Gawalls Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 hour ago, cubaricho said: Attaboy. š Agreed and a better second keeper last year and weād be in Europe - end of as far as Iām concerned. Ā That said even if we donāt buy anyone, think of the positives and that is one window where our spending is relatively low so edges towards an extravagant one in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too. Ā Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game. Ā I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now. Ā Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Andy said: I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too. Ā Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game. Ā I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now. Ā Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā Ā Ā Aye, it isn't unreasonable to suggest we haven't had a great summer, I agree. Ā I just think it's also not as doom and gloom as folk make out. Edited August 24, 2024 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I spent the majority of last season consoling myself how the expiring contracts in 2025 give us an opportunity to reshape the squad this summer, adding real quality in the process. I was confident that we'd have the time, the resource, the planning to really push on this summer..Ā Ā So I'm really disappointed with our window, our inability to identify and attract talent from Europe and most of all the PSR financial planning. Don't particularly blame anybody (apart from the Ashworth the snake) but it's a missed opportunity. Ā I see that Eddie is confident that his style will always bring us goals but we're already often hard-countered by low defenses. In football you often need to adapt, evolve, sometimes change just for the sake of change.. add a new dimension, a new creative spark just to keep up the form and ease the load on the existing top performers. Ā As it is I very much doubt that Isak, Bruno and Gordon can maintain top form without injuries for another full season.Ā So imo top 5/6 is beyond this squad's capabilities, with or without the ridiculously overpriced Guehi.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 (edited) As long as expectations on Howe are lowered if we make no new signings Iām not too bothered. He canāt be expected to make top 5 without any, not saying we canāt do it but it shouldnāt the expectation of him. Edited August 24, 2024 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I'd still expect us to challenge for top 6, we have the squad to do well and a manager that will work himself to the ground to ensure results are achieved - just irritating seeing our rivals get some great deals over the line whilst we still huff and puff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: As long as expectations on Howe are lowered if we make know signings Iām not too bothered. He canāt be expected to make top 5 without any, not saying we canāt do it but it shouldnāt the expectation of him. Ā Ā Ā But Eddie has set top 4 expectations himself, and heās set those expectations with the current squad.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Joelinton7 said: But Eddie has set top 4 expectations himself, and heās set those expectations with the current squad.Ā Has he ? Iāve not seen him say that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Has he ? Iāve not seen him say that tbh. Yes, I canāt find the press conference now but both he and the players have stated CL qualification is the aim.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 (edited) CB scares me a bit and Schar missing exposes the quality a lot. I reckon in their own right Burn and Kelly are mid-table defenders, Krafth back up when needed. Schar improves it a lot but if we could get Guehi I'll be a lot happier.Ā Ā I know you could say the same about RW but we have other means to score and assist, they're still handy players in Howe's set up.. Edited August 24, 2024 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: Yes, I canāt find the press conference now but both he and the players have stated CL qualification is the aim.Ā Aim and expectations are slightly different though I think. Like I say we are good enough to do it, I just hope expectations of him are lowered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 In isolation, you can take this summer but if it was to stay as it is then that would be three transfer windows where we haven't improved the 1st eleven. You could argue Tonali is an improvement but he was up and down in the limited time we saw him and being an Italian international doesn't mean too much these days so the jury's still very much out on him. Ā Lets see what the next few days throw up. Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 Quiz: Which Chelsea outcast should your club sign? Ā https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2kjn34xx8do Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 14 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said: But Eddie has set top 4 expectations himself, and heās set those expectations with the current squad.Ā Itās one thing expecting it of yourself but another having those put on you by your employers. I think thatās what he was saying, he hopes he gets support from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: Quiz: Which Chelsea outcast should your club sign? Ā https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c2kjn34xx8do Ā Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 1 minute ago, Gawalls said: Itās one thing expecting it of yourself but another having those put on you by your employers. I think thatās what he was saying, he hopes he gets support from the club. Aye thatās what I was trying to say š Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 10 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: CB scares me a bit and Schar missing exposes the quality a lot. I reckon in their own right Burn and Kelly are mid-table defenders, Krafth back up when needed. Schar improves it a lot but if we could get Guehi I'll be a lot happier.Ā Ā I know you could say the same about RW but we have other means to score and assist, they're still handy players in Howe's set up.. Ā Ā Ā I genuinely think youāre being very harsh on Burn there. Terrible LB but has been stellar as CB ever since signing for us imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 51 minutes ago, Andy said: I think top 4 will be difficult if we sign nobody. Most of the teams competing for those positions have strengthened (or are already strong enough). You have the top 8 from last season who will be there or there abouts, then Brighton look like they can potentially be in the mix too. Ā Lack of Europe will help, but it still doesn't guarantee an injury free season. We are already scraping at the barrel defensively and we've played one game. Ā I think the big thing for me is how impotent our right hand side looks going forward if Trippier leaves. We have relied so much on him over the past two seasons to create chances, Livramento doesn't have anywhere near the same effectiveness at the moment. That's an area of his game that will develop of course, but he's quite a way off. It leaves us looking lopsided, when we've all been screaming for a RW for a few windows now. Ā Still plenty of time, but I don't think it's unreasonable to say it will have been a disappointing summer if we get to next week and our squad looks the same as it does at the moment.Ā Ā Ā I get what youāre saying, itās just that I see it as apart from Arsenal and Man City there's uncertainty about every other team competing for a European place. Whilst I understand the standing still is going backward argument, Iād argue the signings of Kelly and Osula have raised the floor of the squad, and the fact that no European football should theoretically mean the squad is loaded less, whin in turn means we should be able to remain competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 With the ambition we supposedly have as a club, to end the window with no more transfers would be a huge failure if you ask me.Ā Ā Not stressed out yet, as I have faith in the people running the club.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 I cannot believe Howe would willingly not make any more signings when money is available, add to that his comments regarding staying instead of taking the England job and it points to things not running smoothly behind the scenes. Ā If that is the case then either him or Mitchell wonāt be here in a years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 11 minutes ago, Gawalls said: I genuinely think youāre being very harsh on Burn there. Terrible LB but has been stellar as CB ever since signing for us imo. āTerrible LBā is ridiculously harsh mind. He had a poor run for a period last season (probably partly due to pushing himself to come back early from a broken backā¦) but he played LB for the majority of the season before when we had the best defensive record in the league. Ā Agree his best position is CB though, and wouldnāt expect to see him getting too many games at LB ahead of Hall or Kelly now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 Seven days before the transfer window slams shut. Ā Hopefully Mitchell is working this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 There is no excuse not to make any signings when we have 50-60m funds available. Even if we cannot get Guehi, our scouting work and Mitchellās own network should come up some back up plans around Europe to fill the CB role.Ā Ā The scouts arenāt paid for nth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 12 minutes ago, SteV said: āTerrible LBā is ridiculously harsh mind. He had a poor run for a period last season (probably partly due to pushing himself to come back early from a broken backā¦) but he played LB for the majority of the season before when we had the best defensive record in the league. Ā Agree his best position is CB though, and wouldnāt expect to see him getting too many games at LB ahead of Hall or Kelly now. We seem to be creating a circle of over the top judging on burn, my apologies as I love Burn and think heās been a great signing, I just love him at CB thatās all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheToon Posted August 24, 2024 Share Posted August 24, 2024 Itās also the lack of youth signings which is a disappointment. There have been a few academy pick ups but no āMintehā type Ā£7m wonderkids? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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