Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted Tuesday at 14:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:53 2 minutes ago, joeyt said: Us outrunning or outpressing teams isn't working anymore, We don't play like that anymore by choice I think is more the reason. Howe wants us to have the ball more, rather than be happy for the opposition to have it in their half and us win it back with high pressing. Last year the press was being bemoaned as we had a huge injury crisis which the running and pressing was being pointed at for being the cause. And apparently it wasn't Isak's game and we were wasting him (kind of agree). We're trying to be a possession based side now and creating chances of of own, rather than stealing them off the opposition. Right way to go imo, not working atm though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 14:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:53 Just now, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: We don't play like that anymore by choice I think is more the reason. Howe wants us to have the ball more, rather than be happy for the opposition to have it in their half and us win it back with high pressing. Last year the press was being bemoaned as we had a huge injury crisis which the running and pressing was being pointed at for being the cause. And apparently it wasn't Isak's game and we were wasting him (kind of agree). We're trying to be a possession based side now and creating chances of of own, rather than stealing them off the opposition. Right way to go imo, not working atm though. I don't think we have the players capable of keeping hold of the ball more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 14:54 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:54 Just now, Shearergol said: I don't think we have the players capable of keeping hold of the ball more. Mostly we do, we just have to put out a side with a couple of glaring weak links at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 14:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:56 Just now, Shearergol said: I don't think we have the players capable of keeping hold of the ball more. We did try it early on in the season and ended up with 40% possession stats or something. Most of our players are hopeless when some pressure is applied. We are playing nicer football now, but it's leaving us wide open when we do lose it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted Tuesday at 14:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:56 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I don't think we have the players capable of keeping hold of the ball more. Think I agree. Tonali was definitely bought with this change in mind, though. I think him on the right of the 3 kills what is being tried a little, though. He has to be more central to our play if we're going to do that as Bruno is too erratic. I just think the midfield needs a bit of a move around, personally. Would love to see Bruno replace Longstaff on that right hand side and Tonali move in to the central role, especially at Home or "easier" away games. Joe L or Joe W on the other side as appropriate. Edited Tuesday at 14:57 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 14:56 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:56 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Mostly we do, we just have to put out a side with a couple of glaring weak links at the moment. Good post in the Howe thread showing the stats on this.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 14:59 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:59 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Good post in the Howe thread showing the stats on this.... Yep I’ve seen, I agree we give the ball away a lot. But I think we have mostly decent players. Like I’ve said before, our squad is a combination of Championship and Champions League. The problem is right now we always have a couple of error-prone players in the team and the others have low confidence. Edited Tuesday at 15:00 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Tuesday at 15:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:00 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Separately to the 'do we or don't we need a 10' debate, you're listing teams who have much less in the way of restrictions and a far greater margin for error when it comes to transfers. Comparisons to City, Arsenal and Liverpool is pointless at the best of times, they're so far ahead of everyone else in every metric. I accept that but I believe that the squad has the ingredients to make changes. The squad isn't in amazing shape but I don't believe it's a mess. We have higher revenues than Aston Villa. The PSR cost of Rogers, Tielemans, Kamara, McGinn, Ramsey, Onana is comparable to what we have in those positions. Brighton have Joao Pedro & Rutter in those positions. Brighton even have the luxury of loaning out Facundo Buonanotte in that role. I can blame PSR for not having a RW or CB. But not having a creative midfielder is a choice the people responsible for squad building have made. Lots of us have been screaming this for over a year and we are barely ever linked to players of that profile. JP is one (but that was more as a striker) and Szob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 15:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:03 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Yep I’ve seen, I agree we give the ball away a lot. But I think we have mostly decent players. Like I’ve said before, our squad is a combination of Championship and Champions League. The problem is right now we always have a couple of error-prone players in the team and the others have low confidence. We've got some great players. But none of them are particularly geared up to hold onto the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Tuesday at 15:04 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:04 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I don't think we have the players capable of keeping hold of the ball more. Couldn't agree more. I said it last summer - we double down on pressing, direct football in that transfer window. Tonali & Barnes signings in particular. 2 direct and athletic lads. Reupped Joelinton who is similar. Only player to add significant ball playing prowess the team is Hall and he's a kid. Edited Tuesday at 15:05 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Tuesday at 15:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:08 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: We've got some great players. But none of them are particularly geared up to hold onto the ball. Schar, Hall, Botman, Bruno, AG keeps the ball pretty well. But that’s it. In the entire squad. The rest are best on the transition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted Tuesday at 15:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:10 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Couldn't agree more. I said it last summer - we double down on pressing, direct football in that transfer window. Tonali & Barnes signings in particular. 2 direct and athletic lads. Reupped Joelinton who is similar. Only player to add significant ball playing prowess the team is Hall and he's a kid. I agree and it's ashame we've done it tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 15:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:11 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Schar, Hall, Botman, Bruno, AG keeps the ball pretty well. But that’s it. In the entire squad. The rest are best on the transition. Joelinton is probably in the next tier, and he's a former striker playing midfield. That is quite telling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted Tuesday at 18:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:06 Could Tonali play on the right of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Tuesday at 18:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:19 11 minutes ago, Nepharite said: Could Tonali play on the right of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1? If we tried that I can't imagine Tonali wouldn't be part of the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted Tuesday at 21:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:02 2 hours ago, Nepharite said: Could Tonali play on the right of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1? Why would you want him to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 17 hours ago, janpawel said: Why would you want him to? Hardest shot at the club, allegedly. Creativity further up the pitch, pace, crossing ability. Just some positives IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I know we say this every match but this dude's first time passing is something else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Class in that central position tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) Sandro Olè olè olè Edited 14 hours ago by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Superb a part from that ball miss first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Fantastic performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Aiston said: Fantastic performance. I didn't think it was that but it was a lot better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Tonali benefitted from Bruno not playing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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