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1 minute ago, plenum said:

I wonder what the difference is between the international versus domestic membership in terms of ticketing?

Me too.  My wife got me both my mistake. She thought the international was for international games.  I sent an email to the box office to cancel it but they ignore it. 

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6 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:


away fans would get in the home end. 

There's nothing stopping them buying a membership at any point in the season

 

plus there's always at least 5% on general sale anyway

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I was thinking about this too 

 

Level 7 

 

Prices won’t be £44 ? Will they 

 

How will the ballot recognise membership accounts with links (adult / child) ? 

will you automatically be perched up in level 7 if you ask for a grouped ticket and have a child ?

 

Not sure our ticketing system is sophisticated enough to look at that ?

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3 minutes ago, KetsbaiaIsBald said:

Me too.  My wife got me both my mistake. She thought the international was for international games.  I sent an email to the box office to cancel it but they ignore it. 

Hmm, that's too bad! Another flaw in the it-system.....it should not be possible to buy with a UK address imo.

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8 hours ago, junkhead said:

Veeery badly handled by the club. I recognise that there are big staff changes and all kinds of restructuring happening in the background, but this ticketing process can be detrimental to the atmosphere in the ground and throughout the fanbase in general, during the WHOLE season. Random allocation is simply the easiest route that they could have gone into and coupled with the delay.. this is really pushing it.

 

The hospitality tickets were out today. As a foreign fan this has always been one of the easier options to attend a game and plan a trip in advance.. not anymore - I've had all sorts of trouble with the availability (some games sold out within seconds, then reappeared in random refreshes), gateway timeouts during the payment process (prompting more refreshes and uncertainty if the card has been charged) and since the afternoon -  a server error which indicates that the system is not working at all for anybody.

 

Hopefully we tear all this legacy shit up and start afresh next summer.. with new software and more empathy and respect for the matchgoing fans.

 

 

Good post.

 

I really do worry about the knock on effect on the atmosphere and the mood of the fan base after this screw up.

 

We want to be going into the new season with positivity from club and fans alike, not anger and negativity because folk can’t sit where they want in areas appropriate for them. 
 

Not great from the club this and I think it’ll be down to mistakes/ lack of proper thought/ incompetence rather than any malice. Maybe there’s too many new people all at once behind the scenes and things just aren’t running right yet. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, TheDimpleboy said:


 

I just strongly object to trying to get everyone to 'have a fair turn' for away games. The chance was there for everyone under Ashley, with the exception of young fans coming through now, to build up points. They just didn't fancy it then, cos we got beat every week.


I don’t have an answer for how to do fix it but I still don’t like the closed shop.  For home games I’ve gone to 5-10 for the last 18 years.   I moved away and I have kids. A season ticket would not work for me.  Even now it would not.  I don’t have one as I don’t want to go to every game. I am probably going to lose the ability to go to the games I used to. 
 

To a degree away games are the same. Just because someone has been in a position to go to every away game doesn’t make them some super fan to me. It maybe just means they don’t have kids, or a wife, or maybe have both but can afford it.  Or maybe some one works shifts and can only do 1 every month.  Not being able to go to any as you can’t go to all of them does not sit right to me.  

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8 minutes ago, patrone said:

There's nothing stopping them buying a membership at any point in the season

 

plus there's always at least 5% on general sale anyway

You’ll never completely stop it but I think membership is a decent battier to entry. 

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11 minutes ago, TheDimpleboy said:

 

Oh completely agree, small ballot and checking ID seems sensible. 

 

Our away ends will suffer as a result like, there'll be less groups of daft lads who get their tickets on the bus.

 

I just strongly object to trying to get everyone to 'have a fair turn' for away games. The chance was there for everyone under Ashley, with the exception of young fans coming through now, to build up points. They just didn't fancy it then, cos we got beat every week.

 

Less coked-up weekend millionaires representing NUFC is a good thing.

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Away fans in the home stands, in this argument, has to be an absolute straw man right? A dude and his son, coming all the way up from London, spending whatever that costs travel wise, a night’s accommodations, food, spending 35 a piece for each membership, 75 a piece for a ticket, just to stand next to y’all in SJP to watch Chelsea or whoever? I don’t buy it. 

 

 

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Loyalty is an extremely difficult thing to asses in our current situation, since it was arguably more loyal not to attend a match in the last few seasons. You could argue that people who stayed away are better fans than those who went.
 

