Sufi Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Ward-Prowse anyone? Proven, experienced, in his prime. Could push Bruno up a bit. Another set piece specialist. I'd be fine with 30m on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I know its underwhelming for some of us who have spent months watching uber talented foreign players on youtube but how would you guys feel about Ward-Prowse, Tierney, Maddison and a good proven PL CB in his prime like Tarkovski? If we spend 130-140m on those 4 and fill out the rest with loans and free transfers. Maybe a youngster for the future like Guler. Personally I would be very very happy with that. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sufi said: I know its underwhelming for some of us who have spent months watching uber talented foreign players on youtube but how would you guys feel about Ward-Prowse, Tierney, Maddison and a good proven PL CB in his prime like Tarkovski? If we spend 130-140m on those 4 and fill out the rest with loans and free transfers. Maybe a youngster for the future like Guler. Personally I would be very very happy with that. Thoughts? No thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, r0cafella said: No thank you. Thats very valid. I know its not a popular take on here. But we could also snag several free transfers on the continent? I'm curious who's on your wish-list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Like what if I replace Tarkowski for Skriniar or something? hahah. Would that be good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Just now, Sufi said: Thats very valid. I know its not a popular take on here. But we could also snag several free transfers on the continent? I'm curious who's on your wish-list. Not Ward Prowse Tierney or Tarkowski. we need a profile of player who can be available to play (rules out Tierney) or who can improve the first 11 which rules out the other two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sufi said: Ward-Prowse anyone? Proven, experienced, in his prime. Could push Bruno up a bit. Another set piece specialist. I'd be fine with 30m on him. We are so far beyond English cloggers with one dimension man. Edited May 30, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sufi said: I know its underwhelming for some of us who have spent months watching uber talented foreign players on youtube but how would you guys feel about Ward-Prowse, Tierney, Maddison and a good proven PL CB in his prime like Tarkovski? If we spend 130-140m on those 4 and fill out the rest with loans and free transfers. Maybe a youngster for the future like Guler. Personally I would be very very happy with that. Thoughts? You’re on the windup right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Fair about Tierney with his health. Ok just looking now at the free transfers here. I kind of agree that Ward-Prowse is meh but hes proven and we know what we are getting. I think CM is the position thats probably most important that we get right. Tons of LBs who can do a job. https://www.transfermarkt.us/statistik/endendevertraege Guirreiro at LB? plays a few positions too. Asensio? Laimer? Skriniar? Dembele? Thuram? Now that I look I dont know if I've ever seen so many good free transfers available. Many of them in their prime as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, cubaricho said: You’re on the windup right? Hahaha. I promise brother I'm not here to be winding anyone up. Just playing devils advocate here. We cant afford a 70m from RBL who potentially flops or takes a year to get adjusted to EH and to England etc. So I guess I'm thinking of who we can sign that we know what we are getting. Less of a gamble. Lower ceiling but a higher floor. I think its a great year to scavenge off other teams in the prem. Those who are relegated, fallen on tough times etc. Lord knows it happened to us for decades. Another random but related question, what about the recent Chelsea model with long contracts and future funds involved. Risky? Tying up all that FFP money going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Not Ward Prowse Tierney or Tarkowski. we need a profile of player who can be available to play (rules out Tierney) or who can improve the first 11 which rules out the other two. Sorry forgot to quote you in the above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sufi said: Hahaha. I promise brother I'm not here to be winding anyone up. Just playing devils advocate here. We cant afford a 70m from RBL who potentially flops or takes a year to get adjusted to EH and to England etc. So I guess I'm thinking of who we can sign that we know what we are getting. Less of a gamble. Lower ceiling but a higher floor. I think its a great year to scavenge off other teams in the prem. Those who are relegated, fallen on tough times etc. Lord knows it happened to us for decades. Another random but related question, what about the recent Chelsea model with long contracts and future funds involved. Risky? Tying up all that FFP money going forward. Can't take a gamble on that 22 year old mega talented, national team captain with 4 years of Champions League experience. Better play it safe and get some of that older trustworthy bottom half Premier League experience to guide us to another top 4 finish and Champions League campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sufi said: Hahaha. I promise brother I'm not here to be winding anyone up. Just playing devils advocate here. We cant afford a 70m from RBL who potentially flops or takes a year to get adjusted to EH and to England etc. So I guess I'm thinking of who we can sign that we know what we are getting. Less of a gamble. Lower ceiling but a higher floor. I think