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24 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Joao Pedro, Elanga, Guehi and Trafford is an incredibly expensive quartet of players. That's £180M roughly spent right there. Absolutely no way on earth we are doing that in one window. I could see two of those coming in absolutely but not all four. 

 

Even selling Willock, Longstaff and Pope (£40M at best between those three) wouldn't cover it, because then we'd need to sign another two CMs anyway. 

Possible if we make a big sale (Gordon).

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Just now, Mazzy said:

Joao Pedro, Elanga, Guehi and Trafford is an incredibly expensive quartet of players. That's £180M roughly spent right there. Absolutely no way on earth we are doing that in one window. I could see two of those coming in absolutely but not all four. 

 

Even selling Willock, Longstaff and Pope (£40M at best between those three) wouldn't cover it, because then we'd need to sign another two CMs anyway. 

This is the problem. Even if we did sign those 4 players, hamstringing ourselves in future windows, how much better is our team? Considering our revenue and PSR, we need a scouting system as good as operations like Monaco, Red Bull, Brighton, Brentford etc. 50-60mil signings for players who don't immediately make us much stronger is nuts.

Realistically we need- 

a first team RW,

a first team ready 8/10 that offers attacking technique, pace and link up with Bruno/Tonali for those games where we endlessly turn the ball over and have no threat from the middle

a fast center back

a forward good enough to replace Isak, maybe with some different qualities

Also- Goalie with more composure, better passing, who can replace Pope either now or later.

-Midfield depth, could do with a mix of an established, decent physical player happy with squad role and young talent who can in time fill in for Bruno or Tonali

Lastly- youth with the potential to be first 11 eventually. 

 

Malanga/Pedro aren't top tier players. We don't cement our place unless we get those types young, coach them and they fill our squad in future. I'd like us to fill our squad out with as much value as possible and keep the big money for lads who absolutely justify it, Isak, Bruno, Gordons, lads that Madrid, City would spend an arm and a leg because they'd improve that 11. 

 

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26 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Joao Pedro, Elanga, Guehi and Trafford is an incredibly expensive quartet of players. That's £180M roughly spent right there. Absolutely no way on earth we are doing that in one window. I could see two of those coming in absolutely but not all four. 

 

Even selling Willock, Longstaff and Pope (£40M at best between those three) wouldn't cover it, because then we'd need to sign another two CMs anyway. 

We dont need to sell now, can wait until January/the end of the season. 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Possible if we make a big sale (Gordon).

 

Yes Gordon would probably be the only one of that lot who could be sold for a good chunk and we wouldn't have to immediately replace him if those four did come in. I think we'd have just about enough, wouldn't be ideal though.

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Just now, wong989 said:

Like Chalobah, versatile as well

 

Feels like the kind of player who will never be a guaranteed first team starter at any top club, but would always be on the bench because he's reliable and versatile. Exactly the kind of player we need tbh. Chelsea would ask way too much for him though.

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1 minute ago, Mazzy said:

 

Yes Gordon would probably be the only one of that lot who could be sold for a good chunk and we wouldn't have to immediately replace him if those four did come in. I think we'd have just about enough, wouldn't be ideal though.

We will have more than enough if we sell Gordon for £70-80m. Thats something like £50m in profit. 

Amortization on purchases of £180m would just be £35m this season. Have to add in extra contract costs ofc, but we already have some leeway after getting rid of that 22/23 season.

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4 minutes ago, Displayname said:

We will have more than enough if we sell Gordon for £70-80m. Thats something like £50m in profit. 

Amortization on purchases of £180m would just be £35m this season. Have to add in extra contract costs ofc, but we already have some leeway after getting rid of that 22/23 season.

Its a shame that situation. Felt like after the previous season he was a 100m player. Grealish Rice, you couldn't say he wasn't as influential and dicisive, same age, English...but after this season, thats taken a hit. Hope he pulls it together if Wirtz joins Liverpool, hasn't looked settled or happy this year at all to me

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Pedro, Elanga and Guehi although it may seem far to straightforward it would represent an incredible window. Very clean, big upgrades and a massive addition of depth.

 

Pedro alone changes our side. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Nine said:

Pedro, Elanga and Guehi although seems far to straightforward would represent an incredible window. Very clean, big upgrades and massive add of depth.

 

Pedro alone changes our side. 

I'd be buzzing like a crack whore with that.

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If possible I’d like to see us get rid of Willock and Longstaff and bring in about 30m. Go for Fernandes from Southampton and we should still be better off financiallly. Might not be as easy as that but yeah, not impossible. 

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1 hour ago, wong989 said:

This is the problem. Even if we did sign those 4 players, hamstringing ourselves in future windows, how much better is our team? Considering our revenue and PSR, we need a scouting system as good as operations like Monaco, Red Bull, Brighton, Brentford etc. 50-60mil signings for players who don't immediately make us much stronger is nuts.

Realistically we need- 

a first team RW,

a first team ready 8/10 that offers attacking technique, pace and link up with Bruno/Tonali for those games where we endlessly turn the ball over and have no threat from the middle

a fast center back

a forward good enough to replace Isak, maybe with some different qualities

Also- Goalie with more composure, better passing, who can replace Pope either now or later.

-Midfield depth, could do with a mix of an established, decent physical player happy with squad role and young talent who can in time fill in for Bruno or Tonali

Lastly- youth with the potential to be first 11 eventually. 

 

Malanga/Pedro aren't top tier players. We don't cement our place unless we get those types young, coach them and they fill our squad in future. I'd like us to fill our squad out with as much value as possible and keep the big money for lads who absolutely justify it, Isak, Bruno, Gordons, lads that Madrid, City would spend an arm and a leg because they'd improve that 11. 

 

Gordon would improve Madrid. You seriously believe that?

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2 hours ago, MagPar said:

Gordon would improve Madrid. You seriously believe that?

No, I'm generalizing. He'd have improved most top clubs in England last year had he been sold in the summer. Either way, I'm talking about the idea of signing a player with potential for a relatively low fee, who after time to adapt to our system and improve certain aspects can play a role in our team and becomes good enough to start for ESL sides a la Caceido, Mane, Wijnaldum, Mahrez, not to mention all the ESL cast offs like Rice, Palmer, Rogers etc

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