TheBrownBottle Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Abacus said: Yup. Gary Jacob in the Times (their London correspondent) saying we're in 'pole position' for Tierney, with Arsenal wanting 'more than' £30m, to help them fund a bid for Rice. Not fussed either way on Tierney, but with this and the McTominay stuff, I really don't think we should be taking unwanted squad players from premier league rivals, especially not if there's a Newcastle tax on them. Arsenal signed Zinchenko and Gabriel Jesus last season from Man City. Unwanted squad players from rivals don't necessarily equal bad signings. Tierney is a really good (if injury prone) LB - and would be an obvious upgrade on what we have already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Might just be my lack of knowledge on left-backs but- injury history aside- I can’t think of a better (realistic) option for us than Tierney. If it’s 30m or less then it’d be a great deal imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Was it injury that cost Tierney his Arsenal place? Seems strange Arsenal went out and bought Zinchenko last summer if they considered Tierney a top class left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, STM said: Really, really unfair lumping Tierney with McTominay and whilst Tierney may be "dispensable" from an Arsenal viewpoint, alot of people would argue that Tierney is actually a better player than Zinchenko, however they are both massively different players. Maybe, and I'm quite happy to be wrong there, but he's certainly disposable to them - only started 6 games last season. It's the fitness issues that would worry me mainly. Aren't we past buying players who are a fitness risk and taking a gamble on them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Was it injury that cost Tierney his Arsenal place? Seems strange Arsenal went out and bought Zinchenko last summer if they considered Tierney a top class left back. I think it was mainly injury, but then Zinchenko came in and became the preferred choice. Which might just be a matter of playing style as STM says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Am I right in thinking Tierney was fit all season this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Obviously a first choice LB is going to be brought in this summer but I'm interested to see what happens with Targett. I'd hope that last season was mostly just a case of Eddie not wanting to mess with a settled back five and that's why Burn kept his place. If Burn is going to stay ahead of him in the LB pecking order then I'd hope we'll move Targett on and get some money back for him. Maybe bring in a youngster that can be brought along as 3rd choice LB until he's ready with Burn covering it until then? If he's going to be second choice LB, Targett is worth keeping. If not, might be someone we can get something decent back for. Personally think he's been really good for us for the most part, wouldn't really hate him starting next season at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SteV said: Am I right in thinking Tierney was fit all season this year? He didnt play, so didnt get injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Someone made a good point recently when they said that due to the wealth of the premier league teams compared to all of the other league in Europe, the top spending teams have little option but to sell to each other. That is why Man City were selling to Arsenal and Chelsea last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 If we take his injuries out of it I don’t think we could sign a better left back this summer. However his injury record is a concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1664935351188586497?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1664935351188586497?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA When is the right time, great N-O Nostradamus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jack27 said: https://twitter.com/plettigoal/status/1664935351188586497?s=46&t=qch8y64njTIa-YpWt4BfqA New thread, I dare you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Just now, Coffee_Johnny said: When is the right time, great N-O Nostradamus? I tried and failed already. Out of my hands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Tierney injury record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: Tierney injury record. So you’re telling me he’s been fit for a year and injuries might be behind him? Sign him up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 He’s an elbow and a wrist away from injuring every major joint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, worthy said: He didnt play, so didnt get injured If the knee surgery has sorted the problem that kept him out previously (no idea whether it was the same issue tbf), then that you could make a case that his injury problems are now behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) On that injury record - that's 3 seasons as Celtic where he missed 42 games, and then 3 at Arsenal where he missed 48. And then barely played last season anyway. You'd guess the reason Burn continued as LB for us even when he was looking wobbly and Target was fit, was that most managers, Howe included, want a settled back line. So, it might be a bit of a risk is all. Edited June 3, 2023 by Abacus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 in terms of LB I would prefer Mitchel Bakker over Tierney - the injury record is a major concern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I’d argue every transfer is a risk tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: I’d argue every transfer is a risk tbf Which is true but Tierney’s injury record doesn’t fill me with much confidence In any case were we not strongly linked with Bakker a while back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jack27 said: I’d argue every transfer is a risk tbf One who's crocked lots would be more a risk than one that has history of not being crocked at the time though. Ability to stay fit and not forever be injured has to be a part of the equation for signing players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: So you’re telling me he’s been fit for a year and injuries might be behind him? Sign him up Two knee injuries in 20/21, followed by surgery in 21/22 so maybe that's fixed the issue. Looks like the worst injury was his shoulder a few years ago, no reoccurrence of it. Hopefully he's over his problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 This is what I mean, our doctors will be fully aware of his injury issues and therefore the risks. I'm fairly sure Shaw (for comparison) had injury issues when younger and he's shrugged them off too. Apparently Tierney is a mentality monster too, so it would be like signing a young Trippier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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