NUFC Transfer Rumours

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, Paully said:

From the Athletic - another Keeper?! I'm certain Dubs will go but we still have four if he does go!

 

 

What positions/players are they looking at?

 

A centre-back and a right-winger are Howe’s priorities while recruiting another goalkeeper is under consideration. Callum Wilson’s back injury increases the need for another forward, given Alexander Isak is the only fit front man — though any striker being brought in may first depend on the England international leaving.

 

Howe, Mitchell and Eales are unified in their desire to prioritise quality over quantity, with most additions intended to improve the first XI.

Newcastle want a right-sided centre-back and Milan’s Thiaw, a 22-year-old Germany international, and Nice’s Jean-Clair Todibo are among those tracked.

 

Howe has been keen to bolster Newcastle’s right wing for several windows, with a significant portion of their budget expected to be spent on that position. Having missed out on top target Michael Olise to Bayern Munich, despite meeting his Crystal Palace release clause, Newcastle retain an interest in Nottingham Forest’s Anthony Elanga, while Noni Madueke of Chelsea has been discussed and Fiorentina’s Gonzalez has been watched.

 

Everton’s Dominic Calvert-Lewin had been a striker target but, after a deal with Everton collapsed last month, Newcastle turned their attention to others. Lille’s Jonathan David has been watched for a long time.

 

Which players could be leaving?

 

Despite managing to comply with PSR by June 30, Mitchell is still looking to reduce their wage bill and the average age of their squad, so further senior players are expected to depart.

 

Kieran Trippier, who is into the final year of his contract, has fielded interest from the Saudi Pro League but no firm offer has arrived. The 33-year-old was photographed at Newcastle Airport on Friday, fuelling rumours of an imminent exit, but he was heading away to Dubai as he has been afforded an extended break after reaching the Euro 2024 final with England. Trippier posted a photo on Instagram over the weekend alongside Tom Spring, Al Ettifaq’s chief scout, with the caption “good meeting”, which has sparked further speculation.

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Miguel Almiron and Martin Dubravka have rejoined the squad, but both can leave for the right price, while Emil Krafth is into the final year of his deal and an exit has been explored. Wilson’s injury complicates any potential exit, but the 32-year-old has less than 12 months remaining on his contract.

 

Newcastle hope to offload Jamal Lewis and Ryan Fraser, with the latter having agreed a deal with Southampton, though the details must be finalised with his club. While Lewis played in Newcastle’s friendlies against SpVgg Unterhaching and Hull City, Fraser remains banished from first-team training and Southampton manager Russell Martin has indicated that the deal needs to progress soon, otherwise they will move on to other targets. Isaac Hayden is also available for transfer.

 

Bruno Guimaraes’ £100million release clause expired in June and Newcastle are keen to keep hold of the Brazil midfielder, although Manchester City have tracked him, while they have no intention of selling Alexander Isak.

 

Howe is hopeful Anthony Gordon will stay, despite internal fears that his head was turned by an awareness of Liverpool’s interest.

You could copy paste the majority of that from what The Athletic were saying two months ago. We’re keeping the ship nice and tight, nothing getting out by way of leaks. The journos are truly in the dark this summer.

[PauloGeordio]

Howe said: "I am always reluctant to comment but he is a player that I know about. I remember him from our games against AC Milan from the Champions League. But that is it really."
 

Thiaw incoming…….

[tarie4]

30 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

Perhaps read this post by timeEd32, then read TCD’s post again. Long story short, we can’t afford 60m Guler without sorting the financial deficit it would create further down the line later this season, before the 2025 PSR deadline.

Interesting, very interesting.

 

"The good news is that £70m now drops off going into the new cycle so we have got that chance to know what our available headroom is."

 

Any thoughts what that might be?

 

 

Edited July 31 by tarie4

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

If this isn’t bollocks, then perhaps all of the talk of the Anderson and Minteh funds being absorbed into PSR deficit, was bollocks, i.e. a top class deflection re the size of our war chest.
 

 

 

 

We can’t deflect or lie about the funding available, the club’s accounts are a matter of public record and we know the PSR rules.

[SUPERTOON]

26 minutes ago, Paully said:

From the Athletic - another Keeper?! I'm certain Dubs will go but we still have four if he does go!

 

 

What positions/players are they looking at?

