Yoane Wissa

[PauloGeordio]

9 minutes ago, Palestoon said:

 

Agree 100 percent. But we are in a position right now to fight back. 

 

Im still waiting for a reason why one of these scenarios is not the best course of action.

 

A. Keep Isak and sign an experienced back up (Wissa)

 

B. Keep Isak and sign his successor (Sesko)

 

Sell him next season once we're actually prepared for his departure.

 

He's not going to sit out the season, he's not going to cause chaos in the dressing room. He will still be considered a world class forward next summer.

Spend some money now knowing we’re selling next summer: Wissa, Sesko, Gallagher or Paqueta, Guehi or Scalvini. I’d love both midfielders.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Fentimans all the way! Quality over quantity.

I'm a cheap skate, I'll stick to the quid specials plus Barrs is decent

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by et tu brute

[Palestoon]

2 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said:

Spend some money now knowing we’re selling next summer: Wissa, Sesko, Gallagher or Paqueta, Guehi or Scalvini. I’d love both midfielders.

 

Exactly, use the situation to our advantage now. Use the money to get in a few big peices AND keep isak. Try to go for it now and have another big successful season to further cement ourselves. It's puts us in the best position now, and in the long term

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Palestoon

[Gawalls]

2 hours ago, Rod said:

Laws in Gateshead High Street?

Think it was yes

[Teslact]

3 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Sarsaparilla too. Delicious. 

 

3 hours ago, andycap said:

Used to be alpine that delivered the fizzy pop round my way in the 80's.

 

Was Villa here, then Sykes (I think, definitely remember they were from Ryhope) when Villa stopped delivery. Villa's Sarsaparilla was the best.

[et tu brute]

Are people actually wanting Wissa? Hypocrisy at its finest if you do. Cry's of get rid of Isak, yet this player is just as bad if not worse. With also including his age and Brentford's valuation, it's a definite no from me. 

[TRon]

Just now, et tu brute said:

Are people actually wanting Wissa? Hypocrisy at its finest if you do. Cry's of get rid of Isak, yet this player is just as bad if not worse. With also including his age and Brentford's valuation, it's a definite no from me. 

 

 

Not hypocrisy from me. I want to keep Isak and buy Wissa. Players agitating for more money is part of the game, it's not exclusive to us. 

[HayDen Traces]

I hope we get Wissa and Sesko and Isak leaves on terms that are what our club wants.

I just think keeping Isak in the dressing room is a distraction we don't need if we can help it.

[Gawalls]

9 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Are people actually wanting Wissa? Hypocrisy at its finest if you do. Cry's of get rid of Isak, yet this player is just as bad if not worse. With also including his age and Brentford's valuation, it's a definite no from me. 

I admit I’m a hypocrite, want him and couldn’t give a fuck, difference is we did is with decency I reckon as we put a bid in and just left it, no snide stories to the press or whatever we just stepped away and let it be, sick of us doing this properly and getting shit on by other clubs whose selling hotels, women’s teams, a billion in debt and running to the press. If getting a proven premier league goal scorer for a price that suits us (we’ll never pay 50 mil) so it prolongs our long term issues for a couple of years then I’m fine with that.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Gawalls

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

 

Not hypocrisy from me. I want to keep Isak and buy Wissa. Players agitating for more money is part of the game, it's not exclusive to us. 

No I was just pointing out for the ones who are wanting Isak gone and having Wissa as the back up. I'd rather have Isak and Šeško. I'm pretty confident that is what will happen also IF Šeško does come here. The Saudis won't be bullied by any fucker and will insist on the £150 million plus. Time will tell though and should be clearer this week

[TRon]

1 minute ago, et tu brute said:

No I was just pointing out for the ones who are wanting Isak gone and having Wissa as the back up. I'd rather have Isak and Šeško. I'm pretty confident that is what will happen also IF Šeško does come here. The Saudis won't be bullied by any fucker and will insist on the £150 million plus. Time will tell though and should be clearer this week

 

That would be my preference as well. But I will happily take Isak and Wissa as our strike force for next season if Sesko decides to go to Man U. I've consistently said on here that we should not accept less than £150m for Isak, and preferably just tell Liverpool to do one, he's not for sale. I'm hoping behind the scenes that is the stance of the owners. 

