Heron Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Not really too bothered, like most of our squad, he’s been coasting along for at least a year now. It’s a shame because he’s immensely talented and his technical ability is a huge asset (when he shows it). He will go up a level when he’s at a better team. Can you define technical ability please? (That isn't meant to be arsey btw. Just curious...) Cause I completely disagree he is a technically good footballer. His passing and shooting and crossing are all average at best - which are elements that I consider to be technical. Even his dribbling isn't exactly that skillful. His best tools are his acceleration and his penalty taking. Edited April 16 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 hours ago, The Butcher said: Probably signing a new deal then. It's not exactly a secret Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, Ronson333 said: “It seems as though Gordon feels he has outgrown Newcastle and would like a new challenge as well as a large pay rise at a club competing regularly in the Champions League.” seriously he can fuck off, all those champions league goals against Quarbag really could be a blessing for us, when we sell him for a hugely inflated price. Isn't he contracted to 2030? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 For me the real sentiment against his attitude started to appear after Howe made it clear that Gordon was effectively refusing to play on the right, which was said in the most diplomatic way possible. Lack of pressing or workrate could be attributed to instructions but the above is unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, Heron said: Can you define technical ability please? (That isn't meant to be arsey btw. Just curious...) Cause I completely disagree he is a technically good footballer. His passing and shooting and crossing are all average at best - which are elements that I consider to be technical. Even his dribbling isn't exactly that skillful. His best tools are his acceleration and his penalty taking. I can remember that one of the things everyone used to say about Asprilla is that you never knew what he was going to do (KK claimed Tino didn’t know either). With Gordon, he’s as blandly predictable as a half-decent inverted winger can be. Teams actively allow him to cut in on his right, knowing that the inevitably poorly-struck curled effort to the far corner isn’t going to trouble the keeper. The high regard some have for him is an absolute mystery to me - I could name a half a dozen better and more effective LW for NUFC without squeezing a single brain cell for memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HawK said: For me the real sentiment against his attitude started to appear after Howe made it clear that Gordon was effectively refusing to play on the right, which was said in the most diplomatic way possible. Lack of pressing or workrate could be attributed to instructions but the above is unforgivable. Nailed on that Liverpool sign him as a replacement for Salah and right wing is suddenly his favourite position. Edited April 16 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, HawK said: For me the real sentiment against his attitude started to appear after Howe made it clear that Gordon was effectively refusing to play on the right, which was said in the most diplomatic way possible. Lack of pressing or workrate could be attributed to instructions but the above is unforgivable. Howe knew and knows what he's doing when he publicly calls players out, a subtle statement with a loud subtext, see his comments on Mitchell or Wissa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, HawK said: For me the real sentiment against his attitude started to appear after Howe made it clear that Gordon was effectively refusing to play on the right, which was said in the most diplomatic way possible. Lack of pressing or workrate could be attributed to instructions but the above is unforgivable. I think you're right for the most part (as in public opinion) but for me that just sealed it. I had a bad opinion of him starting from that sending off vs Brighton(?) That prevented him playing the cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) I love this “outgrown” narrative players’ camps throw out like he isn’t massively part of our overall issues in general. He turns up in some* big games, can be so bad he can’t control a football or complete a pass, has an inflated goal tally due to penalties, and when you’re level or down in a big match this season rarely has Gordon taken the match by the scruff of the neck and turned 0 or 1 pt to 1 or 3 points. See: Dembele v Liverpool two nights ago. Diaz and Olise last night. If you’re a modern attacking player those are the standards, those are dynamo talisman who change matches just like that. Maybe he was on track to be that player before the Liverpool saga two summers ago, but he’s far from that now. Outgrown? Ha, lots of growing up to do lad. Edited April 16 by Kanj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 12 minutes ago, HawK said: For me the real sentiment against his attitude started to appear after Howe made it clear that Gordon was effectively refusing to play on the right, which was said in the most diplomatic way possible. Lack of pressing or workrate could be attributed to instructions but the above is unforgivable. Have you just made that bit up ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 We are so fucking bad from out wide, I know many on here feel the same. Watch any decent football side today and your wide attackers are basically are the key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejeck Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Has rubbish hair, has rubbish dress sense, and drives a rubbish car. Yes, I'm bitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, Holloway said: Have you just made that bit up ? I don't think Anthony enjoys playing on the right. I think Harvey is a lot more open to it and quite enjoys the freedom that the position gives him with our way of playing. