LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 i think u may be right about the banks thing, i got told that northern rock payed for owen supposedly anyways I can't believe that is true. I'd like to see the bank board justify to the shareholders why £16 million had been given to Newcastle United to buy a 'special' player. It wouldn't matter to the bank what Newcastle wanted the money for, banks don't give £16 million away. If it was lent it still wouldn't matter to the bank what Newcastle wanted the money for. All the bank would be interested in is when they would be paid back and what the interest rate was. Northern Rock is the shirt sponsor but Barclays bank are NUFC's bankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 id have beattie, wouldnt want to pay over 3-4 mill for him though I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Aye, because he's never reproduced it. For the reasons quoted above. With Milner, Dyer, Nobby, Emre, Duff etc creating chances for him. He'd score goals with a doubt. He doesn't get that at Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 id have beattie, wouldnt want to pay over 3-4 mill for him though I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Aye, because he's never reproduced it. For the reasons quoted above. With Milner, Dyer, Nobby, Emre, Duff etc creating chances for him. He'd score goals with a doubt. He doesn't get that at Everton. True, and the fact that he's shite as well doesn't help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 In regards to the original idea for the thread, that Pierre Boya is still on trial isnt he? Unless I have missed something he could well be the first signing, doubt he would be here this long if he hasn't impressed... Pretty sure he has returned to Partizan Belgrade after about 2 weeks on trial. Taken from ICNewcastle: - "Cameroon striker Pierre Boya has been on trial with the club this week and Roeder has not closed the door on the 22-year-old joining in the January transfer window. Boya has been playing for Partizan Belgrade since 2004 but is currently out of favour. He played just two of the club's eight Uefa Cup games this season, failing to score in either. "He's done alright," is as much as Roeder was prepared to say on the matter. "I'm not saying we're going to sign him but we're definitely not going to kill it either. We'll make a few discreet enquiries." "The club have also had Cameroon striker Pierre Boya on trial and could sell Emre to Bayern Munich to help fund their winter rebuilding." Ah right, I missed that so I assumed he was still here. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Everton have never played in a style or system to suit him. I think they've treat him a bit like we did Kluivert. He didn't arrive in the best of nick physically and didn't hit the ground running. Moyes lost faith. Simple as really. Kluivert was crap at the clubs he went to after us. He was also crap at Barcelona in the season before he came to us and their fans hated him. Conclusion? He was crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 In regards to the original idea for the thread, that Pierre Boya is still on trial isnt he? Unless I have missed something he could well be the first signing, doubt he would be here this long if he hasn't impressed... Pretty sure he has returned to Partizan Belgrade after about 2 weeks on trial. Taken from ICNewcastle: - "Cameroon striker Pierre Boya has been on trial with the club this week and Roeder has not closed the door on the 22-year-old joining in the January transfer window. Boya has been playing for Partizan Belgrade since 2004 but is currently out of favour. He played just two of the club's eight Uefa Cup games this season, failing to score in either. "He's done alright," is as much as Roeder was prepared to say on the matter. "I'm not saying we're going to sign him but we're definitely not going to kill it either. We'll make a few discreet enquiries." "The club have also had Cameroon striker Pierre Boya on trial and could sell Emre to Bayern Munich to help fund their winter rebuilding." Ah right, I missed that so I assumed he was still here. Cheers DEEERRRRRR BRAIN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Didn't Robson ask for Miguel and we got Carr? Bottomless pit of money obsession again. He also wanted Carr, and was given the money to buy Milner, Butt and pay the wages to Kluivert. Its called a budget. Macbeth and his monkey will explain the concept when he comes back as he surely will soon now the team has lost a couple of games, to tell you that we didn't even have the money for Carr never mind Miguel. The shite board spent millions before and after that summer. Damned if they spend, damned if they don't, as usual. We couldn't afford another £3 million for Miguel but at the same time we could afford to bid £23 million for Rooney? I was under the impression the Rooney bid was to be funded from some kind of special package via Banks that was available only for this special player. That's what I heard anyway, so don't ask me for a link and I'm not saying it is a fact. It is speculation. i was more under the impression that we "wouldn't" go another £3mill for miguel as opposed to couldn't. i think u may be right about the banks thing, i got told that northern rock payed for owen supposedly anyways pretty sure the transfer was accounted for in the clubs accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Everton have never played in a style or system to suit him. I think they've treat him a bit like we did Kluivert. He didn't arrive in the best of nick physically and didn't hit the ground running. Moyes lost faith. Simple as really. Kluivert was crap at the clubs he went to after us. He was also crap at Barcelona in the season before he came to us and their fans hated him. Conclusion? He was crap. Kluivert wasn't crap, he was a better footballer than Alan Shearer, he just gave up and couldn't be arsed to fill his potential or even keep up a good standard of fitness. Too much money ruined him, but like he gives a shit, and that's the problem with Kluivert, he just didn't and its ruined his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Beattie's scoring record is abysmal, and he's nearly 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Kluivert wasn't crap, he was a better footballer than Alan Shearer, he just gave up and couldn't be arsed to fill his potential or even keep up a good standard of fitness. Too much money ruined him, but like he gives a shit, and that's the problem with Kluivert, he just didn't and its ruined his career. I didn't mean he was always crap, but he was by the time he got to us for the reasons you mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Transfer window been open for over 15 minutes and no new signings. Acceptable, or not? It looks like it's going to drag on once again, we'll never learn. just like the good old days eh. we might sign someone from Oxford as we are no different to then :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 James Beattie stats: http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/6124.