 

A centre-back and a right-winger are Howe’s priorities while recruiting another goalkeeper is under consideration. Callum Wilson’s back injury increases the need for another forward, given Alexander Isak is the only fit front man — though any striker being brought in may first depend on the England international leaving.

 

Howe, Mitchell and Eales are unified in their desire to prioritise quality over quantity, with most additions intended to improve the first XI.

Newcastle want a right-sided centre-back and Milan’s Thiaw, a 22-year-old Germany international, and Nice’s Jean-Clair Todibo are among those tracked.

 

Howe has been keen to bolster Newcastle’s right wing for several windows, with a significant portion of their budget expected to be spent on that position. Having missed out on top target Michael Olise to Bayern Munich, despite meeting his Crystal Palace release clause, Newcastle retain an interest in Nottingham Forest’s Anthony Elanga, while Noni Madueke of Chelsea has been discussed and Fiorentina’s Gonzalez has been watched.

 

Everton’s Dominic Calvert-Lewin had been a striker target but, after a deal with Everton collapsed last month, Newcastle turned their attention to others. Lille’s Jonathan David has been watched for a long time.

 

Which players could be leaving?

 

Despite managing to comply with PSR by June 30, Mitchell is still looking to reduce their wage bill and the average age of their squad, so further senior players are expected to depart.

 

Kieran Trippier, who is into the final year of his contract, has fielded interest from the Saudi Pro League but no firm offer has arrived. The 33-year-old was photographed at Newcastle Airport on Friday, fuelling rumours of an imminent exit, but he was heading away to Dubai as he has been afforded an extended break after reaching the Euro 2024 final with England. Trippier posted a photo on Instagram over the weekend alongside Tom Spring, Al Ettifaq’s chief scout, with the caption “good meeting”, which has sparked further speculation.

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Miguel Almiron and Martin Dubravka have rejoined the squad, but both can leave for the right price, while Emil Krafth is into the final year of his deal and an exit has been explored. Wilson’s injury complicates any potential exit, but the 32-year-old has less than 12 months remaining on his contract.

 

Newcastle hope to offload Jamal Lewis and Ryan Fraser, with the latter having agreed a deal with Southampton, though the details must be finalised with his club. While Lewis played in Newcastle’s friendlies against SpVgg Unterhaching and Hull City, Fraser remains banished from first-team training and Southampton manager Russell Martin has indicated that the deal needs to progress soon, otherwise they will move on to other targets. Isaac Hayden is also available for transfer.

 

Bruno Guimaraes’ £100million release clause expired in June and Newcastle are keen to keep hold of the Brazil midfielder, although Manchester City have tracked him, while they have no intention of selling Alexander Isak.

 

Howe is hopeful Anthony Gordon will stay, despite internal fears that his head was turned by an awareness of Liverpool’s interest.

Is that from Waugh? He has literally wrote the exact same article about 5 times already this window.

[r0cafella]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Is that from Waugh? He has literally wrote the exact same article about 5 times already this window.

Aye it’s Waugh with his weekly copy and paste job. 

[r0cafella]

And to add on, they have so many things they could be writing about and investigating but nah, weekly none update it is.

[Coffee_Johnny]

16 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

We can’t deflect or lie about the funding available, the club’s accounts are a matter of public record and we know the PSR rules.

Well, you could be right. In that maybe the real implications of current accounts are transparent to some people. Still seems open to interpretation to me/most.

[WilliamPS]

The PSR question has been answered many times in this thread. It’s a rolling 3 year period in which max losses are 105m. The club had a crunch at the end of 23/24 to comply for years 21/22, 22/23 and23/24 and had to flog Anderson and Minteh to make it.

In 21/22 the club made a big loss of 70m, that now drops off the calculations so it’s now much easier to comply for 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25. Plus revenues are now higher.

 

Given the interest in Olise at like 60m there is evidently money to spend. IMO they haven’t found the right targets at a price they think is fair.

[nufcjmc]

Still hurts my head this so appreciate the actual or amateur accountants here. If in this financial year 3 or 4 more sponsorship partners are announced namely training kit and training ground start effectively this season does that mean it goes into the accounts this year for this summer and Jan transfers or is income reported next year and would help next summer?

 

 

Edited July 31 by nufcjmc

[Unbelievable]

39 minutes ago, tarie4 said:

Interesting, very interesting.

