Billy Warthog Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Think it's just a case of realising that the squad at this time is pretty much mid-table quality. Pretty potent attack, defence is a shadow of its former self. Therefore we'll drop a lot of points. We've won just about as many games as we've lost this season. Last season, we lost only 5. We may yet make some kind of European competition, but as others have pointed out, this summer must be used wisely. Can't repeat all this next season, especially the injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 We genuinely had probably 5 or more championship players out there at the end, never mind mid table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: With all due respect that's not really an answer to the problem I have with the performance. In fact it only highlights it more that we underperformed. You were questioning we didnt do enough to win. The numbers showed we did enough. It was a terrible team we put out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 When we played Bilbao pre season a year and a half ago, dummett was out of his depth then. Shocking that all that time later we are relying on the cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Agggghhhhhh, just got in and feel absolutely fucked off by that. Everton are such a shit team, yet they've got 4 points off us this season. We just never looked like we were going to make the game comfortable. No blame to anyone, just irritating when we are playing with half our squad unavailable, with that in mind I always thought this game was coming to soon We did like. We didn't take the piss but created enough to be 3 up at ht and the Isak miss in the 2nd half was a sickener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, madras said: We did like. We didn't take the piss but created enough to be 3 up at ht and the Isak miss in the 2nd half was a sickener. I never thought we weren’t going to win, although obviously I had the stereotypical ‘we need a second goal’ thoughts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Some of the reaction is unjustified in the circumstances even if we only deserved a draw - an upper midtable team chasing Europe drawing at home to one that basically a lower midtable side without the points deduction is hardly cause even with a full team out, it happens, a lot worse happens regularly. Just in tonights few games Wrexham lost at Doncaster, Wolves dropped points at Burnley and Fulham were well beaten at Forest - none of them should be losing their shit about it. And imho we deserved to be at least 2-0 up at HT Edited April 2 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Sounds like most agree with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, madras said: We did like. We didn't take the piss but created enough to be 3 up at ht and the Isak miss in the 2nd half was a sickener. Second half was poor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 annoyed with the result but not the performance can't ask much more from this group of players keeping in mind the Wham game must have been incredibly draining, then to lose Gordon along with 3 more injuries and another injury tonight of course had Gordon been available am absolutely certain it'd have been a comfortable win fuck this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I love Hall and Anderson man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 12 minutes ago, Jonas said: Some of the reaction is unjustified in the circumstances even if we only deserved a draw - an upper midtable team chasing Europe drawing at home to one that basically a lower midtable side without the points deduction is hardly cause even with a full team out, it happens, a lot worse happens regularly. Just in tonights few games Wrexham lost at Doncaster, Wolves dropped points at Burnley and Fulham were well beaten at Forest - none of them should be losing their shit about it. And imho we deserved to be at least 2-0 up at HT When I saw the line ups I'd said I'd be happy with a point. Ended being a bit pissed off we didn't win because overall we deserved it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 12 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: Second half was poor though. On seeing the line ups all us in the bar said its Dyche, try to hold on until the last 20 or 30, then knowing we couldn't change much, bring on the fresh legs of Calvert Lewin etc. Have to say I couldn't believe how shit they were. Dyche ball is as bad as Bruce ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 24 minutes ago, nufc123 said: You were questioning we didnt do enough to win. The numbers showed we did enough. It was a terrible team we put out. We underperformed our xG so we obviously didn't do enough did we? Even then it's the attitude towards the match I have a problem with more than anything. Edited April 2 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: We underperformed our xG so we obviously didn't do enough did we? Even then it's the attitude towards the match I have a problem with more than anything. We did enough to win the game under performed or not. Now you are just acting difficult. It wasnt a good game at all, but it was a weak team. Edited April 2 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 27 minutes ago, nufc123 said: We did enough to win the game under performed or not. Now you are just acting difficult. It wasnt a good game at all, but it was a weak team. I know it was a weak team, I'm just saying I don't think that's the reason we drew. If I was looking at that xG and thinking ah we just didn't take our chances, or we were unlucky then that's