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thompers Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Transfer window been open for over 15 minutes and no new signings. Acceptable, or not? It looks like it's going to drag on once again, we'll never learn. just like the good old days eh. we might sign someone from Oxford as we are no different to then :lol: And what would be wrong with signing someone from Oxford? Not enough of an "omg we just signed a world class playa" trophy signing? I'd rather us sign a promising Oxford youngster than an over-the-hill Barcelona or Chelsea reject living on reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Didn't Robson ask for Miguel and we got Carr? Bottomless pit of money obsession again. He also wanted Carr, and was given the money to buy Milner, Butt and pay the wages to Kluivert. Its called a budget. Macbeth and his monkey will explain the concept when he comes back as he surely will soon now the team has lost a couple of games, to tell you that we didn't even have the money for Carr never mind Miguel. The shite board spent millions before and after that summer. Damned if they spend, damned if they don't, as usual. We couldn't afford another £3 million for Miguel but at the same time we could afford to bid £23 million for Rooney? 8m - 2.5m = 5.5m If you prefer the shite board not to buy top quality England players and prefer them to buy the likes of Jonathon Stead, you might just get your wish one day. I am still waiting for people like you to tell us who these directors are that are going to guarantee us permanent Champions League football, as only 4 clubs have qualified more for europe than us in the past decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Transfer window been open for over 15 minutes and no new signings. Acceptable, or not? It looks like it's going to drag on once again, we'll never learn. just like the good old days eh. we might sign someone from Oxford as we are no different to then :lol: And what would be wrong with signing someone from Oxford? Not enough of an "omg we just signed a world class playa" trophy signing? I'd rather us sign a promising Oxford youngster than an over-the-hill Barcelona or Chelsea reject living on reputation. i'd rather sign the player i thought was best for us.where from doesn't matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Kluivert wasn't crap, he was a better footballer than Alan Shearer, he just gave up and couldn't be arsed to fill his potential or even keep up a good standard of fitness. Too much money ruined him, but like he gives a shit, and that's the problem with Kluivert, he just didn't and its ruined his career. I didn't mean he was always crap, but he was by the time he got to us for the reasons you mentioned. Him and Bellamy would have been a good partnership if it was for the fact that Robson was pressured to start Shearer all of the time. Kluivert was unlucky that Shearer was still just about good enough when he arrived. I don't think he was particularly motivated by the fact he knew he would end up on the bench no matter how well he performed in training. Anyway, to all of those slating Beattie, you need to remember just where our club is these days. We are not a top four side and we are not going to break the bank on a world class forward. IF the board haven't learnt anything from some of the buys made over the last few seasons they should be shot. He's low risk with a point to prove, yet we know he CAN handle the premiership. Can Nugent? Can Eastwood? Fuck knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 well looks like we ahve missed out on ade akinbyi, just signed for Burnley.......God Dam it lol he's not a "trophy player" though, and thickmick would welcome signings like this, just like the good old days when we had a board just the same as the current one, according to him :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thompers Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Didn't Robson ask for Miguel and we got Carr? Bottomless pit of money obsession again. He also wanted Carr, and was given the money to buy Milner, Butt and pay the wages to Kluivert. Its called a budget. Macbeth and his monkey will explain the concept when he comes back as he surely will soon now the team has lost a couple of games, to tell you that we didn't even have the money for Carr never mind Miguel. The shite board spent millions before and after that summer. Damned if they spend, damned if they don't, as usual. We couldn't afford another £3 million for Miguel but at the same time we could afford to bid £23 million for Rooney? 