 

"The good news is that £70m now drops off going into the new cycle so we have got that chance to know what our available headroom is."

 

Any thoughts what that might be?

 

 

 

Are you a student per chance?

[Nucasol]

24 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Aye it’s Waugh with his weekly copy and paste job. 

Talk about dialling it in the lazy shite.

[Unbelievable]

8 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

The PSR question has been answered many times in this thread. It’s a rolling 3 year period in which max losses are 105m. The club had a crunch at the end of 23/24 to comply for years 21/22, 22/23 and23/24 and had to flog Anderson and Minteh to make it.

In 21/22 the club made a big loss of 70m, that now drops off the calculations so it’s now much easier to comply for 22/23, 23/24 and 24/25. Plus revenues are now higher.

 

Given the interest in Olise at like 60m there is evidently money to spend. IMO they haven’t found the right targets at a price they think is fair.

 

Firstly, the max allowed loss over a 3 year period is only part of the PSR rules that restrict us. Secondly, not only player trading feeds into that P/L, or more precisely our cost level has risen more significantly than our revenue level over the last few years, so a big chunk of that 70m people think we could now spend is already being spent on amortised transfer fees and wages of players and staff already here (amongst other things).

 

We could perhaps afford a 60m transfer fee plus let's say 150k per week wages for one player, but we would very likely then have to sell players and/or increase commercial revenue significantly before PSR deadline day 24/25 to get back to a position of PSR compliance.

[kingxlnc]

Sometimes I feel NUFC are too perfectionist and trying to get the perfect player when all they need is an improvement across the board.

You can't raise the ceiling with every signing. For example for RCB, that Hujisen that Bournemouth signed, it was 12.8m. No brainer for a 19 year old with the same passing range profile as Schar. Schar can still be first choice and Hujisen can be back up. Milenkovic at Forest would be another in the same price range. Would have solved the position, with Botman due to come back as well as Lascelles, and Kelly and Burn who can slot in too. We would have 3 RCB and 3 LCB. Job done with little damage done after Tosin fell through.

 

For the RW, literally Chiesa is available for 25M. Even if thats another 10m committed in wages,  it makes sense, especially if we get rid of Almiron for that amount. I do understand he would expect to start so maybe he is not quite right. Matias Soule was also available for that amount, as a back up RW,  sure. Chiesa and Soule for 50M would sort out that RW for less than the price of Olise. 

If you want to go big, a Kubo (and all the additional income he would bring) would be available for the Olise money. 

For back up striker, Ben Bereton Diaz was a good third choice, we could even keep Wilson as No. 2. 

That would have sorted out the entire window for us, and probably even left enough money for a James Trafford. 

[gdm]

54 minutes ago, Paully said:

Having missed out on top target Michael Olise to Bayern Munich, despite meeting his Crystal Palace release clause

if true, money is there then

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

Talk about dialling it in the lazy shite.

They just don’t seem to be on the pulse at all, or maybe they are but the information they have is sourced directly from the club and can’t be shared. 

[Yorkie]

I have some sympathy for the likes of Waugh. There's an expectation on them to get scoops but information coming out of the club is so locked-down these days that it must be very hard to deliver anything meaningful to their editors. I pray for Caulkin now Staveley is out of the building. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Yorkie said:

I have some sympathy for the likes of Waugh. There's an expectation on them to get scoops but information coming out of the club is so locked-down these days that it must be very hard to deliver anything meaningful to their editors. I pray for Caulkin now Staveley is out of the building. 

I hear ya Yorks but he’s a journalist, if his sole sources are within the club then he’s not very good at his job. 

[Nucasol]

9 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

I pray for Caulkin now Staveley is out of the building. 

He doesn’t do transfers, he’s a misty-eyed ‘all the feels’ article writer, not a transfer type. Waugh is neither.

[WilliamPS]

To me this window looks like the Isak window. In that summer the club had a look at loads of players, and there were plenty of rumours but the club didn’t seem to view the fees as appropriate.

 

In the end they went back to Isak as even though he had a bigger fee than they really wanted to pay, he actually represented value at that fee - better to spend 60m on a 60m player, than 40m on a 20m player. Olise was viewed as worth it and the bid went in.

 

IMO the club are still looking for a RW available at a fair fee for the ability. Some selling clubs might get realistic with pricing in August and we might have to wait until then for a RW.

