WideopenMag Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 8 hours ago, The Butcher said: Aye, he needs a partner behind him or ahead of him. I think an AM and a proper RW would do him a world of good. We should have went for Paqueta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Rushed back and ran into the ground since being rushed back because we had no other options. this is just the way things have worked out, he needs a proper rest and rehabilitation to get him firing again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Thought he wound the clock back last night and that I was watching Shola Ameobi the way he was disinterestingly ambling around the place. If he's crocked he shouldn't be playing because he's been a waste of a shirt the last few games, and if it's an attitude problem he needs a kick up the arse. There's a lot of them clearly running on empty atm but at least they're still putting the effort in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Thought he wound the clock back last night and that I was watching Shola Ameobi the way he was disinterestingly ambling around the place. If he's crocked he shouldn't be playing because he's been a waste of a shirt the last few games, and if it's an attitude problem he needs a kick up the arse. There's a lot of them clearly running on empty atm but at least they're still putting the effort in. Interesting take Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Thought he wound the clock back last night and that I was watching Shola Ameobi the way he was disinterestingly ambling around the place. If he's crocked he shouldn't be playing because he's been a waste of a shirt the last few games, and if it's an attitude problem he needs a kick up the arse. There's a lot of them clearly running on empty atm but at least they're still putting the effort in. Who would you have played in his place up front in the last few games? I honestly think he's carrying an injury and has been playing out of necessity more than anything. Funnily enough, was watching him do shooting drills at the Gallowgate ahead of Man Utd and he didn't look comfortable, almost grimacing as he hit the ball. Something's not right. Wilson can't be relied on and is looking his age even when he's fit, definitely time to look at another striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Isak is class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Isak is class. No doubt about it, just not recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ikon said: He isn't world class. He has the potential ceiling of being just that. He has always struggled with consistency. Said it once we signed him that he's very up and down in quality. Personally i don't think he will ever be consistent enough to be proper world class. He will have some games of that calibre though. His talent is undoubted. Hope i'm wrong... My thoughts aswell. He had several off days last season too, but we tend to purely remember the best moments. When he's not at his best he usually does nothing. I guess there can be many reasons, but I think he is part of that problem regardless. Edited December 14, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Who would you have played in his place up front in the last few games? I honestly think he's carrying an injury and has been playing out of necessity more than anything. Funnily enough, was watching him do shooting drills at the Gallowgate ahead of Man Utd and he didn't look comfortable, almost grimacing as he hit the ball. Something's not right. Wilson can't be relied on and is looking his age even when he's fit, definitely time to look at another striker. In that case he shouldn't have come on yesterday. If he is injured he's not going to recover by playing. Gordon didn't exactly looked best pleased to be subbed for him and our attacking intensity completely died after the change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) It’s a matter of fitness, he isnt quite there in terms of staying consistent while starting 4/5 games over a 2 week period and not many of our players are currently. With Wilson back he can be utilised well again and rested enough to get the most out of him. Edited December 14, 2023 by Nine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 48 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: In that case he shouldn't have come on yesterday. If he is injured he's not going to recover by playing. Gordon didn't exactly looked best pleased to be subbed for him and our attacking intensity completely died after the change. Gordon was injured and it was a must win game. We literally had no other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, KDT said: Interesting take You spelt "shit" wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Looks to have lost his ability to sprint, so he's either nursing an injury or it's a mental thing. Still think he looked brighter than Wilson last night, but he needs to play centrally, as others have already said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: He has been a bit disappointing of late. But Wilson starting shows what even a half fit Isak brings to the team. May as well have put the statue of Shearer up top in place of Wilson last night. Disagree. Wilson was better than Isak has been in recent weeks. 2 hours ago, Displayname said: The way he just jogged back on their second goal when Milan overwhelmed our defenses really pissed me off. Had only played 20 mins prior. Thats mental, not physical causes. Used to be my favorite, now i dont know. Agreed. Bruno probably more culpable imo. Bruno has fatigue as an excuse but as the #6, he must be aware that he might have to make that challenge at all times. A striker might not realise the jeopardy. But it was very poor aye. I love how cool and composed he is. But at times - he’s far too passive. Doesn’t have that dog in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clintdempsey Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Howe said to Swedish TV that Isak hasn’t been and isn’t 100% fit. They are trying to nurse him back slowly from his last injury and he’s carrying a knock that makes him struggle going full pelt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 And if the main reason for this form is carrying an injury. He should be allowed to properly recover. He’s putting in stinkers anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, jonny1403 said: Gordon was injured and it was a must win game. We literally had no other options. Was Gordon definitely injured? It's hard to tell from up in Level 7 sometimes, but I thought he was still playing well and was our biggest attacking threat. Also didn't look best pleased about being subbed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Trouble we've had is to rest Isak means to play Wilson, but he's been injured. Without Wilson then we'd need to play Gordon up front to cover, so we'd need Barnes to play LW, but he's been injured. Alternatively we could play Joelinton out on LW to cover, but all our other CMs have been injured. Otherwise move Almiron to the left and play Murphy on the right, but Murphy's been injured. Apart from that we're left with Ritchie and Newcastle United fan Lewis Hall, but Howe clearly doesn't fancy them right now. Hopefully he can get a bit of R&R now we're starting to get one or two bodies back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Wallsendmag said: Was Gordon definitely injured? It's hard to tell from up in Level 7 sometimes, but I thought he was still playing well and was our biggest attacking threat. Also didn't look best pleased about being subbed. Tight hamstring so precautionary, hopefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 head turned, wants to join the red & white Barcelona of the North-East. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, clintdempsey said: Howe said to Swedish TV that Isak hasn’t been and isn’t 100% fit. They are trying to nurse him back slowly from his last injury and he’s carrying a knock that makes him struggle going full pelt. Thanks. Explains a lot, and credit to Isak for playing through it in a time of need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said: No doubt about it, just not recently. He went off injured end of October vs. Dortmund and missed an entire month before coming back v. Chelsea. A player not playing anywhere near his best after missing a month and then immediately playing 5 games in little under 2 weeks isn't a cause for concern for me. Since he came back from injury he's been chucked in at the deep end out of desperation. Now Wilson is back (for now) we'll hopefully rotate between the two again and get them both up to speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Was Gordon definitely injured? It's hard to tell from up in Level 7 sometimes, but I thought he was still playing well and was our biggest attacking threat. Also didn't look best pleased about being subbed. Tight hamstring according to Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 He looks like a CF playing on the left. He only offers a fraction of what Gordon does there. But, if he’s got a knock and his fitness is suboptimal then he will look bang ordinary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 Sometimes I think does he actually like playing with Gordon and almiron? I think he was gutted when we sold maxi. Seems to link up better with Murphy too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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