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1 hour ago, cubaricho said:


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Agreed and a better second keeper last year and we’d be in Europe - end of as far as I’m concerned. Ā That said even if we don’t buy anyone, think of the positives and that is one window where our spending is relatively low so edges towards an extravagant one in the future.

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I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too.

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Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game.

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I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now.

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Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā 

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6 minutes ago, Andy said:

I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too.

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Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game.

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I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now.

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Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā 

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Aye, it isn't unreasonable to suggest we haven't had a great summer, I agree. :thup:

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I just think it's also not as doom and gloom as folk make out.

 

 

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I spent the majority of last season consoling myself how the expiring contracts in 2025 give us an opportunity to reshape the squad this summer, adding real quality in the process. I was confident that we'd have the time, the resource, the planning to really push on this summer..Ā 

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So I'm really disappointed with our window, our inability to identify and attract talent from Europe and most of all the PSR financial planning. Don't particularly blame anybody (apart from the Ashworth the snake) but it's a missed opportunity.

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I see that Eddie is confident that his style will always bring us goals but we're already often hard-countered by low defenses. In football you often need to adapt, evolve, sometimes change just for the sake of change.. add a new dimension, a new creative spark just to keep up the form and ease the load on the existing top performers.

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As it is I very much doubt that Isak, Bruno and Gordon can maintain top form without injuries for another full season.Ā So imo top 5/6 is beyond this squad's capabilities, with or without the ridiculously overpriced Guehi.Ā 

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As long as expectations on Howe are lowered if we make no new signings I’m not too bothered. He can’t be expected to make top 5 without any, not saying we can’t do it but it shouldn’t the expectation of him.

 

 

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I'd still expect us to challenge for top 6, we have the squad to do well and a manager that will work himself to the ground to ensure results are achieved - just irritating seeing our rivals get some great deals over the line whilst we still huff and puff

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7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

As long as expectations on Howe are lowered if we make know signings I’m not too bothered. He can’t be expected to make top 5 without any, not saying we can’t do it but it shouldn’t the expectation of him.

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But Eddie has set top 4 expectations himself, and he’s set those expectations with the current squad.Ā 

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CB scares me a bit and Schar missing exposes the quality a lot. I reckon in their own right Burn and Kelly are mid-table defenders, Krafth back up when needed. Schar improves it a lot but if we could get Guehi I'll be a lot happier.Ā 

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I know you could say the same about RW but we have other means to score and assist, they're still handy players in Howe's set up..

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Yes, I can’t find the press conference now but both he and the players have stated CL qualification is the aim.Ā 

Aim and expectations are slightly different though I think. Like I say we are good enough to do it, I just hope expectations of him are lowered.

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In isolation, you can take this summer but if it was to stay as it is then that would be three transfer windows where we haven't improved the 1st eleven. You could argue Tonali is an improvement but he was up and down in the limited time we saw him and being an Italian international doesn't mean too much these days so the jury's still very much out on him.

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Lets see what the next few days throw up.

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14 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

But Eddie has set top 4 expectations himself, and he’s set those expectations with the current squad.Ā 

It’s one thing expecting it of yourself but another having those put on you by your employers. I think that’s what he was saying, he hopes he gets support from the club.

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1 minute ago, Gawalls said:

It’s one thing expecting it of yourself but another having those put on you by your employers. I think that’s what he was saying, he hopes he gets support from the club.

Aye that’s what I was trying to say šŸ‘

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10 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

CB scares me a bit and Schar missing exposes the quality a lot. I reckon in their own right Burn and Kelly are mid-table defenders, Krafth back up when needed. Schar improves it a lot but if we could get Guehi I'll be a lot happier.Ā 

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I know you could say the same about RW but we have other means to score and assist, they're still handy players in Howe's set up..

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I genuinely think you’re being very harsh on Burn there. Terrible LB but has been stellar as CB ever since signing for us imo.

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51 minutes ago, Andy said:

I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too.

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Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game.

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I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now.

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Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā 

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I get what you’re saying, it’s just that I see it as apart from Arsenal and Man City there's uncertainty about every other team competing for a European place. Whilst I understand the standing still is going backward argument, I’d argue the signings of Kelly and Osula have raised the floor of the squad, and the fact that no European football should theoretically mean the squad is loaded less, whin in turn means we should be able to remain competitive.

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I cannot believe Howe would willingly not make any more signings when money is available, add to that his comments regarding staying instead of taking the England job and it points to things not running smoothly behind the scenes.

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If that is the case then either him or Mitchell won’t be here in a years time.

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11 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I genuinely think you’re being very harsh on Burn there. Terrible LB but has been stellar as CB ever since signing for us imo.

ā€œTerrible LBā€ is ridiculously harsh mind. He had a poor run for a period last season (probably partly due to pushing himself to come back early from a broken back…) but he played LB for the majority of the season before when we had the best defensive record in the league.

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Agree his best position is CB though, and wouldn’t expect to see him getting too many games at LB ahead of Hall or Kelly now.

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There is no excuse not to make any signings when we have 50-60m funds available. Even if we cannot get Guehi, our scouting work and Mitchell’s own network should come up some back up plans around Europe to fill the CB role.Ā 
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The scouts aren’t paid for nth.

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12 minutes ago, SteV said:

ā€œTerrible LBā€ is ridiculously harsh mind. He had a poor run for a period last season (probably partly due to pushing himself to come back early from a broken back…) but he played LB for the majority of the season before when we had the best defensive record in the league.

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Agree his best position is CB though, and wouldn’t expect to see him getting too many games at LB ahead of Hall or Kelly now.

We seem to be creating a circle of over the top judging on burn, my apologies as I love Burn and think he’s been a great signing, I just love him at CB that’s all.

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