Exiled in Texas Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, andycap said: Can see a lot of players just winding there contracts down as the new norm with most clubs struggling to buy them outright. Clubs will be losing out on loads of cash if that starts to happen. I can see the big clubs struggling the most as they're assets are more valuable. Love if salah and van dijk fucked off without them getting a penny. I don’t understand the Saudi pro league strategy. They pay huge salaries compared to premier league or European clubs so why not wait until the players are free agents and the sign them. There is no need or benefit to sign players like Salah, for a big transfer fee, with a year left on his contract, when they can promise Salah mega buck when his contact expires. Saudis paying transfer fees for soon-to-be free agents makes no financial sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 hours ago, Whitley mag said: Qualify for Europe and might be wrong but think where currently already above the 70%. Introduced in 2022, this restricts a club's spending on player wages, transfer and agent fees up to 70 per cent of their revenue. This 70 per cent limit will officially be adhered to next season, having been set at 90 per cent in the 2022/23 season and 80 in 2023/24 as part of a gradual implementation process. Seems like if you get into europe you get punished even more 🤷♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 29 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: Seems like if you get into europe you get punished even more 🤷♂️ The reasoning for that is due to alignment with Uefa rules which is fine in principle. The issue is the punishments which do and will continue to differ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 hours ago, The Prophet said: Would the squad cost rules not work in our favour? I'm not sure I fully understand it. No , it’s horrendous for us (especially if we qualify for Europe) 70% costs v turnover it’s going to leave us with next to nothing Costs include , Wages , Amotisatuon too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The joys of football in 2025. Unless you bedded in massive revenue streams pre-2021, you have the choice of: - Not selling the players who got you into Europe and buying the players you need to compete on 4 fronts and blowing out the ratios - Not buying any players, not selling your purples but burning them out (aka NUFC 23/24 season) - Selling your stars to your Cartel 6 rivals to finance / adhere to artificially created rules, weakening you and strengthening them, making it an uphill task to repeat - Having a stellar academy and using / selling them (cheers Mike Ashley for that glorious act of self sabotage) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 18 minutes ago, Nucasol said: The joys of football in 2025. Unless you bedded in massive revenue streams pre-2021, you have the choice of: - Not selling the players who got you into Europe and buying the players you need to compete on 4 fronts and blowing out the ratios - Not buying any players, not selling your purples but burning them out (aka NUFC 23/24 season) - Selling your stars to your Cartel 6 rivals to finance / adhere to artificially created rules, weakening you and strengthening them, making it an uphill task to repeat - Having a stellar academy and using / selling them (cheers Mike Ashley for that glorious act of self sabotage) AND ITS LIVE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewel Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Fuck, this is so boring. Not just us, but there hardly seems to be any eye-catching deals being done anywhere. Man City have bought a load of prospects, and that’s about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I guess if we got to Europe we could just ignoring the European limit and work to the premier league one. Sounds like we’d just get fines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The 70% cutoff wouldn't be so much of an issue with Champions League qualification and the money that brings but if you just end up in the Conference League the 15% drop in "allowable expenses" wouldn't come close to being covered by the income from being in that tournament. Almost penalises clubs for almost getting there but just missing out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 hours ago, mighty__mag said: Loads of teams in Europe target the Argentine league for talents they can buy low sell high, feel that is a market we need to enter. Even if we do, as you've said yourself, loads of teams from Europe are entering the same market for the same reasons. Instead of fighting over the top proven talent, we will be fighting over the top unproven prospects who will hopefully be ready after a year or so prep. Not exactly spine tingling stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, JonBez comesock said: No , it’s horrendous for us (especially if we qualify for Europe) 70% costs v turnover it’s going to leave us with next to nothing Costs include , Wages , Amotisatuon too. What were our costs v turnover in the last accountancy year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What were our costs v turnover in the last accountancy year? Our wages alone are more than 70% iirc. I said when this was published this will absolutely cripple us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Our wages alone are more than 70% iirc. I said when this was published this will absolutely cripple us. I assume if we want to keep Isak that percentage is only going to go higher. PSR is so well designed, to comply you have to sell your best players, probably to the cartel as they are the only clubs who can pay the wages you aren't allowed to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 17 minutes ago, The Prophet said: What were our costs v turnover in the last accountancy year? Wages to Turnover were at 75% for 22/23. Including the rest of the costs you can tack on another couple percent, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, MagCA said: Wages to Turnover were at 75% for 22/23. Including the rest of the costs you can tack on another couple percent, I guess. So in theory, minus any commercial growth since then, we'd ne looking at an amortised spend of around £75 million if we chose to max out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: So in theory, minus any commercial growth since then, we'd ne looking at an amortised spend of around £75 million if we chose to max out? In 2023 our amortization plus salaries were higher than turnover. To be compliant we would need to reduce either turnover or amortization or sell someone. Rancid rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: In 2023 our amortization plus salaries were higher than turnover. To be compliant we would need to reduce either turnover or amortization or sell someone. Rancid rules. So wages aren't included in amortisation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, The Prophet said: So wages aren't included in amortisation? No, they aren't. Amortization is basically the cost of players transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, r0cafella said: No, they aren't. Amortization is basically the cost of players transfer fees. Aye, I just wasn't sure if they were included as part of the PSR calc. It feels like there's a lot of clubs that are going to be knackered by this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Aye, I just wasn't sure if they were included as part of the PSR calc. It feels like there's a lot of clubs that are going to be knackered by this. They all voted for it so should be well aware of the impact plus these rules obviously affect the ambitious ones the most. Btw glad to see your back and posting again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, r0cafella said: They all voted for it so should be well aware of the impact plus these rules obviously affect the ambitious ones the most. Btw glad to see your back and posting again Cheers man. Only just feels I got my head around the last set of PSR rules. Explains why we're focusing on clearing the decks then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SUPERTOON Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 We would have been better off without the window opening at all this month tbh, as soon as it’s open it always feels a bit more negative around the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, SUPERTOON said: We would have been better off without the window opening at all this month tbh, as soon as it’s open it always feels a bit more negative around the club. Paul Mitchell likes this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We would have been better off without the window opening at all this month tbh, as soon as it’s open it always feels a bit more negative around the club. The shit state of the window, and several of the sky 6 struggling and can't make moves is perfect for us in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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