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

I think perhaps the original plan was to keep Isak and also bring in another top talent to play with or rotate with him (Ekitike) but now things have shifted and I think the writing is on the wall Isak goes in this window, as soon as we bring in that top talent. Wissa would be the rotating option now.

 

I just can't see a world where Isak stays if we do that business, it's just not going to happen no matter how much we might want it to.

 

If we do get Sesko and Wissa and £150 million for Isak and get a CB and CM/AM x2 I personally think overall we will be better off for it.

[et tu brute]

24 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

I admit I’m a hypocrite, want him and couldn’t give a fuck, difference is we did is with decency I reckon as we put a bid in and just left it, no snide stories to the press or whatever we just stepped away and let it be, sick up us doing this properly and getting shit on by other clubs whose selling hotels, women’s teams, a billion in debt and running to the press. If getting a proven premier league goal scorer for a price that suits us (we’ll never pay 50 mil) so it prolongs our long term issues for a couple of years then I’m fine with that.

It's only the top six paid press and some of our local reporters (who I don't take much notice of anyway), who are still putting out the Wissa stuff. Brentford proved with Mbuemo they won't budge on a price either. There has been no indication whatsoever that they will change their price and that we will go any higher also. It will be the same with Isak as we won't lower our price either. 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by et tu brute

[Displayname]

Accepting that a new girlfriend has cheated in her past relationship is different than accepting your wife cheating on you. 

Its human.

 

I want people who wants to play for us, and its not like its a risk that Wissa would want bigger and better things later.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Displayname

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

I think perhaps the original plan was to keep Isak and also bring in another top talent to play with or rotate with him (Ekitike) but now things have shifted and I think the writing is on the wall Isak goes in this window, as soon as we bring in that top talent. Wissa would be the rotating option now.

 

I just can't see a world where Isak stays if we do that business, it's just not going to happen no matter how much we might want it to.

 

If we do get Sesko and Wissa and £150 million for Isak and get a CB and CM/AM x2 I personally think overall we will be better off for it.

No we won't, because we have given him to a rival who also poached our top target, and who has likely acted less than ethical for this while saga. This would be a terrible move on our part, and demonstrate to the world that we are nothing more than a farm for the bigger PL clubs.

[Gawalls]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

It's only the top six paid press and some of our local reporters (who I don't take much

notice of anyway), who are still putting out the Wissa stuff. Brentford proved with Mbuemo they won't budge on a price either. There has been no indication whatsoever that they will change their price and that we will go any higher also. It will be the same with Isak as we won't lower our price either. 

Apparently they’ve already been in touch with Arsenal for a striker and reports are they’ll reluctantly sell him, look I get you don’t want him and that’s cool as we all have opinions and that’s yours, my opinion is I want him so just be good with that as I am with your opinion.

[Vinny Green Balls]

2 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Accepting that a new girlfriend has cheated in her past relationship is different than accepting your wife cheating on you. 

Its human.

I get what you're saying, but frankly I don't think that this metaphor works particularly well, and I keep seeing it come up. Football is a vocation, not some lifelong commitment. If Isak comes to his senses, and the players and coach are ok with him, then I don't see any issue with welcoming him back to the fold.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

I think perhaps the original plan was to keep Isak and also bring in another top talent to play with or rotate with him (Ekitike) but now things have shifted and I think the writing is on the wall Isak goes in this window, as soon as we bring in that top talent. Wissa would be the rotating option now.

 

I just can't see a world where Isak stays if we do that business, it's just not going to happen no matter how much we might want it to.

 

If we do get Sesko and Wissa and £150 million for Isak and get a CB and CM/AM x2 I personally think overall we will be better off for it.

