SUPERTOON Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 hours ago, joeyt said: We're cutting off our nose to spite our face if we don't go for players that didn't want to join in January I would agree if he was proven class at the price they where quoting, but for that price I would rather spend it on someone with a bit of a better record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I would agree if he was proven class at the price they where quoting, but for that price I would rather spend it on someone with a bit of a better record. That's got nowt to do with previous stance on coming here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, madras said: That's got nowt to do with previous stance on coming here though. It has, what I’m saying is that if he wasn’t convinced in January but was a proven quality player I would have no issue going back in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Can't see us shopping in the PL unless there are cut price deals to be had (relegation, release clauses or out of contract), wouldn't rule out a couple of high level loans. We will just have to overpay for PL players, we will abroad but they will still be much cheaper. We are playing coy downplaying our summer budget. I would be shocked if we don't make a "statement signing" and spend upwards of 80-100m despite letting the world know we wont be spending. So much available out of contract this year I hope we are able to take advantage of that. Kamara for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 A lot of people talk about Kamara from Marseille, but im not sure how much you folks have seen of him. He’s a good player and a talent for sure. However he isn’t very mobile. I think we need some mobility in midfield. Bruno is class but I think I’d like a strong runner next to him. Not necessarily a pure DM either, but one that is quite strong physically and is mobile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 38 minutes ago, Ikon said: A lot of people talk about Kamara from Marseille, but im not sure how much you folks have seen of him. He’s a good player and a talent for sure. However he isn’t very mobile. I think we need some mobility in midfield. Bruno is class but I think I’d like a strong runner next to him. Not necessarily a pure DM either, but one that is quite strong physically and is mobile. Then who are a better option than a "free" Kamara? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, Ikon said: A lot of people talk about Kamara from Marseille, but im not sure how much you folks have seen of him. He’s a good player and a talent for sure. However he isn’t very mobile. I think we need some mobility in midfield. Bruno is class but I think I’d like a strong runner next to him. Not necessarily a pure DM either, but one that is quite strong physically and is mobile. Kamara would seem ideal for a double pivot with Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Then who are a better option than a "free" Kamara? Not sure. I’m just saying that he probably isn’t the perfect fit for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, madras said: Kamara would seem ideal for a double pivot with Bruno. Apart from him not being very mobile I would agree. That’s why I’m not sure he’d be our best choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) I haven’t seen very much of him admittedly. Maybe 10 games or similar. But it’s been pretty obvious to me that he isn’t very mobile. Maybe I’m wrong and he hasn’t been fit in those games or whatever. I don’t think he’d be an awful signing or anything. Also it seems he’s A.Madrid bound. Edited March 29, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Ikon said: Apart from him not being very mobile I would agree. That’s why I’m not sure he’d be our best choice. I think saying he's not very mobile is a bit harsh btw. He's not box to box cos that's not his role, reads the game well, blocks men off, very good in possession, very much the modern slightly defensive centre mid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Sounds like he's off to Atleti anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Ikon said: Apart from him not being very mobile I would agree. That’s why I’m not sure he’d be our best choice. Bissouma is maybe a better fit, but we have so much to do in the forward line that its impossible to say no if Kamara is an option. Dont think we have a very good chance to sign him. Edited March 29, 2022 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Sounds like he's off to Atleti anyway. Yeah looks that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, madras said: I think saying he's not very mobile is a bit harsh btw. He's not box to box cos that's not his role, reads the game well, blocks men off, very good in possession, very much the modern slightly defensive centre mid. I understand that he doesn’t make a lot of long runs box to box or anything llike that. What I meant is that he’s a bit slow, not like Shelvey slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) One player who I think could be a shrewd signing is Florian Grillitsch. If we are looking at realistic ones. We have been linked with him before. I think his contract might run it out in the summer too. We have so much work to do signing attacking players of all kinds too. Edited March 29, 2022 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just now, Ikon said: I understand that he doesn’t make a lot of long runs box to box or anything llike that. What I meant is that he’s a bit slow, not like Shelvey slow. You see, I don't even think Shelvey is that slow, just until recently he read the game defensively very poorly so he was always chasing. Re Kamara I'll take a slight lack of pace for game reading ability all day and FWIW Bruno is no speedster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just now, madras said: You see, I don't even think Shelvey is that slow, just until recently he read the game defensively very poorly so he was always chasing. Re Kamara I'll take a slight lack of pace for game reading ability all day and FWIW Bruno is no speedster. Game reading ability is obviously more important than pace. And I know Bruno is no speedster, but he’s class anyway. That’s why I think we could use another CM that has decent pace, or at least when it comes to shorter distances, to give some even better balance/mix. Shelvey has improved tactically but he’s still slow like, very slow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 It'll be interesting to see how Howe wants to set up and whether it's with two 'attacking midfielders' as he is now or more of a double pivot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ikon said: One player who I think could be a shrewd signing is Florian Grillitsch. Not a bad shout that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Bruno, Big Joe and 1 attacking midfielder would be ace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Joe's position is odd, he's effectively an advanced ball winning midfielder. I do think his attacking game will get better with coaching though. Edited March 29, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 If you replace Willock (who's been great) with a Soler, or Pacqueta or someone very offensive but capable of playing centrally - you probably have the best balance you could have with our setup. I'd not replace Big Joe at all, he's too good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 We need more central midfielders no matter what imo. We have no depth/quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ikon said: We need more central midfielders no matter what imo. We have no depth/quality. Need wingers and strikers more so, I’d say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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