ownership.

 

I agree the 433 is infuriating. I agree the subs are Bobby Robson level predictable. I don't agree with sacking your manager due to one disappointing domestic campaign after he's saved us from relegation then routinely outperformed expectations in the league and gone deep into cup competitions pretty much every year.  Also agree that he's carrying the can pretty much single handedly for the ownership's complete lack of interest last summer and He Got Exactly The Players That He Wanted, which is patently not the case, is just the accepted narrative now.  We've changed, like.  Got our club back and lost our sense of perspective all at the same time.

 

[Dr.Spaceman]

1 minute ago, OpenC said:

We've been a bang average laughing stock of a club for fucking decades. The best we ever got labelled was 'sleeping giant', based on pretty much nowt except a passionate fanbase and being everybody's second favourite team years, decades ago.

 

I don't know what some of you lads and lasses have been watching all this time that makes you feel we can and should expect continuous year on year improvement, in a 'sporting' environment that goes out of its way to nullify in every way it can the one advantage we have, rich ownership.

 

I agree the 433 is infuriating. I agree the subs are Bobby Robson level predictable. I don't agree with sacking your manager due to one disappointing domestic campaign after he's saved us from relegation then routinely outperformed expectations in the league and gone deep into cup competitions pretty much every year.  Also agree that he's carrying the can pretty much single handedly for the ownership's complete lack of interest last summer and He Got Exactly The Players That He Wanted, which is patently not the case, is just the accepted narrative now.  We've changed, like.  Got our club back and lost our sense of perspective all at the same time.

 

 

We can hope to be a side that can win games against Crystal Palace and Sunderland though, right?

 

 

Edited April 12 by Dr.Spaceman

[Lotus]

I’ve got a feeling EH coaches us with a mind to play within a very rigid structure. The tactics and formations do change but I feel, once they are set the players are not encouraged to deviate in any way from it. We have some real ballers in our team but we play very little creativity. It’s all very scripted. Through the last few seasons that has served to make us very hard to play against. Our defensive structure throughout the team was excellent. On top of that we had an absolute unicorn in attack.

 

Now we look very rigid but we’re incredibly easy to play through. Literal several bus widths of space to run or pass through centrally. So, we’re scripted but staid and lacking spark and improvisation. Not having a unicorn anymore we’re having to make do with the level of strikers most other teams have. But we can’t turn that into much that’s productive. It’s all a bit Pardew looking. 

[dcmk]

Just now, nufc123 said:

Giving you the same vague answers as you did with our striker situation.

Ok, so you had no point and nothing actually to discuss.

 

Thought so.