I can't see Liverpool offering £150 million plus (you don't go from £110 million to £150 million plus) and I can't see us paying Brentford's value either. Brentford didn't budge an inch for Man U with Mbeumo. Time will tell though

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

No we won't, because we have given him to a rival who also poached our top target, and who has likely acted less than ethical for this while saga. This would be a terrible move on our part, and demonstrate to the world that we are nothing more than a farm for the bigger PL clubs.

I get that it's unsavoury and god I hate that we would be selling to those pricks, but he doesn't want to be here and considering his conduct won't be giving his all for us, especially if he's forced to stay.

 

It's not like we're a feeder club constantly selling our best players to the "elite" clubs like Brighton do, we need to maximise the money we can make on this deal as much as we can and make it work for us with an overall better team and squad.

 

The club need to do the work behind the scenes and Eddie needs to keep delivering on the pitch to make sure this sort of thing never or very rarely ever happens again, and by that I mean delivering on transfers, maximising our revenue and making us a bigger and better brand, while Eddie does the business on the pitch and keeps us competing at a high level and eventually bridge that gap.

[et tu brute]

5 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

Apparently they’ve already been in touch with Arsenal for a striker and reports are they’ll reluctantly sell him, look I get you don’t want him and that’s cool as we all have opinions and that’s yours, my opinion is I want him so just be good with that as I am with your opinion.

Or maybe they're just looking to replace Mbuemo? I'm all for opinions, but the indication is that Brentford don't bend over either. We can only wait and see how though 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by et tu brute

[Displayname]

7 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

I get what you're saying, but frankly I don't think that this metaphor works particularly well, and I keep seeing it come up. Football is a vocation, not some lifelong commitment. If Isak comes to his senses, and the players and coach are ok with him, then I don't see any issue with welcoming him back to the fold.

I think its an allright metaphor. Hypocrisy would be saying that Isak is a bad guy and not the same about Wissa(if the circumstances were the same, which im not really sure about).

 

I just want players who wants to play for us.

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

I think its an allright metaphor. Hypocrisy would be saying that Isak is a bad guy and not the same about Wissa(if the circumstances were the same, which im not really sure about).

 

I just want players who wants to play for us.

Agreed with everything else but the metaphor. But I also want our club to not accept being bullied. There are elements other than Isak here.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Vinny Green Balls

[Displayname]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Agreed with everything else but the metaphor. But I also want our club to not accept being bullied. There are elements other than Isak here.

 

 

 

I agree with that. Only sell Isak at our valuation, no discount.

Rather see him here a year than give Liverpool a good deal after this summer.

[Palestoon]

25 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said:

I get that it's unsavoury and god I hate that we would be selling to those pricks, but he doesn't want to be here and considering his conduct won't be giving his all for us, especially if he's forced to stay.

 

It's not like we're a feeder club constantly selling our best players to the "elite" clubs like Brighton do, we need to maximise the money we can make on this deal as much as we can and make it work for us with an overall better team and squad.

 

The club need to do the work behind the scenes and Eddie needs to keep delivering on the pitch to make sure this sort of thing never or very rarely ever happens again, and by that I mean delivering on transfers, maximising our revenue and making us a bigger and better brand, while Eddie does the business on the pitch and keeps us competing at a high level and eventually bridge that gap.

 

Why not do that next summer?

We keep Isak for another season

 

Bring in his replacement as an understudy/back up.

 

Prepare during the season for our plans with the money with a new CEO and director of football in place.

 

Why are we bending to liverpools and Isaks will right now? What benefit is in that for us to make rushed decisions in a summer that has clearly proven we weren't ready for? 

[HayDen Traces]

1 minute ago, Palestoon said:

 

Why not do that next summer?

We keep Isak for another season

 

Bring in his replacement as an understudy/back up.

 

Prepare during the season for our plans with the money with a new CEO and director of football in place.

 

Why are we bending to liverpools and Isaks will right now? What benefit is in that for us to make rushed decisions in a summer that has clearly proven we weren't ready for? 

I also think that if we let Isak go this summer it sets a dangerous precedent both with our rivals (who think they can nick our best players when they want) & our existing squad (who can stamp their feet and agitate for a move)