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I start to think Guehi would be as good as Van Dijk and lead us to champions, base on the comments here. If that’s the case just pay whatever Palace wants

 

 

And then what if he isn’t? 

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I think it’s woefully small time from Parish. I’d be equally disappointed if Eales was spouting off on SkySports or Talksport about specific players. 
 

I do wonder if his active dislike of our ownership is playing a part in this. 

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6 minutes ago, Zero said:

I start to think Guehi would be as good as Van Dijk and lead us to champions, base on the comments here. If that’s the case just pay whatever Palace wants

 

 

And then what if he isn’t? 

 

So what would you have us do?

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Just now, The Prophet said:

Personally I don't think Guehi is a £60 million player, but if he's the target the club have identified, I'll back them. They've not got much wrong in terms of incoming transfer business.

 

Is a perfectly reasonable position to take. :thup:

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6 minutes ago, Zero said:

I start to think Guehi would be as good as Van Dijk and lead us to champions, base on the comments here. If that’s the case just pay whatever Palace wants

 

 

And then what if he isn’t? 

 

I could see Liverpool looking at him as his replacement if we don't get him now..

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11 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

He’s never stood out to me, when I’ve seen him. Again I don’t think he’s bad but I don’t think he’s elite or has the potential to be so. 
 

I’m not sure what hype has to do with it mind, I’m one of the first to say I think Guehi is too expensive for us. 
 

I see this one of two ways personally from a FFP squad building composition. 
 

1: your going high for a Guehi type (if not better, your basically dislodging Schar and are willing to pay the premium to do so. 
 

2: your happy with Schar for this season and are looking for a player to come in with high ceiling to learn this season and really compete next season (think Tino, think Hall and think Gordon). 
 

This is how I think about it. 

 

Fair enough.

 

Just a difference of opinion then.

 

I think he's plenty good enough to eventually partner Botman.

 

Be interesting to see where he goes next and how he does.

 

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4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The closest statistical comparisons are Saliba and Gabriel apparently, so not bad. 


then did Arsenal buy so-called established English internationals at their peak value, or go for unearthed gems like Saliba and Gabriel a few years ago?

 

I understand the desperation and frustration but to say the club should increase the bid 

 

genuinely speaking, is fucking insane. For that price we basically gambled all our fortunes on him to be VVD, and I can’t imagine what if he failed to fit in or get a lengthy injury.

 

the only club that did this kind of deals, being a laughing stock, is Man Utd, e.g. Antony and Sancho. They all got lots of reasons to justify the ridiculous bid, and see what happens?

 

Another question is, if that’s the way to go, then why hire Mitchell? He won’t have money left to buy so-called unearthed gems anyway. All eggs in Guehi.

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9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I could see Liverpool looking at him as his replacement if we don't get him now..


Liverpool will only submit bid next year when his contract is only one year left, and he refuse to extend. They never make such kinda bid under FSG

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2 minutes ago, Zero said:


then did Arsenal buy so-called established English internationals at their peak value, or go for unearthed gems like Saliba and Gabriel a few years ago?

 

I understand the desperation and frustration but to say the club should increase the bid 

 

genuinely speaking, is fucking insane. For that price we basically gambled all our fortunes on him to be VVD, and I can’t imagine what if he failed to fit in or get a lengthy injury.

 

the only club that did this kind of deals, being a laughing stock, is Man Utd, e.g. Antony and Sancho. They all got lots of reasons to justify the ridiculous bid, and see what happens?

 

Another question is, if that’s the way to go, then why hire Mitchell? He won’t have money left to buy so-called unearthed gems anyway. All eggs in Guehi.

 

Which unearthed gem would you have us sign?

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4 minutes ago, STM said:

 

Which unearthed gem would you have us sign?

 

That’s Mitchell and the scouts job. They are hired / paid for that. If I can name you a player, he must be on the hot list of all the big clubs already, just like Yoro last year. The scouts job is to find them before they got famous to the level that even you and me know them 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Zero said:


then did Arsenal buy so-called established English internationals at their peak value, or go for unearthed gems like Saliba and Gabriel a few years ago?

 

I understand the desperation and frustration but to say the club should increase the bid 

 

genuinely speaking, is fucking insane. For that price we basically gambled all our fortunes on him to be VVD, and I can’t imagine what if he failed to fit in or get a lengthy injury.

 

the only club that did this kind of deals, being a laughing stock, is Man Utd, e.g. Antony and Sancho. They all got lots of reasons to justify the ridiculous bid, and see what happens?

 

Another question is, if that’s the way to go, then why hire Mitchell? He won’t have money left to buy so-called unearthed gems anyway. All eggs in Guehi.

 

They did pay a fortune for Ben White too.

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3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

They did pay a fortune for Ben White too.


They are a bit lucky on that deal. I don’t think he really performs up to his price, but fair enough.

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7 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:


Yes, name that unknown talent Zero or you are wrong!!!

 

But you do understand the irony right? 

 

Mitchell and Co are good enough at their job to go and identify targets but aren't good enough to choose which target to sign.:lol:

 

Reads rather stupid to me.

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15 minutes ago, Zero said:


then did Arsenal buy so-called established English internationals at their peak value, or go for unearthed gems like Saliba and Gabriel a few years ago?

 

I understand the desperation and frustration but to say the club should increase the bid 

 

genuinely speaking, is fucking insane. For that price we basically gambled all our fortunes on him to be VVD, and I can’t imagine what if he failed to fit in or get a lengthy injury.

 

the only club that did this kind of deals, being a laughing stock, is Man Utd, e.g. Antony and Sancho. They all got lots of reasons to justify the ridiculous bid, and see what happens?

 

Another question is, if that’s the way to go, then why hire Mitchell? He won’t have money left to buy so-called unearthed gems anyway. All eggs in Guehi.


I’m not arguing for increasing the bid, that’s up to the club. I’m just saying Guehi is a class player. 
 

Of course everyone would rather buy players cheap before they become sought-after, but I don’t think you can use that logic to say that any signing for big money is a bad idea. 
 

Liverpool were desperate for a defender, went out and paid massive money for VDV and won the league. 

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4 minutes ago, STM said:

 

But you do understand the irony right? 

 

Mitchell and Co are good enough at their job to go and identify targets but aren't good enough to choose which target to sign.:lol:

 

Reads rather stupid to me.


they need time to find and access targets right? Just less than 60 days on broad and you expect him to do a magic? 
 

What I see is everyone including you and, likely Howe, are putting pressure on the club to “ah I don’t care fuck it sign a marque star and all would be fine” without considering the consequence. 
 

take a look at the transfer record table, and think whether those transfers are hit or miss. And then think again those big clubs made those transfers back at the days with no FFP and PSR limit, while we just forced to sell two youngster or face point deductions 

 

just leave the table please.

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29 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Didn't realise Fulham had upped their bid for Anderson.

Yep, looks like as well as trying to get a better bid or other interest for Guehi, they're playing us off against Fulham. 

 

I expect these things happen all the time, just not so publicly. But, I don't know, maybe sometimes resorting to public comments is a sign you're in a bit of trouble.

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