gjohnson Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: You can’t have seen Kelly play if you think he has no pace. Burn has been brilliant at CB as well. No, you are right I havent, but I've seen enough of Burn and Krafth to know they can be effective in the centre while at the same time capable of making mistakes Bramble would have been embarrassed by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: No, you are right I havent, but I've seen enough of Burn and Krafth to know they can be effective in the centre while at the same time capable of making mistakes Bramble would have been embarrassed by God that's overstepping the mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: No, you are right I havent, but I've seen enough of Burn and Krafth to know they can be effective in the centre while at the same time capable of making mistakes Bramble would have been embarrassed by What games have they played at CB that they have made these mistakes? Genuinely can’t remember them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Last season there we were at our lowest in terms of injuries, think we even picked some more up during the game. We’re better, just need to get our performance right and the result follows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 15 minutes ago, 80 said: And in spite of all of that, we should be looking to win. As I said before, a draw is a totally believable result, but it shouldn't be a cause for joy. It doesn't mean we should lose the plot if we draw either, but we shouldn't lower our standards if we want to do anything this season. Fully agree man. We have all the tools and expertise to win. I'd be fuming if we wasn't going for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 17 minutes ago, Stifler said: Despite that I still think we are capable of winning down there. I don’t think Bournemouth are all that to be honest, they will certainly finish in the bottom half of the league. Regardless, I still think the minimum expectation should be a win. We definitely can win and should be aiming for it. We have plenty of match winners. I just can see how it might not turn out to be our day, purely because defensively we've not got our best available, and because we seem to lack a but of energy and sharpness against Southampton. Could all easily be disproven with a solid win, would be great to keep that winning momentum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, gjohnson said: No, you are right I havent, but I've seen enough of Burn and Krafth to know they can be effective in the centre while at the same time capable of making mistakes Bramble would have been embarrassed by Burn has basically been imperious anytime he's played CB for the club, and Krafth solid under Howe. Weird statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, 54 said: Burn has basically been imperious anytime he's played CB for the club, and Krafth solid under Howe. Weird statement. I dont recall specific games, but theres countless examples of Burn passing the ball straight out of play under no pressure, and probably just as many of both him and Krafth completely losing markers and following the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 minute ago, gjohnson said: I dont recall specific games, but theres countless examples of Burn passing the ball straight out of play under no pressure, and probably just as many of both him and Krafth completely losing markers and following the ball. So not mistakes Bramble would be embarrassed by ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 3 minutes ago, gjohnson said: I dont recall specific games, but theres countless examples of Burn passing the ball straight out of play under no pressure, and probably just as many of both him and Krafth completely losing markers and following the ball. Yeah, Burn may not be a great passer of the ball, but that doesn't make him a "Bramble esc defender". His stats compared to CB's are actually quality: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: So not mistakes Bramble would be embarrassed by ? Well to be fair Bramble never looked embarrassed after a howler. Just stood there looking gormless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 4 minutes ago, 54 said: Yeah, Burn may not be a great passer of the ball, but that doesn't make him a "Bramble esc defender". His stats compared to CB's are actually quality: Not arguing he can't be decent, but are you genuinely confident and not remotely worried when a half decent/quick player is against him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 5 minutes ago, gjohnson said: Not arguing he can't be decent, but are you genuinely confident and not remotely worried when a half decent/quick player is against him? I can't remember a time when it been an issue every time he's played CB, LB it happened, but not CB. So i'm fine with it, especially since he's been utter quality since he went to CB last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 16 minutes ago, 54 said: I can't remember a time when it been an issue every time he's played CB, LB it happened, but not CB. So i'm fine with it, especially since he's been utter quality since he went to CB last season. Well having just watched Aliens...in the words of Ripley. I hope you're right....I really do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 2 year ago this was the sort of game we were drawing because we couldn't put teams to bed. A season ago we were losing these due to the injuries. We'll have a good idea where we are after this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Isak to be an absolute menace to their defence, someone's getting embarrassed I can feel it. 0 - 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 22 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: 2 year ago this was the sort of game we were drawing because we couldn't put teams to bed. A season ago we were losing these due to the injuries. We'll have a good idea where we are after this. We’ll be returning home with another three points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 9 minutes ago, BonesJones said: Isak to be an absolute menace to their defence, someone's getting embarrassed I can feel it. 0 - 4. They are a decent side. It'll be closer than that. Also, we are missing our 2 first choice centrebacks away. I think it will most likely be Krafth and Burn at CB. Tbf though they were great against Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised to see a back three of Kelly, Burn and Krafthinio. It would make sense too as Hall looked a bit vulnerable and I think Tino and Krafth could be got at. Edited August 23 by Geordie_once_removed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonesJones Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 20 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: They are a decent side. It'll be closer than that. Also, we are missing our 2 first choice centrebacks away. I think it will most likely be Krafth and Burn at CB. Tbf though they were great against Southampton. Not doubting we're up against a decent side. Just backing Isak and co to fuck them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Must have been a while since we won our opening two prem games ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, hakka said: We definitely can win and should be aiming for it. We have plenty of match winners. I just can see how it might not turn out to be our day, purely because defensively we've not got our best available, and because we seem to lack a but of energy and sharpness against Southampton. Could all easily be disproven with a solid win, would be great to keep that winning momentum. We will blow these away. However, the score will not reflect that. 1-2, guaranteed win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpawel Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 10 minutes ago, Geordie_once_removed said: I wouldn't be surprised to see a back three of Kelly, Burn and Krafthinio. It would make sense too as Hall looked a bit vulnerable and I think Tino and Krafth could be got at. I don't think Tino can be 'got at', think he is excellent 1v1, has great recovery pace, tall etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 Tino is immense, he’ll be the best right back in the league within the next two seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 23 Share Posted August 23 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: I dont recall specific games, but theres countless examples of Burn passing the ball straight out of play under no pressure, and probably just as many of both him and Krafth completely losing markers and following the ball. I'm sure that you are just making these comments up. Very rarely have I witnessed what you are claiming. You do watch our games I take it and not listening to RTG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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