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't play Anthony out there but if a player doesn't really want to play in that position I think it's a difficult one to force a player to do it because I don't think you'll get the same kind of performances. Howe, Edward - 5th Jan 2026 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don't think Anthony enjoys playing on the right. I think Harvey is a lot more open to it and quite enjoys the freedom that the position gives him with our way of playing. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't play Anthony out there but if a player doesn't really want to play in that position I think it's a difficult one to force a player to do it because I don't think you'll get the same kind of performances. Howe, Edward - 5th Jan 2026 This floored me at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: I don't think Anthony enjoys playing on the right. I think Harvey is a lot more open to it and quite enjoys the freedom that the position gives him with our way of playing. Of course, that doesn't mean I can't play Anthony out there but if a player doesn't really want to play in that position I think it's a difficult one to force a player to do it because I don't think you'll get the same kind of performances. Howe, Edward - 5th Jan 2026 Yeah I know, but it's not a refusal is it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Kanj said: We are so fucking bad from out wide, I know many on here feel the same. Watch any decent football side today and your wide attackers are basically are the key. I don’t think Woltemade has necessarily helped himself at times, but fuck me did the lack of Isak expose just how limited our wingers are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Just now, Holloway said: Yeah I know, but it's not a refusal is it ? ‘I can’t force a player’ is pretty much saying that he did for all intents and purposes. Howe kicked him right under the bus on that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Pretty much saying isn't pretty much saying anything. The convo could easily have been ' boss I'll play on the right if you want me there but I'm not happy there and feel I'm more effective wide left or through the middle' It's a bit more plausible than saying 'I'm not playing right wing,end of' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Gordon is a legend in his own mind and the idea that he thinks that he's outgrown the club is hilarious given the state of some of his performances this season. Maybe he's telling on himself a bit if he's admitting that he thinks he's above us because it looks like he picks and chooses which game to turn up for. What is annoying is that he's our best attacker IMO (the bar is low), we're heading into a window where we need to revamp the squad and our front 3 options behind Gordon are Wissa (flop/shite), Woltemade (square peg in round hole), Elanga (braindead coward), Murphy (crap and declining), Barnes (one trick pony and limited) and Osula (unpolished chaos merchant). Our transfer record since 2024 has been woeful and replacing Gordon is yet another position that we absolutely can not afford to fuck up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, Holloway said: Pretty much saying isn't pretty much saying anything. The convo could easily have been ' boss I'll play on the right if you want me there but I'm not happy there and feel I'm more effective wide left or through the middle' It's a bit more plausible than saying 'I'm not playing right wing,end of' That’s a more generous account than mine, I’ll grant you - but I don’t think Howe is the type of manager who lets anything out he doesn’t want out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Genuinely not arsed if he wants to leave. Got 4 years on his contract so should get a good fee for him. just hope the words of Howe desperately wanting to keep Murphy too isn’t true. Need to have a new set of wingers (keeping Elanga and barnes as back up options). Heck I’d even get rid of Elanga while at it. Have 3 new Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: That’s a more generous account than mine, I’ll grant you - but I don’t think Howe is the type of manager who lets anything out he doesn’t want out. Nor do I. But taking that as a refusal to play the position is suitable ammo for the haters.I'm at the stage where I hope he moves on,I don't give a shite about his mental health but he is massively divisive in the fanbase and I think we'll all be better off ( as long as we don't get rinsed ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelofTheFourth Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 With spurs getting relegated I can't see any club being stupid enough to buy him for a price we would want. Hes too old for chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 28 minutes ago, Holloway said: Have you just made that bit up ? No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 minutes ago, HawK said: No The only thing he made clear was that he preferred playing elsewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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