Not that I like to compare fans, but the conventional way to assess loyalty doesn’t really work. 
 

Obviously I wish I had taken up a ST under Ashley now. But it didn’t have anything to do with ‘getting beat every week’. It was because the existence of the club was irrelevant. 

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10 hours ago, Dr Venkman said:

Thinking about just getting a refund on our memberships now TBH. If I can’t choose where me and my little lad sit, I don’t think I want to go.


Slept on this and had a chat with the boy this morning, he’s happy to sit wherever so I’m going to stick with it for this season and see how it goes.

 

 

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Loyalty is an extremely difficult thing to asses in our current situation, since it was arguably more loyal not to attend a match in the last few seasons. You could argue that people who stayed away are better fans than those who went.
 

Not that I like to compare fans, but the conventional way to assess loyalty doesn’t really work. 
 

Obviously I wish I had taken up a ST under Ashley now. But it didn’t have anything to do with ‘getting beat every week’. It was because the existence of the club was irrelevant. 

And this is why our thinking on the whole is incorrect, we are custodians for the next generation and we should all be encouraging and supporting the growth of the institution we all profess to love. 

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Loyalty is an extremely difficult thing to asses in our current situation, since it was arguably more loyal not to attend a match in the last few seasons. You could argue that people who stayed away are better fans than those who went.
 

Not that I like to compare fans, but the conventional way to assess loyalty doesn’t really work. 
 

Obviously I wish I had taken up a ST under Ashley now. But it didn’t have anything to do with ‘getting beat every week’. It was because the existence of the club was irrelevant. 

 

Correct.

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1 minute ago, cubaricho said:


Misnomer and no such thing. 


I know, like I said I don’t want to compare fans. But since we were talking about loyalty I wanted to highlight the strangeness of our current situation. 
 

Unfortunately the very existence of season tickets, loyalty points and memberships creates a hierarchy. For access to tickets if nothing else. 

 

 

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We've had membership for years, rightly or wrongly I kept it each season as my way of still having a connection with the club during the FCB years.

 

Last season was a huge bonus being able to get almost any tickets I wanted (home) but that obviously wasn't going to last.

 

I just fail to see the benefits now ?‍♂️

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Just now, patrone said:

We've had membership for years, rightly or wrongly I kept it each season as my way of still having a connection with the club during the FCB years.

 

Last season was a huge bonus being able to get almost any tickets I wanted (home) but that obviously wasn't going to last.

 

I just fail to see the benefits now ?‍♂️

You wrote the “benefit” in your opening paragraph. 

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1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


I know, like I said I don’t want to compare fans. But since we were talking about loyalty I wanted to highlight the strangeness of our current situation. 


As a foreigner I may have to abstain from the overall discussion because I don’t have access to season tickets, and I’m not looking for tickets every other weekend. But I will always stand tall for my love of this club. A huge part of me would argue that strongly supporting this club from just about 4500 miles away for the last 20 years gives me a bit of this imaginary loyalty. What does a “better fan” deserve that I don’t?

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4 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

You wrote the “benefit” in your opening paragraph. 

Not relevant now though.

 

I'd lost interest, rarely watched on TV, never bought kit or did tours, never used Mine bar.

 

That's all changed ?‍♂️

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14 minutes ago, cubaricho said:

Away fans in the home stands, in this argument, has to be an absolute straw man right? A dude and his son, coming all the way up from London, spending whatever that costs travel wise, a night’s accommodations, food, spending 35 a piece for each membership, 75 a piece for a ticket, just to stand next to y’all in SJP to watch Chelsea or whoever? I don’t buy it. 

 

 

 


Replace bloke and son with die hard away followers of one of the bigger clubs. 100% this happens. There was a game a few years back under Ashley where I think it was Liverpool fans and there were lots of issues. 

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These wankers puffing their chests up and elevating their fandom to levels above others because they've been to more games ???

Probably the same ones manking on about signage font, lack of galactico signings whilst watching games they're not attending on their IPTV sat in their DHGate snides. 

 

Tory Britain ?

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5 minutes ago, cubaricho said:


As a foreigner I may have to abstain from the overall discussion because I don’t have access to season tickets, and I’m not looking for tickets every other weekend. But I will always stand tall for my love of this club. A huge part of me would argue that strongly supporting this club from just about 4500 miles away for the last 20 years gives me a bit of this imaginary loyalty. What does a “better fan” deserve that I don’t?

Bear in mind there is International membership ??

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