TeddySAFC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 17:55, relámpago blanco said: @TeddySAFC You seem fairly level headed, what is the general consensus in Sunderland about Newcastle's turnaround. I only really see the trolls on twitter and the erratic folk on RTG who all seem to offer out any NUFC fan they see who always backs down from them scared. I can only speak for myself really. The turnaround has been crackers at how quickly it's happened and hats off for last season really. I don't agree with the whole PIF / State Ownership and the same goes for other clubs involved but it is what it is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I'd certainly like Teddy to stick around so we have someone sensible to talk about Sunderland with. Rivals or not, I'd rather proper conversation than playground nonsense. Let's not be like RTG, let's welcome a stranger and embrace discourse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 When I've seen Tyneside Life interview people around Stadium of Light and stuff, they all seem pretty nice tbh. Think it's fair to say that internet != real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Alot won't like it, but there is a helluva lot of similarities between the two sets of fans. Apart from the deliverance bunch and the endless amount of topless 15 year old wannabe gangsters they seem to have, I don't have much issues at all. Of course, if there was a derby on the cards, I'd wish them all a horrible death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: I can only speak for myself really. The turnaround has been crackers at how quickly it's happened and hats off for last season really. I don't agree with the whole PIF / State Ownership and the same goes for other clubs involved but it is what it is now. That's a fair analysis. I miss the derby, there isn't another match like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I’m still going to take the piss tbh. But I’ve no time at all for any aggressive crack. Teddy seems ok to me - I wouldn’t want to see anyone chased away. Maybe a separate pisstake thread is necessary so that semi-sensible SAFC discussions can take place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, TeddySAFC said: I don't agree with the whole PIF / State Ownership and the same goes for other clubs involved but it is what it is now. Out of interest, why do you not "agree with" this? It is, whether we like it or not, the full and well established future of very top level football. We either join in (which we have) or sit there in permanent nothingness. I know what I prefer, I never think about it now, "it is us / we are it" ALL one thing, with a V E R Y exciting future for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, manorpark said: Out of interest, why do you not "agree with" this? It is, whether we like it or not, the full and well established future of very top level football. We either join in (which we have) or sit there in permanent nothingness. I know what I prefer, I never think about it now, "it is us / we are it" ALL one thing, with a V E R Y exciting future for us. As a general principle, it being a bad thing seems difficult to dispute to me. We also wouldn’t need it if others had not been funded in a similar way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: As a general principle, it being a bad thing seems difficult to dispute to me. We also wouldn’t need it if others had not been funded in a similar way. It is not a bad thing in any way !! It is the most effective way of funding a large and successful football club. There is no dispute about that. It is a 'more recent' way of doing things - but that (being newish) doesn't make it bad. Our world continually changes and THAT change has already happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, manorpark said: It is not a bad thing in any way !! It is the most effective way of funding a large and successful football club. There is no dispute about that. It is a 'more recent' way of doing things - but that (being newish) doesn't make it bad. Our world continually changes and THAT change has already happened. Human rights abusing dictatorships using their slush funds to buy foreign football clubs is pretty much the definition of a bad thing for me. I can’t be arsed with the moralising from other supporters though - as if they’d do owt different. And the sport has changed, so this stuff occurs (though the PL did change the rules in April, which will potentially stop future similar takeovers) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, manorpark said: Out of interest, why do you not "agree with" this? It is, whether we like it or not, the full and well established future of very top level football. We either join in (which we have) or sit there in permanent nothingness. I know what I prefer, I never think about it now, "it is us / we are it" ALL one thing, with a V E R Y exciting future for us. Do I really need to explain why I don't agree with football clubs being state run / owned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 minute ago, TeddySAFC said: Do I really need to explain why I don't agree with football clubs being state run / owned? No. I don't agree with it either, but that's football these days, you are either on the inside, or you are outside looking in. I prefer being inside and being able to compete, but agree would be better if clubs weren't state owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, TRon said: No. I don't agree with it either, but that's football these days, you are either on the inside, or you are outside looking in. I prefer being inside and being able to compete, but agree would be better if clubs weren't state owned. Fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Boon Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I love it and if you don't agree, orrfff with your head I say ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said: Fair. As has been said . . . "you are either on the inside, or you are outside looking in. I prefer being inside and being able to compete". Being on the inside is G R E A T !