its a great year to scavenge off other teams in the prem. Those who are relegated, fallen on tough times etc. Lord knows it happened to us for decades. Another random but related question, what about the recent Chelsea model with long contracts and future funds involved. Risky? Tying up all that FFP money going forward. The long term Chelsea deals are not wrong ... If you buy the right players at the right price. What if the new Manager wants to change them? One, is there any money left to spend? Two, how much would they lose if they sold them at a discount (do they have to pay all the wages as well?) Might work if it was a long term manager in place but not at a club with a new manager every other year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Can't take a gamble on that 22 year old mega talented, national team captain with 4 years of Champions League experience. Better play it safe and get some of that older trustworthy bottom half Premier League experience to guide us to another top 4 finish and Champions League campaign. I appreciate that it sounds silly. I'd feel different if it was a player from a different league, team and not for 70m. He looks fantastic but so did Naby Keita and a few others at RBL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sufi said: Hahaha. I promise brother I'm not here to be winding anyone up. Just playing devils advocate here. We cant afford a 70m from RBL who potentially flops or takes a year to get adjusted to EH and to England etc. So I guess I'm thinking of who we can sign that we know what we are getting. Less of a gamble. Lower ceiling but a higher floor. I think its a great year to scavenge off other teams in the prem. Those who are relegated, fallen on tough times etc. Lord knows it happened to us for decades. Another random but related question, what about the recent Chelsea model with long contracts and future funds involved. Risky? Tying up all that FFP money going forward. All signings have an element of risk attached to them I think if we did get Szoboszlai it would be less than £70m but still would be a decent amount, the club will do their homework and determine whether he is worth it Isak cost a similar amount and in terms of CL experience I don't believe he had any (maybe the odd game) whereas Szoboszlai has quite a fair bit On the Chelsea model I'm sure it was said FFP would limit it to 5 years, so the 8 year contracts will not help from an FFP point of view. Not sure if that's actually in place yet though. Having said that copying anything Chelsea are doing is probably an unwise strategy anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Agree on both parts there. The only thing is Isak has done it in a few leagues now. Had like 15 europa league matches iirc. Performed ok in limited apps in dortmund, did well for AIK. Did well for Sociedad. Looks great against top opposition for Sweden. I would feel totally different if it was 40-50m for Szo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Sorry just looked at Szo's return in Salzburg. 60 goal contributions in 83 matches. Very very impressive. That nullifies my point about Isak doing it at AIK/Sociedad. Definitely passes the eye test as well. Its just the price and RBL players track record that scares me tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Sufi said: Sorry just looked at Szo's return in Salzburg. 60 goal contributions in 83 matches. Very very impressive. That nullifies my point about Isak doing it at AIK/Sociedad. Definitely passes the eye test as well. Its just the price and RBL players track record that scares me tbh. That's where stats can be misleading, if he sets up 59 nailed on chances and they aren't taken..... that's zero goal contributions. It's a mix of data and watching him (for us) and a whole other world within the game where the data is so finely tuned and the social networks provide so much other info. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 The last thing we need is another Bruno Guimaraes type without PL experience! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Sufi said: Its just the price and RBL players track record that scares me tbh. Over inflated issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I fear the Scott McTominay thread is on its way back soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, elbee909 said: The last thing we need is another Bruno Guimaraes type without PL experience! I'm playing devils advocate. I'd be happy with Szo for 42 million euros (initially) which is what we got Bruno for. I guess my point was if we can justify spending 70m (thats if the rumours are correct) on one position, especially from RBL. He looks like a mix of Bruno and Ben Arfa. I'd love him here. I think its valid to question the fee, league and team based the history of bundesliga players coming to the PL, specifically that club, our budget and on where we are as a club. Maybe its a luxury or a gamble we cant afford. Maybe it isnt. I dont have an issue with us signing him, I've been cumming all over my laptop watching his videos on youtube just like the rest of you. Maybe the bigger question here is how we can spend our 150m (or whatever it is) to minimalize risk, while still finding our next Botman, Isak or Bruno. Edited May 30, 2023 by Sufi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elbee909 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I just hope something happens early-doors, that's always more reassuring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Predict our first transfer. My money is on Tierney or Maddison. Who do you have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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