Eddie Howe

[Jesse Pinkman]

27 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We all represent the club, and I think there a plenty who think some are representing it poorly with the absolute venom that they have for club legends who've achieved more than anyone in our lifetimes just over 12 months ago, as well as the perceived entitlement they have based on very little.

 

If we can be proud of elements of the club, there will always be elements that make you feel ashamed. 

 

This is one of them imo, but it's a sort of strange comfort to know that football is just like this now and huge swathes of fans go on like this.

 

 

 

Do you genuinely believe Howe will get us Champions League football next season? 

 

 

Edited May 24 by Jesse Pinkman

[Guillaume]

1 hour ago, Heron said:

At the start of the season I reckon most folk would have took Europa League after reaching the knockout phases of the CL and a cup semi final in the league cup final with going out to Man City in the FA Cup.

 

This is the thing.

 

Lots of uses of passionate and exaggerated statements, views and beliefs in here in a season that has been as expected on the cups and poor in the league, but results wise - we're probably talking about 2 wins...2 Derby day wins.

Yep, I don't think anyone would have said no to progress in the cups and champions League and a top 7 finish. 

 

All those points lost from winning positions...

[TheBrownBottle]

I’d really like to see actions and not words this summer - and I’m not talking about player transfers.

 

If Howe is staying then we all want him to succeed - but I doubt that the ‘more of the same’ is likely to work.  He desperately needs new ideas and new faces around him - a sizeable clearout of those around him would be beneficial.  I doubt it will happen, but truly top managers / head coaches don’t stick with the same assistant and coaches forever. 

[Kid Icarus]

15 minutes ago, Minhosa said:

If patronising was an Olympic sport, you’d be a gold medalist. 

Yous are proper weird man.

 

We all moan about the state of modern football and the way fans go on. There are grown men out there calling Howe, Burn, and other club legends worse than shite all over social media. It's not one person, as someone else presented it, it's a large part of our fanbase and we do all represent the club. If you think that's not shameful, good for you, others do.

 

Sorry if making that case is patronising to you.

[Danh1]

9 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

The home game massively soured my feelings about this current squad and management tbh. I fundamentally don’t think they ‘get it’ when it comes to these games. The level of passiveness and lack of bottle in that second half is something that’s stuck with me.

 

That’s not to mention the absolutely nothing performance at their place as well.

Was the day it confirmed my stance too. I wasn’t pleased with things before that, but the approach to that game, the manner in which we lost it. Fucking hideous.

 

”It’s only another game” maybe if you’re from outside the area, or taking into account that the 6 points we gifted them essentially saw them qualify for Europe whilst we finished miles away in the end. 

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, Heron said:

At the start of the season I reckon most folk would have took Europa League after reaching the knockout phases of the CL and a cup semi final in the league cup final with going out to Man City in the FA Cup.

 

This is the thing.

 

Lots of uses of passionate and exaggerated statements, views and beliefs in here in a season that has been as expected on the cups and poor in the league, but results wise - we're probably talking about 2 wins...2 Derby day wins.

You’re right, that would’ve transformed the season to ‘par’ - but we didn’t do that, we put in Ashley-era insipid, cowardly performances in both matches and as a result a club which was in the third tier when Howe took over is now looking forward to UEFA Cup football next season, and we’ve just finished bottom half. 

[Mountain]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yous are proper weird man.

 

We all moan about the state of modern football and the way fans go on. There are grown men out there calling Howe, Burn, and other club legends worse than shite all over social media. It's not one person, as someone else presented it, it's a large part of our fanbase and we do all represent the club. If you think that's not shameful, good for you, others do.

 

Sorry if making that case is patronising to you.

 

Dan Burn is awesome, don't lump him in with he manager.

 

Dan Burn didn't spent 55 million pounds on Elanga.

 

[Kid Icarus]

23 minutes ago, Mountain said:

He's like a school teacher "we all represent the club"

 

"If you wear this school's blazer you are representing this school"

 

It's kicking a ball around a pitch, I just want us to do it in a less ugly manner.

 

Funnily enough I was responding to a post specifically about entitlement and fans acting like cunts towards Howe and our players. 

 

May as well add another layer of condescension at this point: I wasn't talking about you and wanting better football.

 

 

 

Edited May 25 by Kid Icarus

[Kid Icarus]

11 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Do you genuinely believe Howe will get us Champions League football next season? 

 

 

 

I believe the manager who has twice got us Champions League football in his 4 full seasons is more than capable of doing it again yeah.

 

 

Edited May 25 by Kid Icarus

[Jesse Pinkman]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I believe the manager who has twice got us Champions League football in 4 of his full seasons is more than capable of doing it again yeah.

Okay as Eddie Howe’s biggest supporter on here, let’s put your money where your mouth is. £200 bet. Do you agree? Winnings go to a North East charity 

 

 

Edited May 25 by Jesse Pinkman

[Mountain]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Funnily enough I was responding to a post specifically about entitlement and acting like cunts towards Howe and our players. 

 

May as well add another layer of condescension at this point: I wasn't talking about you and wanting better football.

 

 

 

It's ok I have changed my mind actually, I think you are right.

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, Mountain said:

Dan Burn is awesome, don't lump him in with he manager.

 

Dan Burn didn't spent 55 million pounds on Elanga.

 

The animosity towards by far and away the most successful manager in our lifetimes needs to be studied like. Absolutely mental.

 

[Mountain]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

 

The animosity towards by far and away the most successful manager in our lifetimes needs to be studied like. Absolutely mental.

 

 

I totally agree, it needs to be studied.

[Kid Icarus]

11 minutes ago, Jesse Pinkman said:

Okay let’s put your money where your mouth is. £200 bet. Do you agree? Winnings go to a North East charity 

 

Do I need to place a bet to validate a belief something can happen like?

