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1 minute ago, Jaqen said:

 

Not being funny but our own fans spent years saying it was impossible to 'support the team without directly supporting the regime' and highlighting Mike Ashley's dodgy business practices and treatment of sports direct staff etc. Only to say it doesn't matter  that our now owners literally execute people for being gay as you can support the team without supporting the regime :lol:

 

If the Suadis ran us like Ashley people would have a problem with the fact we are a sportswashing operation for some of the most evil people in existence and suddenly that would all be highlighted but whilst they're pumping in all the money they can, making stadium plans etc nobody cares. Taking the moral high ground over what Guehi has done and calling him a hypocrite seems a bit daft in our position. 

 

 

The difference here is that none of our fans - to my knowledge - are claiming some sort of religious exemption to avoid supporting the team or regime or whatever. Bringing the religious aspect into this is where I am struggling. You are right that we are all hypocrites to a degree, though.

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2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

There is an absolute mountain of evidence for the big bang. I did my dissertation on it. Come at me. 

 

Red shifts, cosmic microwave background radiation. Inflation theory. There's been mountains of science done on it, each validating the previous work.

 

If you want to dispute the big bang, do you own science to disprove it, don't just yell "indoctrination" like some tin-hat wearing loon.

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12 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

Well, I don't judge people for having different opinions/beliefs. I think you're probably extremely indoctrinated that you believe in the big bang, but I wouldn't judge you for it, even if it sounds so far fetched 

 

Just asking like, do you think the earth is flat?

 

No real reason, just curious.

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2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

There is an absolute mountain of evidence for the big bang. I did my dissertation on it. Come at me. 

 

Red shifts, cosmic microwave background radiation. Inflation theory. There's been mountains of science done on it, each validating the previous work.

 

If you want to dispute the big bang, do you own science to disprove it, don't just yell "indoctrination" like some tin-hat wearing loon.

Well, I believe the bible, that God created us and not a completely random event that created a whole system which worked in perfect tandem, and a body that can heal itself and have stuff like emotion and such like. I believe in a creator, you believe in a complete fluke by the looks of things, but that's fine. I can't disprove you, and you'll never take away my faith

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Just now, Bimpy474 said:

 

Just asking like, do you think the earth is flat?

 

No real reason, just curious.

I believe we live under a firmament, as per the bible, yes, and as per many documents by the fbi, living on a flat, non-rotational earth. Don't judge me

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Just now, Pablo123 said:

Well, I believe the bible, that God created us and not a completely random event that created a whole system which worked in perfect tandem, and a body that can heal itself and have stuff like emotion and such like. I believe in a creator, you believe in a complete fluke by the looks of things, but that's fine. I can't disprove you, and you'll never take away my faith

 

 

When he created the universe and the billions and billions of planets, how many did he populate? Any thinking human probably wouldn't answer "one".

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I'm sure Guehi will come out with a statement tomorrow saying that he doesn't want any gay players in the sport. After all, he clearly wanted to tell the world that, and he wasn't worried about going public with it. Waiting for the statement now.

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Just now, McDog said:

 

 

When he created the universe and the billions and billions of planets, how many did he populate? Any thinking human probably wouldn't answer "one".

But he never said he populated other planets. Not once 

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Just now, Pablo123 said:

Well, I believe the bible, that God created us and not a completely random event that created a whole system which worked in perfect tandem, and a body that can heal itself and have stuff like emotion and such like. I believe in a creator, you believe in a complete fluke by the looks of things, but that's fine. I can't disprove you, and you'll never take away my faith

 

Of course you can't disprove me, because I can literally prove the big bang happened. I can do the maths. I can talk you through any aspect you disagree with. I've actually researched this as part of my physics degree. 

 

You've picked the wrong example I'm afraid. 

 

The big bang happened.  It happened 13.8 billion years ago. We can even still hear it (Google Penzias and Wilson). It is beyond any scientific doubt.

 

All you can possibly argue is "well maybe God started it?" but that's genuinely all you've got.

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3 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

I believe we live under a firmament, as per the bible, yes, and as per many documents by the fbi, living on a flat, non-rotational earth. Don't judge me

 

Mate I love you, but you are utterly mental.

 

However, I respect that, all power to you and your beliefs. 

 

Not that it matters, but I have a telescope.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

I believe we live under a firmament, as per the bible, yes, and as per many documents by the fbi, living on a flat, non-rotational earth. Don't judge me

 

Oh my fucking god. I'll absolutely judge you. Sorry I can't debate anything with you anymore, I'm out. You're clearly either a troll, or completely incapable of rational thought and discourse.

 

Have a nice day.

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18 minutes ago, Memphis said:

 

This is a strange response. It's a pretty simple thing. Captains being asked to wear the armband to show support for LGBTQ athletes. Why would you not want to? 

Because I cannot be arsed with these wrongthink litmus tests anymore, and people bending themselves into pretzels in order to sling shit across the table.

 

Somehow you are allowed to be a hypocrite but Guehi isn't? He absolutely doesn't want gay men in football because he wrote I Love Jesus on a pride flag? You know this.

 

How can anyone be fucked with  this man?

 

 

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Just now, Chris_R said:

 

Of course you can't disprove me, because I can literally prove the big bang happened. I can do the maths. I can talk you through any aspect you disagree with. I've actually researched this as part of my physics degree. 

 

You've picked the wrong example I'm afraid. 

 

The big bang happened.  It happened 13.8 billion years ago. We can even still hear it (Google Penzias and Wilson). It is beyond any scientific doubt.

 

All you can possibly argue is "well maybe God started it?" but that's genuinely all you've got.

I don't believe you, mate. How don't you know it was 12.9 million years ago? It's fine to believe in what you want you want, even if the truth will shatter your beliefs

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10 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

Well, I believe the bible, that God created us and not a completely random event that created a whole system which worked in perfect tandem, and a body that can heal itself and have stuff like emotion and such like. I believe in a creator, you believe in a complete fluke by the looks of things, but that's fine. I can't disprove you, and you'll never take away my faith


I was a pediatric nurse in an ICU. If there is a God, then based on what I have seen - in just one job, in just one place - he/she/it is an evil, vindictive cunt. No dissertation involved, just watching children die in unbearable agony. And if you believe the Bible then (predictably, but it still holds) talk me through Leviticus.

 

Edit: sorry, this isn’t the place, sure there’s a thread somewhere.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Pablo123 said:

Well, I believe the bible, that God created us and not a completely random event that created a whole system which worked in perfect tandem, and a body that can heal itself and have stuff like emotion and such like. I believe in a creator, you believe in a complete fluke by the looks of things, but that's fine. I can't disprove you, and you'll never take away my faith

 

The Guehi thread has really evolved even further since the summer! The saga continues..

 

 

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