mondonewc Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, nufc123 said: Pope not top 10 If your referring to my post you've misread what I said (if not then ignore me lol), no top 6 side will want to buy him, I'm absolutely certain on that, that's already enough to tell me that's a problem. There's very few players in our 1st eleven that would be true about besides Pope. I also think it's highly unlikely a side that finishes top 10 would look to buy him either. He's had two bad shoulder injuries, that would put many off, his kicking is arguably the worst in the league, and most managers want a keeper good with their feet to play out from the back. I'm not trying to disrespect Pope, been a great Keeper for us, will always be a legend for being part of the cup winning team, but someone will always be the weakest of the 11, for me it's very very clearly him in the current 1st team 11 which makes it essential we upgrade him. Edited May 13 by mondonewc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Yeah sorry but every top six side would have Pope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Just now, Joelinton7 said: Yeah sorry but every top six side would have Pope I mean as their 1st choice GK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 hours ago, Mazzy said: Trafford is a no brainer for me. Should have got him last summer but IMO we can't afford to miss out on him. Pope is fine and maybe he could go another season as first choice but I think we'd hugely regret not getting Trafford while we can. He'll be the best keeper in the Premier League in two/three years time. Quite a statement that - is that based on his form for Burnley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Pope is class he has worldie matches in his locker. Paris away Leicester at home Brighton away just to name a few. Without him for long periods we'd struggle in my opinion. That's why I like the Trafford as his understudy idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Sorry for pointing out the obvious but unfortunately Pope is not good enough with his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 When we get linked to likes of Eze, I always see it as more agents using our name to help with negotiations with the player off elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 49 minutes ago, andycap said: Pope is class he has worldie matches in his locker. Paris away Leicester at home Brighton away just to name a few. Without him for long periods we'd struggle in my opinion. That's why I like the Trafford as his understudy idea. Worldie matches like Leicester at home? He made one save that he probably should’ve saved. I understand that it gets highlighted because of the importance but come on. He’s a good goalkeeper no question but he’s not elite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I can't help but think about Alisson and Ederson and how their distribution is vital to the intent of those sides. Take Villa even, remember their 2nd goal against us when Martinez played it over our press right into Tielemans, who had acres of space to start the move that ended up with a goal. We end up so often having only one way to play because Pope cannot reliably distribute the ball. He is a fantastic shotstopper but there is a lot more to goalkeeping within the tactical framework we want to use. I think a better ball playing keeper would improve our consistency and ability to dictate play against lesser sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 20 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Worldie matches like Leicester at home? He made one save that he probably should’ve saved. I understand that it gets highlighted because of the importance but come on. He’s a good goalkeeper no question but he’s not elite. I think he’s on about the game In 22/23 and if you think he should’ve been expected to make that save, you need a trip to the optician Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 That save from Maddison when we secured CL was a great save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 29 minutes ago, Sibierski said: When we get linked to likes of Eze, I always see it as more agents using our name to help with negotiations with the player off elsewhere. This. Similar to that pencil necked cunt Maddison when we were linked before he went to Spuds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 36 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Worldie matches like Leicester at home? He made one save that he probably should’ve saved. I understand that it gets highlighted because of the importance but come on. He’s a good goalkeeper no question but he’s not elite. He saved it didn't he? After having nothing to face all game a lot of goalkeepers switch off. Best keeper I've seen in a toon top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 16 minutes ago, Ikon said: That save from Maddison when we secured CL was a great save. Bang on that's what I was refering too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, andycap said: He saved it didn't he? After having nothing to face all game a lot of goalkeepers switch off. Best keeper I've seen in a toon top. Aye but we'll be a better team with a better keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Just now, Dr Venkman said: Aye but we'll be a better team with a better keeper. You could be right but theres not many better around His passing has looked better of late aswell. He's elite as a keeper except for his kicking Woild you rather have an onana type brilliant on the ball but a rick waiting to happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 hours ago, r0cafella said: Id take Huijsen over Guehi personally. Higher ceiling imo. I can see Guehi being similar to Lescott going to City and starting them off as a title winning side. I think Guehi's better than he was but it'd be that sort of profile signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, andycap said: You could be right but theres not many better around His passing has looked better of late aswell. He's elite as a keeper except for his kicking Woild you rather have an onana type brilliant on the ball but a rick waiting to happen? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 24 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: I think he’s on about the game In 22/23 and if you think he should’ve been expected to make that save, you need a trip to the optician I assumed he meant the one right at the end that secured the 0-0 that was right at him. Wasn’t from JM mind so maybe different saves. Good save, but he lets that in and we’re all asking questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Just now, Dr Venkman said: No. But if you want a keeper like ederson Allison etc they cost a fortune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 I mean I reckon it's obvious enough not to need explanation, but I'll humour you. Pope should only be upgraded for an elite keeper, that rules out the likes of Onana. An elite keeper will allow us to challenge for the title. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Just now, andycap said: But if you want a keeper like ederson Allison etc they cost a fortune. Not if you get them early Aye, we'll have to spend some money to win some competitions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: I mean I reckon it's obvious enough not to need explanation, but I'll humour you. Pope should only be upgraded for an elite keeper, that rules out the likes of Onana. An elite keeper will allow us to challenge for the title. That's why I'd go Trafford great with his feet and can improve under popey. Could be our very own elite keeper in a year or two for a good price. Edited May 13 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: I assumed he meant the one right at the end that secured the 0-0 that was right at him. Wasn’t from JM mind so maybe different saves. Good save, but he lets that in and we’re all asking questions Right at him? It was smashed at him he done brilliantly to keep it out. Very harsh you saying it was an expected safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 minutes ago, andycap said: Right at him? It was smashed at him he done brilliantly to keep it out. Very harsh you saying it was an expected safe. Remove the hugely important context and you’d never mention it again, man. It was a good save that a PL keeper needs to be making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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