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 8 hours ago, TeddySAFC said: You had a League One standard plodder in Luke O'Nien as a 1st team regular last season man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 10 hours ago, TeddySAFC said: I can only speak for myself really. The turnaround has been crackers at how quickly it's happened and hats off for last season really. I don't agree with the whole PIF / State Ownership and the same goes for other clubs involved but it is what it is now. I agree with that. I had no say in Ashley, I had no say in this. When Steve Bruce was in charge I didn't see a path to us being sold at all. If we did I thought it would be some chancer. Still stand by the fact that when it went through I was actually overjoyed with relief at being rid of him rather than enticed by PIF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Wallsendmag said: You had a League One standard plodder in Luke O'Nien as a 1st team regular last season man Ah, So we are comparing O'Nien who played 95% of his games at centre half or right back, in a team that finished 6th, with Jeff Hendrick who was relegated with Reading and your stating Hendrick would get in our team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viewfromtheafternoon Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) @TeddySAFC You have yet again just finished lower than we have for over 30 years man, there’s NUFC fans in their 30s who have never seen us as low as the season you are all buzzing over. Whilst in our first season of been Ashley free we have just finished higher yet again than anything you have managed in over 70 years no shaming you lot man. I remember all the deluded shouts sunderland fans aimed at us for years, as I’m guessing you all thought we were deluded as we thought we should be in Europe and it was only Ashley holding us back. Well, first season without him and we are straight back up in the top 6 and Europe again where we spent most our PL life pre Ashley. Somewhere you never have been or never will be. Edited June 20, 2023 by Viewfromtheafternoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 I mean, they have played in Europe before. Once. Briefly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Viewfromtheafternoon said: @TeddySAFC You have yet again just finished lower than we have for over 30 years man, there’s NUFC fans in their 30s who have never seen us as low as the season you are all buzzing over. Whilst in our first season of been Ashley free we have just finished higher yet again than anything you have managed in over 70 years no shaming you lot man. I remember all the deluded shouts sunderland fans aimed at us for years, as I’m guessing you all thought we were deluded as we thought we should be in Europe and it was only Ashley holding us back. Well, first season without him and we are straight back up in the top 6 and Europe again where we spent most our PL life pre Ashley. Somewhere you never have been or never will be. Easy white chocolate, don’t want you to melt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 5 hours ago, TeddySAFC said: Ah, So we are comparing O'Nien who played 95% of his games at centre half or right back, in a team that finished 6th, with Jeff Hendrick who was relegated with Reading and your stating Hendrick would get in our team Yes he'd walk into your team. No doubt about it. Reading only got relegated due to a points deduction but even so just because a team finishes higher than another, it doesn't automatically mean that every single player in the higher placed team is better than every single player I'm the team that finished lower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Yes he'd walk into your team. No doubt about it. Reading only got relegated due to a points deduction but even so just because a team finishes higher than another, it doesn't automatically mean that every single player in the higher placed team is better than every single player I'm the team that finished lower. No he wouldn't walk into our team, at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddySAFC Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Viewfromtheafternoon said: @TeddySAFC You have yet again just finished lower than we have for over 30 years man, there’s NUFC fans in their 30s who have never seen us as low as the season you are all buzzing over. Whilst in our first season of been Ashley free we have just finished higher yet again than anything you have managed in over 70 years no shaming you lot man. I remember all the deluded shouts sunderland fans aimed at us for years, as I’m guessing you all thought we were deluded as we thought we should be in Europe and it was only Ashley holding us back. Well, first season without him and we are straight back up in the top 6 and Europe again where we spent most our PL life pre Ashley. Somewhere you never have been or never will be. Who are you having a dig at here, not sure what your point is directing that at me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Don't agree either, sunderlands team did play some decent stuff for the division hendrick had absolutely nothing about him here, wouldn't be surprised if championship is too good for him too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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