NUFC Transfer Rumours

[AngelofTheFourth]

20 hours ago, HayDen Traces said:

Mbuemo having a stinker so far tonight. Every touch is heavy and he keeps giving the ball away

 

[TRon]

56 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I always thought the attitude thing came from when people thought he was getting above his station for trying to feed kids. Like how dare a young lad from Manchester criticise people in power etc. 
 

Is it actually real? 

 

 

 

 

 

It's all down to form tbh. If he's causing opposition teams problems and scoring goals, no one would bat an eyelid if he kicked a chip butty out of a starving kids hands. Just have to look at how a couple of good games for Villa had many singing his praises again.

 

He's just not doing enough on the pitch to justify massive wages. That's it really.

[alexf]

A new contract for Isak would eat into a chunk of our available spend you would have to think. Not saying it isn't worth it, it's essential we try and tie him down for longer and avoid needing to cash in next summer. But he will move on to more money then we have ever payed for a player if he extends.

 

Edit* in terms of cash available but also the wages to revenue turnover thing you need to comply with for Europe. Which if we want to add more "purples" this summer, must be a tricky balancing act for our recruitment staff.  

 

 

Edited May 2 by alexf

[Mazzy]

5 minutes ago, alexf said:

A new contract for Isak would eat into a chunk of our available spend you would have to think. Not saying it isn't worth it, it's essential we try and tie him down for longer and avoid needing to cash in next summer. But he will move on to more money then we have ever payed for a player if he extends.

 

Edit* in terms of cash available but also the wages to revenue turnover thing you need to comply with for Europe. Which if we want to add more "purples" this summer, must be a tricky balancing act for our recruitment staff.  

 

 

 

 

Doesn't extending a players contract actually work in our favour in terms of PSR? Obviously he would be getting a wage increase though so perhaps the difference is barely anything. But I thought a contract extension spreads out the fee we paid originally over the now longer contract. 

 

Could be wrong about this but when he signed for £63M that was spread across 6 years, so that's £10.5M per year. If we were to extend his contract to 2030 for example that's 8 years total so his PSR value goes down to just over £7.5M per year.

 

Like I said, I could be totally wrong but this is what I thought was the case for PSR calculations when players extended contracts.

[Keegans Export]

26 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

Doesn't extending a players contract actually work in our favour in terms of PSR? Obviously he would be getting a wage increase though so perhaps the difference is barely anything. But I thought a contract extension spreads out the fee we paid originally over the now longer contract. 

 

Could be wrong about this but when he signed for £63M that was spread across 6 years, so that's £10.5M per year. If we were to extend his contract to 2030 for example that's 8 years total so his PSR value goes down to just over £7.5M per year.

 

Like I said, I could be totally wrong but this is what I thought was the case for PSR calculations when players extended contracts.

That's right - if you extend the contract you also extend the period of amortisation which decreases the amortisation per year.

 

If we gave him an extra £50k/week, that'd cost us £2.6m/year more but as your sums show we could potentially cover that (and then some) with the reduced amortisation costs.

 

Edit - it's the remaining amortisation that is extended so if he's got (for example) £30m left over three years and we extend by another two years then the annual amortisation drops from £10m/year to £6m/year 

 

 

Edited May 2 by Keegans Export

[Mag3.14]

22 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

Doesn't extending a players contract actually work in our favour in terms of PSR? Obviously he would be getting a wage increase though so perhaps the difference is barely anything. But I thought a contract extension spreads out the fee we paid originally over the now longer contract. 

 

Could be wrong about this but when he signed for £63M that was spread across 6 years, so that's £10.5M per year. If we were to extend his contract to 2030 for example that's 8 years total so his PSR value goes down to just over £7.5M per year.

 

Like I said, I could be totally wrong but this is what I thought was the case for PSR calculations when players extended contracts.

 

Yeah this is correct, we'd extend the remaining amortisation over the new contract length or up to 5 years for PSR purposes.  He's currently into the 3rd year of 5 so we've effectively amortised £37.8m of the £63m paid.  Giving him a new 5 year contract would reduce the amortisation from £12.6m/yr to only £5.04m/yr 

[Mazzy]

7 minutes ago, Mag3.14 said:

 

Yeah this is correct, we'd extend the remaining amortisation over the new contract length or up to 5 years for PSR purposes.  He's currently into the 3rd year of 5 so we've effectively amortised £37.8m of the £63m paid.  Giving him a new 5 year contract would reduce the amortisation from £12.6m/yr to only £5.04m/yr 

 

Well that's even better than I thought originally and it's a no brainer then if we can get that done in the summer. 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

2 hours ago, Mag3.14 said:

 

Yeah this is correct, we'd extend the remaining amortisation over the new contract length or up to 5 years for PSR purposes.  He's currently into the 3rd year of 5 so we've effectively amortised £37.8m of the £63m paid.  Giving him a new 5 year contract would reduce the amortisation from £12.6m/yr to only £5.04m/yr 

3rd year of 6, as we bought him before they closed that loophole after Chelsea took the piss.

[Mag3.14]

1 hour ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

3rd year of 6, as we bought him before they closed that loophole after Chelsea took the piss.

 

Hmm, that makes a bit of difference - new 5 year deal would only drop amortisation from £10.5m to £6.3m/yr then, still enough headroom for £50k/week wage improvement though  

[GEFAFWISP]

Something tells me he'll want a touch more than 50k extra a week like.

[Keegans Export]

20 minutes ago, GEFAFWISP said:

Something tells me he'll want a touch more than 50k extra a week like.

Well that was just throwing a number out there but let's say its £100k/week - that's +£5.2m/year which is still almost entirely covered by the drop in amortisation @Mag3.14 worked out above 

[Sibierski]

Isak new contract also cements further to new big signings that our best are staying. 
 

He’s reaching levels where top players will want to play with him, because he will make them better players.

[FloydianMag]

23 hours ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

 

 

[Bunk Moreland]

16 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

 

 

Mbuemo to the scouse mackems confirmed

[Displayname]

59 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

 

Get him.

[FloydianMag]

23 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Get him.

Before Everton do🤣

[Yorkie]

Knock it tf down. 

[Displayname]

3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

Before Everton do🤣

He only used Everton as a cover for not making it obvious how desperate he is to come here.

[FloydianMag]

24 minutes ago, Displayname said:

He only used Everton as a cover for not making it obvious how desperate he is to come here.

I agree👍

[Stifler]

Genuine question, why would any player leave Brentford for Everton right now?

[PauloGeordio]

6 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Genuine question, why would any player leave Brentford for Everton right now?

[SteV]

13 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Genuine question, why would any player leave Brentford for Everton right now?

Substantially better wages, playing in a much bigger stadium, and playing for a club that should (at least in theory) have a much higher ceiling.

[Stifler]

17 minutes ago, SteV said:

Substantially better wages, playing in a much bigger stadium, and playing for a club that should (at least in theory) have a much higher ceiling.

Will they offer better wages?

Even with their takeover aren’t they still going to be close to PSR limits?

 

New stadium aside, theirs nothing really all that positive about the club at the minute, and no real indication that they will be finishing above Brentford any time soon.

 

If Brentford keep a hold of Thomas Frank, I think their ceiling for the time being is better than Everton’s, even more so if they sneak that last European place.

[nufc123]

7 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Even with their takeover aren’t they still going to be close to PSR limits?

They are a lot healthier.

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, nufc123 said:

They are a lot healthier.

Are they?

They still have to offset the losses from the last 2 seasons, and their sponsorship income has bottomed out.

Their match day income will increase with more fans turning up, but that will be working to offset the previous 2 years of shit accounts.