Lewis Miley

[Myleftboot]

28 minutes ago, Steve Charlton said:

Good question in the press conference to Eddie about Miley "Is there a player you'd want want him to study as he develops"
 

I thought of Ballack 

Redondo.

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Ronson333]

31 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said:

Vieira.

Defo got the frame for it… Attacking wise he can be top, defensively is where he needs a bit more development but liked his headers & tackles against Forest.

[80]

28 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Redondo.

Ambrose.

[Lush Vlad]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

The way we play it's going to be hard for any midfielder who isn't the central one to "control a game" whatever that means

 

1 hour ago, Shush said:

 

I was thinking this. We are setup for conceding "control" of the game to press and win turn overs high up pitch, capitalise on forced errors and also counter quickly. The only times we control things from middle is against teams camped in their half doing the low block.

 

It's not the best for countering a physically engaging side wanting to impose on us, especially through the middle, due to a severe lack of athleticism and pace between both centre of defence and centre of midfield. City game or second half of Forest game case and point.

Agree with this and I personally think Miley’s best position and future lies in a more central role. So in our current setup, the 6.
 

Our wider midfielders have a thankless task in some ways. They need a lot of athleticism and often seem to be involved in chaos ball and a lot of off the ball work chasing shadows. Tracking back, pressing high, covering the flanks. All whilst not being used all that much in the build up. 
 

It does seem a really unique position in this system. Which is why Joelinton and Willock (not so much this season) and previously, Longstaff. All worked well as one of our ‘number 8’s’. Whereas I wouldn’t want any of them in a more traditional central two or a deeper role. 
 

Bruno is doing well in some games. But despite all of his running. He is extremely slow and not always the strongest. Although he doesn’t shirk that side of things. 
 

Ironically, Tonali seems to have the attributes to play there. But often got lost and has only really shown his class as the deeper man and in the central role getting involved. 
 

I do wonder as the team continues to evolve. Whether we change the midfield setup at all. As I’m not sure there are many midfielders in world football who could offer both composure and passing ability and the physical attributes Howe wants. Not that we could afford, anyway. 
 

I’m also not sure we will ever have even a semi-consistent control on games otherwise. I know Howe has alluded to a more possession based approach and having more control, previously. 
 

Bit of a wider point on the whole team. But looking at the team Sunday. That second half highlighted how bad we are technically in a lot of areas. Hardly anyone who is going to put their foot on the ball and bring an element of calm to the game.

 

Tonali helped a bit when he came on. But we seemed too far gone by that point. 

[janpawel]

53 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

Agree with this and I personally think Miley’s best position and future lies in a more central role. So in our current setup, the 6.
 

Our wider midfielders have a thankless task in some ways. They need a lot of athleticism and often seem to be involved in chaos ball and a lot of off the ball work chasing shadows. Tracking back, pressing high, covering the flanks. All whilst not being used all that much in the build up. 
 

It does seem a really unique position in this system. Which is why Joelinton and Willock (not so much this season) and previously, Longstaff. All worked well as one of our ‘number 8’s’. Whereas I wouldn’t want any of them in a more traditional central two or a deeper role. 
 

Bruno is doing well in some games. But despite all of his running. He is extremely slow and not always the strongest. Although he doesn’t shirk that side of things. 
 

Ironically, Tonali seems to have the attributes to play there. But often got lost and has only really shown his class as the deeper man and in the central role getting involved. 
 

I do wonder as the team continues to evolve. Whether we change the midfield setup at all. As I’m not sure there are many midfielders in world football who could offer both composure and passing ability and the physical attributes Howe wants. Not that we could afford, anyway. 
 

I’m also not sure we will ever have even a semi-consistent control on games otherwise. I know Howe has alluded to a more possession based approach and having more control, previously. 
 

Bit of a wider point on the whole team. But looking at the team Sunday. That second half highlighted how bad we are technically in a lot of areas. Hardly anyone who is going to put their foot on the ball and bring an element of calm to the game.

 

Tonali helped a bit when he came on. But we seemed too far gone by that point. 

Great post

[Lush Vlad]

46 minutes ago, janpawel said:

Great post

First and last time  

[Steelergol]

3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

Agree with this and I personally think Miley’s best position and future lies in a more central role. So in our current setup, the 6.
 

Our wider midfielders have a thankless task in some ways. They need a lot of athleticism and often seem to be involved in chaos ball and a lot of off the ball work chasing shadows. Tracking back, pressing high, covering the flanks. All whilst not being used all that much in the build up. 
 

It does seem a really unique position in this system. Which is why Joelinton and Willock (not so much this season) and previously, Longstaff. All worked well as one of our ‘number 8’s’. Whereas I wouldn’t want any of them in a more traditional central two or a deeper role. 
 

Bruno is doing well in some games. But despite all of his running. He is extremely slow and not always the strongest. Although he doesn’t shirk that side of things. 
 

Ironically, Tonali seems to have the attributes to play there. But often got lost and has only really shown his class as the deeper man and in the central role getting involved. 
 

I do wonder as the team continues to evolve. Whether we change the midfield setup at all. As I’m not sure there are many midfielders in world football who could offer both composure and passing ability and the physical attributes Howe wants. Not that we could afford, anyway. 
 

I’m also not sure we will ever have even a semi-consistent control on games otherwise. I know Howe has alluded to a more possession based approach and having more control, previously. 
 

Bit of a wider point on the whole team. But looking at the team Sunday. That second half highlighted how bad we are technically in a lot of areas. Hardly anyone who is going to put their foot on the ball and bring an element of calm to the game.

 

Tonali helped a bit when he came on. But we seemed too far gone by that point. 

Liverpool have two midfielders who are absolutely ideal for our system. Pretty certain we weren’t too far behind signing one of them. 

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

Liverpool have two midfielders who are absolutely ideal for our system. Pretty certain we weren’t too far behind signing one of them. 

Szlobberdog? He looks quality now and still young. He went through a bit of a bad patch for them for a while. Would have loved him here. 

[Rod]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

Szlobberdog? He looks quality now and still young. He went through a bit of a bad patch for them for a while. Would have loved him here. 

I thought the same and Gravenbeech (spelling).  Would be ideal for the Toon.

[Dr Venkman]

19 hours ago, mosstef said:

He's massive. Looks like someone put a childs face on a fullgrown muscular male body.

[Pilko]

Needs to start again on Sunday, he didn't deserve to be left out tonight.

[Andy]

Of all of our midfielders he always feels like he's the least likely to lose it under pressure, which is pretty damning on the others given the age difference. 

[TRon]

Should have played from the start tonight, his age is counting against him.

[OoOGazOoO]

Tonali shouldn't have come back in at the expense of Miley tonight, should have been Willock if anyone.

[Alberto2005]

Time to start giving this lad a proper run, I wouldn't be against him starting in the final even though it's guaranteed to be Big Joe, Bruno and Sandro.

[Newcastle Fan]

I wanted to see him start tonight, the three who started offered nothing.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Alberto2005 said:

Time to start giving this lad a proper run, I wouldn't be against him starting in the final even though it's guaranteed to be Big Joe, Bruno and Sandro.

 

Should definitely start the final if Joelinton isn't fully ready. 

[David Edgar]

The boy his passes with near perfect weighting off both feet.

[Smal]

yep, think it has to be him, Tonali and Bruno atm. Ideally Bruno would get a rest but not sure Willock has done enough and Longstaff is not an option.