[sushimonster85]

3 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

In the end they went back to Isak as even though he had a bigger fee than they really wanted to pay, he actually represented value at that fee - better to spend 60m on a 60m player, than 40m on a 20m player. Olise was viewed as worth it and the bid went in.

 

It's not quite the same. It was the injury to Wilson that prompted us going back in for Isak. We were (by all accounts) on the verge of signing Joao Pedro until Wilson picked up that bad injury. 

[Unbelievable]

4 minutes ago, WilliamPS said:

To me this window looks like the Isak window. In that summer the club had a look at loads of players, and there were plenty of rumours but the club didn’t seem to view the fees as appropriate.

 

In the end they went back to Isak as even though he had a bigger fee than they really wanted to pay, he actually represented value at that fee - better to spend 60m on a 60m player, than 40m on a 20m player. Olise was viewed as worth it and the bid went in.

 

IMO the club are still looking for a RW available at a fair fee for the ability. Some selling clubs might get realistic with pricing in August and we might have to wait until then for a RW.

Agreed, if the right player becomes available for the right price we will move. Equally I think realistically we will go without RW upgrade again if that opportunity doesn't come up, because, using your anology, it doesn't make sense in our position to panic buy a 20m player for 40m.

[TheBrownBottle]

31 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

Still hurts my head this so appreciate the actual or amateur accountants here. If in this financial year 3 or 4 more sponsorship partners are announced namely training kit and training ground start effectively this season does that mean it goes into the accounts this year for this summer and Jan transfers or is income reported next year and would help next summer?

 

 

 

It’s in this year (24/25)

[Bondedcrown]

33 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Sometimes I feel NUFC are too perfectionist and trying to get the perfect player when all they need is an improvement across the board.

You can't raise the ceiling with every signing. For example for RCB, that Hujisen that Bournemouth signed, it was 12.8m. No brainer for a 19 year old with the same passing range profile as Schar. Schar can still be first choice and Hujisen can be back up. Milenkovic at Forest would be another in the same price range. Would have solved the position, with Botman due to come back as well as Lascelles, and Kelly and Burn who can slot in too. We would have 3 RCB and 3 LCB. Job done with little damage done after Tosin fell through.

 

For the RW, literally Chiesa is available for 25M. Even if thats another 10m committed in wages,  it makes sense, especially if we get rid of Almiron for that amount. I do understand he would expect to start so maybe he is not quite right. Matias Soule was also available for that amount, as a back up RW,  sure. Chiesa and Soule for 50M would sort out that RW for less than the price of Olise. 

If you want to go big, a Kubo (and all the additional income he would bring) would be available for the Olise money. 

For back up striker, Ben Bereton Diaz was a good third choice, we could even keep Wilson as No. 2. 

That would have sorted out the entire window for us, and probably even left enough money for a James Trafford. 

Why bother with the set up we've got if it's all that easy? 

[jonny1403]

35 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Sometimes I feel NUFC are too perfectionist and trying to get the perfect player when all they need is an improvement across the board.

You can't raise the ceiling with every signing. For example for RCB, that Hujisen that Bournemouth signed, it was 12.8m. No brainer for a 19 year old with the same passing range profile as Schar. Schar can still be first choice and Hujisen can be back up. Milenkovic at Forest would be another in the same price range. Would have solved the position, with Botman due to come back as well as Lascelles, and Kelly and Burn who can slot in too. We would have 3 RCB and 3 LCB. Job done with little damage done after Tosin fell through.

 

For the RW, literally Chiesa is available for 25M. Even if thats another 10m committed in wages,  it makes sense, especially if we get rid of Almiron for that amount. I do understand he would expect to start so maybe he is not quite right. Matias Soule was also available for that amount, as a back up RW,  sure. Chiesa and Soule for 50M would sort out that RW for less than the price of Olise. 

If you want to go big, a Kubo (and all the additional income he would bring) would be available for the Olise money. 

For back up striker, Ben Bereton Diaz was a good third choice, we could even keep Wilson as No. 2. 

That would have sorted out the entire window for us, and probably even left enough money for a James Trafford. 

 

Why do people keep mentioning Chiesa as a no brainer when he's exactly the opposite. Injury prone, in poor form, huge wages and has never played outside of Italy. It's such a lazy suggestion based on his name and nothing else.