Heron Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: Any feed back from trust @TheGuv Also @Heron suggestion that wkr flags do a poll on twitter re sace standing? Might push the Trust harder? I'll ask the group, might be a decent shout at some point but have a feeling this may be taken down the more formal route of the trust. Edited January 22, 2023 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Heron said: I'll ask the group, might be a decent shout at some point but have a feeling this may be taken down the more formal route of the trust. Agreed, if the trust push hard enough it will happen, I just worry they have it too far down pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: I think if folk were told their seat was becoming a standing area they would sharp move if they didn’t fancy it. Big opportunity to sort it this summer, if we’ve only got 33k season ticket holders should be plenty of scope to move folk around. You’re spot on though don’t think as fans where much if any better than Man City who have been slated. When SJP gets going it’s loud, but it’s so rare these days, I think even the likes of Old Trafford have areas of constant support these days, so it’s not just the times it is possible to have a good home atmosphere. Agreed give no one a choice. Man Utd was horrendous but improved, got a mate who sits in stretford end and he said effectively club agree to move fans and it has picked up tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: Agreed, if the trust push hard enough it will happen, I just worry they have it too far down pecking order. More than likely in my experience. Problem is we're not a formal enough body to be listened to, we may be able to influence though. Edited January 22, 2023 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Heron said: More than likely in my experience. Problem is where not a formal enough body to be listened to, we may be able to influence though. Would like to think Trust see value in safe standing/singing section. No reason why we couldnt get this sorted in summer if pusjed hard enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, NUFC91 said: Agreed, if the trust push hard enough it will happen, I just worry they have it too far down pecking order. the trust will only back it if the board members are personally in favour but worth a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Heron said: More than likely in my experience. Problem is we're not a formal enough body to be listened to, we may be able to influence though. you will have a lot of influence . Despite the membership numbers the trust have little traction among people I know who have been home and away supporters for years. They all know WF tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, NUFC91 said: Any feed back from trust @TheGuv Also @Heron suggestion that wkr flags do a poll on twitter re sace standing? Might push the Trust harder? Nowt for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Good luck with the campaign - the simple and sad truth is that football atmospheres died with all-seater stadiums, and - no less importantly - the huge price hikes and no ‘on the turnstile’ tickets that followed (somehow clubs missed Lord Justice Taylor’s comments that going all-seater shouldn’t see huge price hikes). This isn’t a recent thing - the atmosphere at SJP has been pap most of the time for nearly 30 years. The change in the demographics of those attending has hit football’s atmosphere hard. No longer do you get huge groups of pissed-up young lads gannin crackers. The whole ground now is what the West and East stand seats used to be - the average age of a match-goer is now mid-40s. Loads of them would have given up going years ago once upon a time. Standing therefore isn’t the magic bullet, to me - but it would be a good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Good luck with the campaign - the simple and sad truth is that football atmospheres died with all-seater stadiums, and - no less importantly - the huge price hikes and no ‘on the turnstile’ tickets that followed (somehow clubs missed Lord Justice Taylor’s comments that going all-seater shouldn’t see huge price hikes). This isn’t a recent thing - the atmosphere at SJP has been pap most of the time for nearly 30 years. The change in the demographics of those attending has hit football’s atmosphere hard. No longer do you get huge groups of pissed-up young lads gannin crackers. The whole ground now is what the West and East stand seats used to be - the average age of a match-goer is now mid-40s. Loads of them would have given up going years ago once upon a time. Standing therefore isn’t the magic bullet, to me - but it would be a good start. Agreed but getting loads of lads in a corner be a start. Also wish boring fuckers would join in and sing. Honestly don't get majority of our fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Update, chased up Trudt, tone of email back was "as i said in previous email" that was from Alex. Said they are going to ask members for ideas. Only ides/option is put 5k in leazes/gallowgate annd open ballot to those who want to sit there. Is there any other options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 i like the idea of level 7 corner and level 4 leazes being safe standing like i sit in level 2 leazes corner and it would improve atmosphere 10fold the only way to do it is to ask those who are interested to apply for safe standing area if xx amount apply then look at the most suitable area for that amount of people, i.e strawb corner or leazes as mentioned above (or both at opposite ends of ground would be good for atmosphere) and go from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I did get a reply. It was in my junk… The Trust will be bringing this up with the club and want to do a survey. Unfortunately, at the present time, it seems the club aren’t keen as it would affect current season ticket holders if they didn’t want to stand. Im sure the Trust will work on this. My response is that historically fans have always been moved for the greater good. The Milburn Paddock springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: I did get a reply. It was in my junk… The Trust will be bringing this up with the club and want to do a survey. Unfortunately, at the present time, it seems the club aren’t keen as it would affect current season ticket holders if they didn’t want to stand. Im sure the Trust will work on this. My response is that historically fans have always been moved for the greater good. The Milburn Paddock springs to mind. Can’t imagine the top brass being concerned, it’ll be the left overs from the Ashley regime who can’t be arsed with the admin hassle of sorting it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 18 hours ago, TheGuv said: I did get a reply. It was in my junk… The Trust will be bringing this up with the club and want to do a survey. Unfortunately, at the present time, it seems the club aren’t keen as it would affect current season ticket holders if they didn’t want to stand. Im sure the Trust will work on this. My response is that historically fans have always been moved for the greater good. The Milburn Paddock springs to mind. Aye they can't be arsed with atmosphere, sure someone at the un understands this is for the good of team not fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Surely Darren Eales will listen ? He said fans opinions are the most important Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 There are alot of fans who don't want standing and they are spread around the ground. so how do you accommodate them. do you force them to move? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Boo Boy said: There are alot of fans who don't want standing and they are spread around the ground. so how do you accommodate them. do you force them to move? Yes. Singing section was disbanded in 2011. Milburn Paddock in 1994. Fans were forced to move then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Boo Boy said: There are alot of fans who don't want standing and they are spread around the ground. so how do you accommodate them. do you force them to move? Suppose they get the option to move otherwise they're going to be in a standing area. I've been delivered an ultimatum on my seat in gallowgate club so the club will do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Boo Boy said: There are alot of fans who don't want standing and they are spread around the ground. so how do you accommodate them. do you force them to move? Yes for the greater good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 A few thousand disgruntled fans or a proper atmosphere ?? easy choice fans will surely get on board with this after spitting dummy out / wobbling zimmer frame in the air Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 42 minutes ago, NE27 said: Suppose they get the option to move otherwise they're going to be in a standing area. I've been delivered an ultimatum on my seat in gallowgate club so the club will do it. what ultimatum? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Cookie1892 said: what ultimatum? To take up a move to a higher priced area before the season started as they want to refit the area I'm in for something else. Didn't take them up and they can't guarantee anything now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just move fans, what thet going to do give up season ticket or move else where. Annoys me so much that fans wouldnt put the team before a fucking seat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I'd love to see the whole of the East stand converted to standing, it could be fucking bouncing. Wonder how many would stay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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