Yankuba Minteh

[gbandit]

Just now, joeyt said:

Pretty frustrated and disappointed in this

Indeed. We’ll obviously have to wait and see where things stand at the end of the window but selling a talent that’s admired by some huge clubs when we don’t even have a RW of any decent quality in the squad is extremely frustrating. I can understand the reasons for it, we’re obviously massively struggling to sell our weaker players. However, the whole thing feels very backwards at the moment 

[Abacus]

If he goes, I assume it's an FFP/PSR thing. Particularly if he goes to Everton, as was rumoured in the DCL thread and we end up getting him back in return.

 

I jokingly said that kind of deal might happen between clubs at their limit in the FFP thread. But anyway I don't suppose it matters too much where he ends up if the monetary outcome is the same.

 

It'd be a huge shame if he has a real chance of making it obviously, especially if it was going to be with us.

 

On the other hand, I'd console myself with this. Either, we've been watching his development while he's on loan and perhaps we don't think he fits our team or the PL.

 

Or, maybe we think he could make it with the right coaching but still have to sell him anyway for FFP reasons. In that case, at least there's the silver lining that we don't have to sell one of our established stars instead.

 

I guess we'll know which of those it is if he gets sold before or after 30 June. 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

1 hour ago, Zero said:

 

If we need to sell Minteh before the June deadline due to PSR, and we won’t have Europe football next season, why would people got their hopes up that we could spend big on someone this summer? We are already in the PSR red zone.

Because a large proportion of outlay/loss incurred during Ashley's last summer and our First January window drops off from the 3 year rolling  period, plus the club is expected to announce multiple new sponsorships relating to training kit etc?

 

this stuff has been talked to death since the takeover, why do some still not get how it works?

[TRon]

There's only one way to look at this for me. Why am I looking at headlines about selling Minteh and not Almiron this morning?

 

Fuck that shit.

[joeyt]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

There's only one way to look at this for me. Why am I looking at headlines about selling Minteh and not Almiron this morning?

 

Fuck that shit.

 

No one wants Almiron for the money we can get for Minteh?

[TRon]

Just now, joeyt said:

 

No one wants Almiron for the money we can get for Minteh?

 

I'll take half of what we can get for Minteh. Let's not be unreasonable.

[The Prophet]

If Almiron's move to Saudi had materialised in January, we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.

[The Prophet]

Just now, TRon said:

 

I'll take half of what we can get for Minteh. Let's not be unreasonable.

 

It might not be enough to balance the books though.

[Menace]

Pretty frustrating we have to sell a kid who seems to have huge talent in a position we desperately need an upgrade on, but here we are. Still, at least we don't have to sell hotels eh

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

It might not be enough to balance the books though.

Then those in charge have done a poor job. Surely can’t be going into the last week needing a minimum 30 million to not break the rules.

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

It might not be enough to balance the books though.

 

That doesn't make it any less shit though.

[gbandit]

How much has getting knocked out of the groups in the CL fucked us here? I never know what the accountancy periods are but is that one of the reasons we’re in trouble?

[Novocastrian]

2 hours ago, Gawalls said:

Every single article that says we’re selling him states we don’t want to but need to for PSR, just wondering - what’s baffling you?

His performances in the Eredivisie would suggest, at the very least, we take a closer look at him before making any decision on his future. There’s at least half’ a dozen ‘saleable’ assets that I’d sell to generate income first. Finally the players we are being linked with seem like squad fillers and not the ready made first 11 improvements we need. Yes I know it’s early in the window and the club doesn’t want to show its hand too early. If we are going to let a player of his profile go (we aren’t Chelsea and we don’t have multiple young starlets) let’s hope we are bringing in a Chiesa or someone who will take us to the next level.

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Then those in charge have done a poor job. Surely can’t be going into the last week needing a minimum 30 million to not break the rules.

 

It's odd that both us and Villa, who are otherwise well ran clubs, have fallen foul. 

 

It's probably a combination of not getting the sales they thought they would in January or not being able to lobby for the rule changes they expected, as selling Minteh seems like a least resort.

 

Either way, them having to sell Luiz and us Minteh shows how the regulations strangles ambious clubs.

[The Prophet]

2 minutes ago, Novocastrian said:

His performances in the Eredivisie would suggest, at the very least, we take a closer look at him before making any decision on his future. There’s at least half’ a dozen ‘saleable’ assets that I’d sell to generate income first. Finally the players we are being linked with seem like squad fillers and not the ready made first 11 improvements we need. Yes I know it’s early in the window and the club doesn’t want to show its hand too early. If we are going to let a player of his profile go (we aren’t Chelsea and we don’t have multiple young starlets) let’s hope we are bringing in a Chiesa or someone who will take us to the next level.

 

Yes, but you need buyers for those saleable assets prior to 30 June.

[RS]

Feels like he was always a FFP pawn. Hideous that this flawed system has led to standard operating practices of this kind. 

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

It's odd that both us and Villa, who are otherwise well ran clubs, have fallen foul. 

 

It's probably a combination of not getting the sales they thought they would in January or not being able to lobby for the rule changes they expected, as selling Minteh seems like a least resort.

 

Either way, them having to sell Luiz and us Minteh shows how the regulations strangles ambious clubs.

We should have taken the Bayern bid for Trippier in January in hindsight.

[TRon]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

We should have taken the Bayern bid for Trippier in January in hindsight.

 

It's not really hindsight, I said we should have took it in January.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, TRon said:

 

It's not really hindsight, I said we should have took it in January.

Aye me too, I meant from the club.

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

Yes, but you need buyers for those saleable assets prior to 30 June.

Don’t - I’ve been saying it all weekend and it just gets constantly ignored.

[Gawalls]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

We should have taken the Bayern bid for Trippier in January in hindsight.

If we’d sold tripps in Jan and never had that hindsight then these conversations would have happened in the tripps thread.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

Don’t - I’ve been saying it all weekend and it just gets constantly ignored.

Longstaff

Anderson

Trippier

Murphy

 

All possible options imo.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Then those in charge have done a poor job. Surely can’t be going into the last week needing a minimum 30 million to not break the rules.

How do we know that this is actually the case? Has this kid actually sold yet? I mean there’s putting 2&2 together and coming up with 5, and then there’s whatever the hell large portions of this thread consist of.

 

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

If we’d sold tripps in Jan and never had that hindsight then these conversations would have happened in the tripps thread.

I think quite a few were open to selling in January in fairness. The overall feeling was it was the best time to sell and we had to become good sellers to succeed.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

How do we know that this is actually the case? Has this kid actually sold yet? I mean there’s putting 2&2 together and coming up with 5, and then there’s whatever the hell large portions of this thread consist of.

 

I think it’s fairly well reported we need to sell by then end of the week.