different. My issue is that we played in a very blasé kind of tomorrow will do way imo, which I think is unusual for us. Edited April 2 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Not seen any replays just seen the game in the stadium. But Everton were fucking shite all game. We were wasteful with our chances but nobody was bothered as there was no chance that they would ever score. No idea what happened with the penalty. But they are the worst team I've seen this season at SJP. Worse than Burnley, Fulham, Brentford and Palace and somehow the Scouse Mackems got a point, the fuckers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: I know it was a weak team, I'm just saying I don't think that's the reason we lost. If I was looking at that xG and thinking ah we just didn't take our chances, or we were unlucky then that's different. Wasnt that what happened really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 14 minutes ago, madras said: On seeing the line ups all us in the bar said its Dyche, try to hold on until the last 20 or 30, then knowing we couldn't change much, bring on the fresh legs of Calvert Lewin etc. Have to say I couldn't believe how shit they were. Dyche ball is as bad as Bruce ball. They are the blue Mackems. Somehow avoiding relegation each season with shit football and the odd lucky result. It will catch up in the end, it always does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Thought it was a good performance ruined by some poor finishing and Dummett’s Wrestlemania moment. Burn’s disallowed goal and them bringing in fresh legs to their midfield took some wind out of our sails and made it a bit iffy in the second half but felt we were still pretty comfortable before the penalty. Frustrating result but we win that 9 times out of 10 even with all the injuries. Burn was probably the MotM, was colossal. Wish we could give Longstaff a rest but doubt it happens this season, some of the crowd is really getting on his back and I can’t really fault them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Jonas said: Some of the reaction is unjustified in the circumstances even if we only deserved a draw - an upper midtable team chasing Europe drawing at home to one that basically a lower midtable side without the points deduction is hardly cause even with a full team out, it happens, a lot worse happens regularly. Just in tonights few games Wrexham lost at Doncaster, Wolves dropped points at Burnley and Fulham were well beaten at Forest - none of them should be losing their shit about it. And imho we deserved to be at least 2-0 up at HT This is where I'm at too. I feel folk rewrite the game as well based on the result. Everton did fuck all by and large, one chance where they hit the post and that was it. We hit the bar, had the ball in the net twice, one off the line and generally had them on the back foot most the game. They created virtually nowt. Dummett massively cost us with his stupidity. Just a personal gripe but I feel expectations have risen too quickly and feel folk are desperate to find scapegoats at present. Effort is no longer enough. People turn up to be entertained and are fans not supporters. Supporters support when the going gets tough. We fold like a pack of cards on 60mins every game and it reflects on the pitch, or vice versa. I'll put my tin hat on as everyone will no doubt say "we need quality to go to the next level", yada yada yada. We fucking cannot because of FFP. You get more flies with sugar than shit so we should be backing every one of these boys to the hilt. They've given us all these moments, from cup finals to derby wins to possibly one of the biggest victories in our entire history, but groan at Burn for not clearing the ball on the first bounce when he was nigh on immaculate, sigh every time Longstaff misplaced a difficult pass. Wey give owa man. What was that phrase "we don't demand a team that wins..." Edited April 2 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I know it was a weak team, I'm just saying I don't think that's the reason we lost. If I was looking at that xG and thinking ah we just didn't take our chances, or we were unlucky then that's different. My issue is that we played in a very blasé kind of tomorrow will do way imo, which I think is unusual for us. I thought it was always going to happen when they have fresh legs to bring on to their midfield against our lot who just played on Saturday and have literally one player on the bench who we can bring on. Just needed that second goal or Dummett not being stupid to take all 3 points. Incredibly frustrating result but I don’t think there was anything wrong with our performance as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 20 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Wasnt that what happened really? No mate, I'm just gaslighting myself for a laugh. Of course I think that's what happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Isak and Bruno must get pissed off with all their efforts going to waste. It's tonight's sort of fuck-up that could sew the seeds of possible summer moves to teams that might actually win things (or at least grind out results!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, Smal said: Tarkowski's header after 8 minutes (0.25xg) and Docoure after 43 minutes (0.12xg) were their only shots to register over 0.07xg in the game other than the penalty. The Garner shot which hit the post was a 0.04xg effort generated from very little tbh. Plus the one he put off the woodwork on his goal, that was a solid chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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