8m - 2.5m = 5.5m If you prefer the shite board not to buy top quality England players and prefer them to buy the likes of Jonathon Stead, you might just get your wish one day. I am still waiting for people like you to tell us who these directors are that are going to guarantee us permanent Champions League football, as only 4 clubs have qualified more for europe than us in the past decade. Qualifying for europe is seen as an achievement at a football club because it provides money to spend to go on and win cups. Therefore, if only 4 clubs in a decade have qualified more than us, then surely we should be one of the best equipped clubs to go on and win things. Why haven't we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I agree. He'd be a cracking buy for the right price. People seem to have quickly forgot his Southampton form. Everton have never played in a style or system to suit him. I think they've treat him a bit like we did Kluivert. He didn't arrive in the best of nick physically and didn't hit the ground running. Moyes lost faith. Simple as really. Kluivert was crap at the clubs he went to after us. He was also crap at Barcelona in the season before he came to us and their fans hated him. Conclusion? He was crap. Kluivert wasn't crap, he was a better footballer than Alan Shearer, he just gave up and couldn't be arsed to fill his potential or even keep up a good standard of fitness. IN other words, he was crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Transfer window been open for over 15 minutes and no new signings. Acceptable, or not? It looks like it's going to drag on once again, we'll never learn. just like the good old days eh. we might sign someone from Oxford as we are no different to then :lol: And what would be wrong with signing someone from Oxford? Not enough of an "omg we just signed a world class playa" trophy signing? I'd rather us sign a promising Oxford youngster than an over-the-hill Barcelona or Chelsea reject living on reputation. you should support the mackems, it would fulfill your dreams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Him and Bellamy would have been a good partnership if it was for the fact that Robson was pressured to start Shearer all of the time. Kluivert was unlucky that Shearer was still just about good enough when he arrived. I don't think he was particularly motivated by the fact he knew he would end up on the bench no matter how well he performed in training. I'd take your point on Kluivert if he'd done well after leaving Newcastle but he didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Didn't Robson ask for Miguel and we got Carr? Bottomless pit of money obsession again. He also wanted Carr, and was given the money to buy Milner, Butt and pay the wages to Kluivert. Its called a budget. Macbeth and his monkey will explain the concept when he comes back as he surely will soon now the team has lost a couple of games, to tell you that we didn't even have the money for Carr never mind Miguel. The shite board spent millions before and after that summer. Damned if they spend, damned if they don't, as usual. We couldn't afford another £3 million for Miguel but at the same time we could afford to bid £23 million for Rooney? 8m - 2.5m = 5.5m If you prefer the shite board not to buy top quality England players and prefer them to buy the likes of Jonathon Stead, you might just get your wish one day. I am still waiting for people like you to tell us who these directors are that are going to guarantee us permanent Champions League football, as only 4 clubs have qualified more for europe than us in the past decade. Iwas refering to us supposedly offering £5 million but they were holding out for £8 million. I'm not even the slightest bit interested in reading the rest of waffle you've come out with about directors as it has nothing to do with this thread. A new year but same old repetitive shite from Leazes bluesleep.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 James Beattie stats: http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/6124.html Cheers Gejon. I hadn't seen that. Basically a one goal every 3 games or so Centre Forward then? Doesn't put me off. He's never had the type of service we could give him and those stats (for a third choice forward which is what he'd be next season) are good IMHO. A damn good investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Didn't Robson ask for Miguel and we got Carr? Bottomless pit of money obsession again. He also wanted Carr, and was given the money to buy Milner, Butt and pay the wages to Kluivert. Its called a budget. Macbeth and his monkey will explain the concept when he comes back as he surely will soon now the team has lost a couple of games, to tell you that we didn't even have the money for Carr never mind Miguel. The shite board spent millions before and after that summer. Damned if they spend, damned if they don't, as usual. We couldn't afford another £3 million for Miguel but at the same time we could afford to bid £23 million for Rooney? 8m - 2.5m = 5.5m If you prefer the shite board not to buy top quality England players and prefer them to buy the likes of Jonathon Stead, you might just get your wish one day. I am still waiting for people like you to tell us who these directors are that are going to guarantee us permanent Champions League football, as only 4 clubs have qualified more for europe than us in the past decade. Qualifying for europe is seen as an achievement at a football club because it provides money to spend to go on and win cups. Therefore, if only 4 clubs in a decade have qualified more than us, then surely we should be one of the best equipped clubs to go on and win things. Why haven't we? it could be worse, we could be the 24th top club over a decade, as were on many occasions pre-1992 and the Halls and Shepherd. Ask your dad and he'll tell you this is true. How was this ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Beattie isn't the type of striker we should be looking at. I think people are excited by the fact he's English, scored 20+ goals a few years back and he's cheap. We shouldn't be buying players based on this criteria, we should be looking at what our teams needs and finding someone who will get the best out of players around him as well as slotting right in. For me, Beattie isn't that man. We need (IMO) someone with a good footballing brain and intelligent link up play, preferably someone strong who can hold the ball up. Sibierski has done his best and has shown what a bit of height and hold up play can bring to our team, but we need better. Crouch does possess some of these qualities but represents poor value for money. There are plenty of lanky bastards who will score a few goals and hold the ball up, Sibierski is proof of that. We need someone in that mould but better basically, a more natural target man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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