 

I wouldn't have taken that bet in 22/23 or 24/25 either. 

 

We could finish anything from 3rd to 8th imo, that's been my prediction pretty much every season, I wouldn’t put a bet on anything specific and that goes for any team really. 

 

 

Edited May 25 by Kid Icarus

[sempuki]

Equalled Brewcie's 17 defeats in a season. The season gone is worse than Jabba's feeble effort if you consider the money spent and wasted and the Mackem humiliations. The only good point is it's over.

[TRC]

7 minutes ago, sempuki said:

Equalled Brewcie's 17 defeats in a season. The season gone is worse than Jabba's feeble effort if you consider the money spent and wasted and the Mackem humiliations. The only good point is it's over.

Agreed, 17 defeats under Ashley was expected. Under the new regime it’s unacceptable.

[Mountain]

12 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Do I need to place a bet to validate a belief something can happen like?

 

I wouldn't have taken that bet in 22/23 or 24/25 either. 

 

We could finish anything from 3rd to 8th imo, that's been my prediction pretty much every season, I wouldn’t put a bet on anything specific and that goes for any team really. 

 

 

 

 

If I bet you 200 quid that water will not be wet at 8am this morning, would you take on the bet?

[TRC]

Someone at West Ham has leaked loads of stuff about Nuno to the Athletic. Sadly nothing from our lot.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Been a disappointing league season, just couldn't really build any momentum and it's quite fitting it ended in a damp squib. I just don't understand why after last week he changed it to a back 5 and then pretty much stuck with it rather than switch it when it clearly wasn't working but that has been the case of late, trying different things and it not quite working

 

Cup season was good but no one will remember that

 

Overall he's not been good enough this season but I said it a while back he's done enough in his time here to have earned an off season, however he starts from fresh for next season, the credit has ran out and he has to get off to a good start and/or show something that things will be different

 

For starters he needs to take a break, a proper one, not the one that he had to cut short last summer

 

With the support of Ross Wilson he needs to be ruthless, those that don't want to stay let's move on and those that are not good enough have to be moved on too, if not it could end up being the cause of his downfall

 

Been a slog of a season, happy it's over, hoping for a productive summer and we go again next season

[J7]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yous are proper weird man.

 

We all moan about the state of modern football and the way fans go on. There are grown men out there calling Howe, Burn, and other club legends worse than shite all over social media. It's not one person, as someone else presented it, it's a large part of our fanbase and we do all represent the club. If you think that's not shameful, good for you, others do.

 

Sorry if making that case is patronising to you.

You argue to the nth degree against anyone who isn’t 100% confident that he can turn it around, never mind those ‘calling him worse than shite’. I’ve seen that very rarely on here, but you’re happy to group everyone who doesn’t agree with you together to try and win another ‘argument’. It’s tedious.

[Gawalls]

2 minutes ago, J7 said:

You argue to the nth degree against anyone who isn’t 100% confident that he can turn it around, never mind those ‘calling him worse than shite’. I’ve seen that very rarely on here, but you’re happy to group everyone who doesn’t agree with you together to try and win another ‘argument’. It’s tedious.

He calls everyone else worse than shite than labels people for supposing calling others worse than shite. Fact is for any manager anyone can name whose turned things around when it's got this bad we can name probably half a dozen who got sacked  everything ends badly otherwise it wouldn't end.

[Drewboy74]

1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Do I need to place a bet to validate a belief something can happen like?

 

I wouldn't have taken that bet in 22/23 or 24/25 either. 

 

We could finish anything from 3rd to 8th imo, that's been my prediction pretty much every season, I wouldn’t put a bet on anything specific and that goes for any team really. 

 

 

 

Offered me the same bet a couple of pages back. Must have some money this Jesse Pinkman character. 

[Conjo]

2 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Overall he's not been good enough this season but I said it a while back he's done enough in his time here to have earned an off season, however he starts from fresh for next season, the credit has ran out and he has to get off to a good start and/or show something that things will be different

 

 

I think he should be allowed a slow start to the season as well. If we're bottom half of the table and potentially in a relegation battle when 3/4 of the season if played then fair enough, get someone in to try to survive, while also giving the new manager some time go get familiar with the squad in order to identify where improvements are needed for the summer.

 

No point keeping Howe here if the owners are ready to axe him after 5 games (remember when Shepherd did it to SBR?). Then they might as well get someone else in now and give them the summer window to allow them to get some of their players in.

[Zero]

Emotionally it is understandable to continue with Eddie for the next season. But then logically it is really not a good decision. I mean, we all know the risk of this decision is high and the outcome could be devastating (spending huge in the summer, losing run and fighting against relegation, no more good manager available at that time etc).
 

As a professional management, PIF shouldn’t take such a risky approach. I personally blame PIF more than Eddie. You shouldn’t expect Eddie to just walk away anyway. He won’t walk as long as PIF still supports him.

 

To those Howe-in, I would just say it probably doesn’t worth for Eddie to continue - the chance of turning the corner is slim (objective comment from all parties, believe it or don’t), and the consequence is his legacy could be massively impacted as the consequence is too much to take. It’s up to you to continue your stand.

 

I was supporting him to continue after last game as I thought the 4231 is the answer he finally need - and I was surprised that he threw it away and change to 5311, “successfully” make Fulham looked like Barca again. Yea it could just be he wanted to test it for next season, just like the Hall RB experiment - whatever.

 

 

[Optimistic Nut]

6 hours ago, duo said:

No one doubts the job Eddie has done but the wheels have fallen off this season. Time for a change.

 

We've got a manager whose ruffled their feathers for 3 out of 4 seasons. Some fucking ask for the next fella to do the same. I'm happy giving him a chance to put it right.