joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 11 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Cos they didn't win either of the legs for starters. Surely they could argue they didn't win because Southampton have been syping on their tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, joeyt said: Surely they could argue they didn't win because Southampton have been syping on their tactics? Difficult to prove mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 5 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: How come Bobby Sands gets to be corporeal but Big Jock doesn’t? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 8 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Difficult to prove mind. Also difficult to prove that Southampton didn't benefit from the spying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, joeyt said: Also difficult to prove that Southampton didn't benefit from the spying Exactly. So easier just to expel them and promote Hull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Exactly. So easier just to expel them and promote Hull. I can't even imagine the legal ramifications of that Certainly not easy at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 38 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Exactly. So easier just to expel them and promote Hull. Also if Southampton have been spying all season then that likely contributed to them getting in the playoffs in the first place so expelling Boro seems incredibly wrong It's an absolute mess. Bet the EFL were desperate for Boro to get through to the final on Tuesday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Southampton manager throwing his toys out the pram and walking out the press conference when asked if he's a cheat. What an unbearable prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 41 minutes ago, joeyt said: Also if Southampton have been spying all season then that likely contributed to them getting in the playoffs in the first place so expelling Boro seems incredibly wrong It's an absolute mess. Bet the EFL were desperate for Boro to get through to the final on Tuesday Again that would be impossible to prove. Southampton gained an unfair advantage, Middlesbrough lost. Only Hull came through the Play Offs unbeaten and should take their place in the Premier League. You're right though they would have been desperate for Boro to win thus saving them all this aggravation Whatever their decision, there's a legal challenge going in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 They won't be cancelling the play off final, it's a money spinner for the EFL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 "While he congratulated Southampton on beating Hull City in the Championship Play-Off Final, Richard Masters noted that in the event of the south coast club being found guilty of spying and handed a sporting sanction, the Premier League proposed that only the top two clubs in last season's Championship, Coventry City and Ipswich Town, be promoted, thus granting 18th-placed Premier League team Tottenham Hotspur a reprieve from relegation. When challenged on this and with the Swindon Town 'precedent' of 1990 specifically put to him, Masters noted that football was only invented in 1992 and that nothing like this had ever happened before." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 36 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: Again that would be impossible to prove. Southampton gained an unfair advantage, Middlesbrough lost. Only Hull came through the Play Offs unbeaten and should take their place in the Premier League. You're right though they would have been desperate for Boro to win thus saving them all this aggravation Whatever their decision, there's a legal challenge going in! It wouldn't be impossible to prove they've been spying all season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: It wouldn't be impossible to prove they've been spying all season It would probably have been flagged up well before now if they had considering it's against the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Wallsendmag said: It would probably have been flagged up well before now if they had considering it's against the rules. There’s suggestions at least two other clubs are going to flag being spied on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) Should have just let the team that finished third over 46games go up, could have saved four boring games and all this fanny on. Anyway enough about 1990, same goes for now. Edited May 15 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 35 minutes ago, Nucasol said: There’s suggestions at least two other clubs are going to flag being spied on. They need to come forward quickly then cos the final is supposed to be in 8 days time. Wonder why they didn't mention it at the time though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 18 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: They need to come forward quickly then cos the final is supposed to be in 8 days time. Wonder why they didn't mention it at the time though? It sounds like because the spy used a credit card to buy a drink at a local hotel there's now a paper trail so they may be able to find he's been in the area of their training ground or check their CCTV which they previously wouldn't have looked into Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 17 minutes ago, joeyt said: It sounds like because the spy used a credit card to buy a drink at a local hotel there's now a paper trail so they may be able to find he's been in the area of their training ground or check their CCTV which they previously wouldn't have looked into I read this somewhere, it was maybe even that Louise Taylor bit the other day, and my first thought was that if Steve Gibson is identifying transactions at Rockliffe Hall and giving out card numbers for said paper trail surely the ICO is going to do him under the Data Protection Act or UK GDPR? I mean, the likely fine would be pennies to Gibson, but the idea of breaking the law like he's some vigilante to try and uncover what Southampton have been up to made me laugh. I assume the EFL couldn't ask for the guy's credit card statement but I could be wrong and have just invented the data breach scenario in my head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Is it just me who couldn’t give a shit about this? Fine em and move on. People going on like they’ve been cutting the brakes off opponents cars. The more important issue is that they’re shafting fans (particularly the ones from Ull) by not confirming what’s going on. They should be shot with shit if they move the date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wolfcastle said: Should have just let the team that finished third over 46games go up, could have saved four boring games and all this fanny on. Anyway enough about 1990, same goes for now. Just have the bottom 3 PL teams face the top 3 EFLC teams. PL 18th v EFLC 1st PL 19th v EFLC 2nd PL 20th v EFLC 3rd. Winner of each respective tie gets the PL spot, loser gets EFLC. Won't happen because less matches equals less TV money. Oh and it's 'unfair' to the EFLC teams who have less resources compared to PL. Better for the 3 EFLC teams to come up, spend a shit load and hope they stay up. Which is fine if it works. But leads to financial ruin when it doesn't. Edited May 15 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 9 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Just have the bottom 3 PL teams face the top 3 EFLC teams. PL 18th v EFLC 1st PL 19th v EFLC 2nd PL 20th v EFLC 3rd. Winner of each respective tie gets the PL spot, loser gets EFLC. Won't happen because less matches equals less TV money. Oh and it's 'unfair' to the EFLC teams who have less resources compared to PL. Better for the 3 EFLC teams to come up, spend a shit load and hope they stay up. Which is fine if it works. But leads to financial ruin when it doesn't. Always thought this, but 20th should play 1st. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 19 minutes ago, Joe_F said: Uptheboro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Dokko said: Always thought this, but 20th should play 1st. Nah the 'best' of the bottom 3 in the PL should play the top team in the EFLC. It's only fair... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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