Sandro Tonali: charged by FA after alleged betting breaches / unlikely to serve additional ban (Hope)

[LiquidAK]

1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I mean, you’d hope so (allowing for it being a diagnosed addiction).  But I also don’t think they had a choice with Tonali.

So you agree if Dummett or Ritchie got embroiled in the same situation as current employees of the club, and therefore the club would have no choice but to get involved, that they'd likely back them?

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, LiquidAK said:

So you agree if Dummett or Ritchie got embroiled in the same situation as current employees of the club, and therefore the club would have no choice but to get involved, that they'd likely back them?

I think that if it was found that they were betting on football and landed a ten month ban the club would look to sack them - while providing support services

 

I also think that there’s a good chance that the owners are furious re the Tonali situation

[TheBrownBottle]

3 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

No choice. 5 year contract and just purchased. WTF was the other choice? Sell low or release on a free?

Yep, that’s the point I’m making.  They had no choice other than the response that they had, unless they wanted to flush a massive investment down the toilet. 

[LiquidAK]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I think that if it was found that they were betting on football and landed a ten month ban the club would look to sack them - while providing support services

 

I also think that there’s a good chance that the owners are furious re the Tonali situation

Thanks for clarifying that you're basing this on vibes - I think you don't have a clue given everything that's come out of the club since this broke.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, LiquidAK said:

Thanks for clarifying that you're basing this on vibes - I think you don't have a clue given everything that's come out of the club since this broke.

Of course - I’m not pretending to be ‘ITK’.  And I also don’t think any football club would come out and throw mud at their player, either.

 

There were stories in the press that the owners were unhappy and were investigating how we didn’t pick up on Tonali’s activities.  Again, could all be newspaper shite and a tissue of lies.

 

And neither of us know whether or not the lad is an addict or not.  Gambling addiction is fucking horrible, and it ruined my dad’s and my aunt’s childhood - and if Tonali is, I hope he gets all the help and support he needs to control and overcome it.  But that doesn’t mean that he’d be immune from criticism even if he actually is an addict.  

[LiquidAK]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Of course - I’m not pretending to be ‘ITK’.  And I also don’t think any football club would come out and throw mud at their player, either.

 

There were stories in the press that the owners were unhappy and were investigating how we didn’t pick up on Tonali’s activities.  Again, could all be newspaper shite and a tissue of lies.

 

And neither of us know whether or not the lad is an addict or not.  Gambling addiction is fucking horrible, and it ruined my dad’s and my aunt’s childhood - and if Tonali is, I hope he gets all the help and support he needs to control and overcome it.  But that doesn’t mean that he’d be immune from criticism even if he actually is an addict.  

So how about we trust the people who actually have a clue, i.e., Howe and the other senior people at the club who are backing him, and back the 23-year-old.

[TheBrownBottle]

14 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

So how about we trust the people who actually have a clue, i.e., Howe and the other senior people at the club who are backing him, and back the 23-year-old.

Yeah, fair enough.  I still think there is criticism of Tonali which is perfectly justifiable.  

[janpawel]

Seriously can't wait to see him play for us, especially after 10 months where he hopefully learns English and has time to bed in like Gordon did between Jan and Aug

 

Some of his 1 touch play was great in the games he played, sure he will be something unique to add to our midfield 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

11 hours ago, Beth said:

I honestly think that's the only reason he would care if we won or lost.

You’re normally so nuanced.

[Myleftboot]

1 hour ago, janpawel said:

Seriously can't wait to see him play for us, especially after 10 months where he hopefully learns English and has time to bed in like Gordon did between Jan and Aug

 

Some of his 1 touch play was great in the games he played, sure he will be something unique to add to our midfield 

Watched the extended highlights of the opening game against Villa this morning. He had a blinder.

[Menace]

Been watching some videos of him lately, imagine how immense he will be and how eager to go for next season. This is just a small blip into a colossal signing.

[Justdoesit]

16 minutes ago, Menace said:

Been watching some videos of him lately, imagine how immense he will be and how eager to go for next season. This is just a small blip into a colossal signing.

Agreed - imagine having him, Bruno, Joe, Willock, Longstaff etc. training alongside (and competing with) young Miley.  

 

Very pleased he has remained around the set up. I reckon it will end up being Sandro, Bruno and Miley somewhere near the middle of the park.

[CheikBoom]

Caught up with Dan Burn Fozcast episode yesterday and he touched out how Sandro can speak really good English these days. Hopefully this will help him settled into the area during his ban and immerse himself in the team / understand our tactical approach.

[Solitude20]

Is there a possibility if this 10 month can be reduced to just like 3 months instead? Things like good conduct could reduce charges or something? It would be good if he could play the second half of the season, thank you. 

[TheBrownBottle]

17 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Is there a possibility if this 10 month can be reduced to just like 3 months instead? Things like good conduct could reduce charges or something? It would be good if he could play the second half of the season, thank you. 

Nope

[The Bonk]

41 minutes ago, Solitude20 said:

Is there a possibility if this 10 month can be reduced to just like 3 months instead? Things like good conduct could reduce charges or something? It would be good if he could play the second half of the season, thank you. 

I respect 🫡 your hopium here, good sir. 

[BlueStar]

Made the cover of the Match of the Day annual, not sure if that just shows how early they print these things

 

 

[The College Dropout]

The allegations were the first domino in our crisis.  
 

Then it was the Barnes injury. Botman injury same game iirc but it sounded precautionary at first.  
 

Then the bad news kept rolling. 

[Pancrate1892]

The good news is that he's fit and ready to go 

[huss9]

xmas in dubai ffs.

[MrRaspberryJam]

31 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

The good news is that he's fit and ready to go 

That’s only bad news and irrelevant news. 

[sempuki]

9 minutes ago, huss9 said:

xmas in dubai ffs.

Is he on a full wage? 

[huss9]

3 minutes ago, sempuki said:

Is he on a full wage? 

he  must be by the way she's clinging on to him.

[ryanegg]

16 minutes ago, huss9 said:

xmas in dubai ffs.

If he’s not on full wages, I couldn’t care less where he goes if he can’t play atm. It’s surely been approved by the club anyway.

[duo]

35 minutes ago, sempuki said:

Is he on a full wage? 

Utter daft if he is - poor form going on a jolly whilst rest of team is grafting.