Guest teepee Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 the fat one is too greedy and stubborn if you ask me. it wont happen.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theunis Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Dont see it happening soon, especialy in our pos in the prem atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I suspect not, and the only ones to blame are the fans - IF there had been some sort of boycott, even for a couple of games, I think Shepherd would have bottled it & sold.The fact that gates are still good has probably encouraged him to dig in and hope his scheme for the Casino comes to fruition before people get REALLY disillusioned. I wouldn't expect any other group or individual to move in if Belgravia back out and the above scenario becomes reality - the Club will be stuck with the regime for the foreseeable future and it is highly- likely that he will attempt to buy the whole Shareholding with profits & dividends from the new arrangement. You'd better start sending notes up the chimney for Santa....! Pigshit. :roll: Another member of the Ostrich Society......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I suspect not, and the only ones to blame are the fans - IF there had been some sort of boycott, even for a couple of games, I think Shepherd would have bottled it & sold.The fact that gates are still good has probably encouraged him to dig in and hope his scheme for the Casino comes to fruition before people get REALLY disillusioned. I wouldn't expect any other group or individual to move in if Belgravia back out and the above scenario becomes reality - the Club will be stuck with the regime for the foreseeable future and it is highly- likely that he will attempt to buy the whole Shareholding with profits & dividends from the new arrangement. You'd better start sending notes up the chimney for Santa....! Pigshit. :roll: Another member of the Ostrich Society......... Who the fuck are you to tell 48,000 people to stay away from games they've probably paid for months ago? How anyone can slag off the fans for supporting their team is fucking unbelievable. I've got my own opinions about who's to blame for the state we find ourselves in and 'the fans' are right at the bottom of the list. The cunts who are apparently running this club however..... As for the ostrich dig - fucking do one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I suspect not, and the only ones to blame are the fans - IF there had been some sort of boycott, even for a couple of games, I think Shepherd would have bottled it & sold.The fact that gates are still good has probably encouraged him to dig in and hope his scheme for the Casino comes to fruition before people get REALLY disillusioned. I wouldn't expect any other group or individual to move in if Belgravia back out and the above scenario becomes reality - the Club will be stuck with the regime for the foreseeable future and it is highly- likely that he will attempt to buy the whole Shareholding with profits & dividends from the new arrangement. You'd better start sending notes up the chimney for Santa....! Pigshit. :roll: Another member of the Ostrich Society......... Who the **** are you to tell 48,000 people to stay away from games they've probably paid for months ago? How anyone can slag off the fans for supporting their team is ****ing unbelievable. I've got my own opinions about who's to blame for the state we find ourselves in and 'the fans' are right at the bottom of the list. The **** who are apparently running this club however..... As for the ostrich dig - ****ing do one. 'Who the **** are you to...' Can you place a posting without attempting to use bad language, or is your vocabulary NATURALLY that poor ?? As to your question, ITS CALLED AN OPINION - something you clearly haven't heard of, so just to enlighten you, its something everyone is allowed to have WHETHER IT ANNOYS SOMEONE ELSE OR NOT !! Got it ? And if its a sore spot with you because your life is so empty that you have to have your fortnightly dose of being conned just because you paid for it, then you are even sadder than you project on these posts. As for getting rid of the people who run the club, go back & try to decipher what my original post meant. I'm sure the majority got it and No - I WON'T 'Do one' - the Ostrich dig summed you up perfectly.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Newcastle Takeover to Be Decided By Christmas Soccer: The takeover speculation at Newcastle United will be resolved in the next five weeks, according to the company who want to buy the club. Belgravia, the company in talks with Newcastle United about a possible takeover at St James' Park, expects to have made either a formal offer, or to have walked away, by Christmas. Effectively that leaves five weeks for the parties to reach agreement and, with Belgravia into their period of due diligence, City sources said yesterday that a bid is "imminent", although that means weeks rather than days. January's transfer window is a key factor in the self-imposed deadline. Newcastle and Belgravia want to have a sense of certainty going into January, with a Belgravia spokesman saying yesterday that, regardless of speculation about the value of the land around St James' Park, the primary focus would be on improving the club's Premiership standing. Despite sceptical noises from within St James' about Belgravia's true intentions - there appears to be little belief, publicly at least, that the Jersey-based company will make a bid - Belgravia stressed yesterday that any takeover could not be classified as hostile. "We are in discussions which are ongoing," a spokesman said. That has been Belgravia's stance since August 21, when it was first revealed that discussions had begun and when they were entitled to begin inspecting the books under the due diligence period. Newcastle's position, reiterated by the chairman, Freddy Shepherd, at the weekend, is that there has been no official offer from Belgravia or any other party, and even if one or more is forthcoming it does not have to be accepted. However, discussions can be at an advanced stage before any formal bid is declared under Stock Exchange rules. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/117003.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theunis Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Allot of speculation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 A whole lot of nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/6196212.stm Group hopeful on Newcastle buyout By Andrew McKenzie Newcastle United The Belgravia Group remains keen on a deal for Newcastle and would like to be in control for the transfer window. The Jersey-based group was expected to launch a £235m takeover earlier this month that failed to materialise. But a spokesman told BBC Sport: "We are still in talks which may or may not lead to a deal but from our perspective we are still very keen to do a deal. "The transfer window is approaching and I think from both parties' perspective that is something to focus the minds." Investment group Belgravia made its interest in the club public in the summer but so far the company has yet to make an offer for the Premiership club. And Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd told BBC Sport: "They made a statement in August saying they may or may not make a bid. "They can say what they like but they have yet to make an offer and until they make an offer we cannot say anything." But the Belgravia spokesman confirmed that it is still interested in a takeover. Newcastle are one of the premier football brands in Europe Belgravia spokesman He added: "Were we to make an offer or were we to cease our talks or they were to cease talks with us they would have to make an announcement to the stock exchange. "None of which has been done so you can presume that talks are ongoing. "We are in discussions with the board of Newcastle which means we are talking to all the shareholders." The Magpies have been the subject of takeover rumours for months, with former chairman Sir John Hall admitting he has held discussions about selling his 28.5% share in the club. Current chairman Shepherd appears more reluctant to sell and has been steadily increasing his share in the club to 28.01%. The Belgravia spokesman confirmed that it would be looking to buy out both Hall and Shepherd. He added: "I think Polygon expressed an interest in buying one of Hall's or Shepherd's stake but we have said all along that we are interested in buying the whole thing. "Because it is a quoted company that means making an offer for all the shares in the company. "Hopefully we can come to terms on a deal that suits everybody - when that point comes Newcastle PLC will have to make a statement. "It would be premature and disrespectful to the fans to talk about what we may of may not want to do as we don't own it. "Were we to make an offer you have to disclose what financing plans are and what you are going to do and at that point we will outline in detail what our plans for the club would be. "If you want to make money out of football clubs you need a successful team on the pitch. "But Newcastle has a fantastic infrastructure, a fantastic fanbase, they are a big club, have a developed ground with good facilities and are one of the premier football brands in Europe." "In an ideal world things would happen sooner rather than later but negotiations take time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 wow looks like it may happen .exciting but scary at the same time . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 i hope they come in to be honest, its the only way we wont get left behind. clubs owned by a fan etc are dying fast, especially in the top flight, so lets get this done and lets improve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 "If you want to make money out of football clubs you need a successful team on the pitch." So money will be spent to get us competitive "But Newcastle has a fantastic infrastructure, a fantastic fanbase, they are a big club, have a developed ground with good facilities and are one of the premier football brands in Europe." Seeing us after initial investment as self sufficient, which means sensible buying and management "In an ideal world things would happen sooner rather than later but negotiations take time." Will have to happen before the transfer window opens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Please happen. Shepherd out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sounds good to me and the transfer window might be exciting for once as we'd definitely be going for players at the top end of the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 I'm waitin until they have to outline their plans when they make their offer, then I'll judge them. But certainly so far, everything they've said is hitting the right notes. However, remember that Roeder said all the right things when he was appointed as well.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 When was the last time you heard the rumour of a takeover at a football club without it going through? I can't remember the last time, it's for that reason why i believe Freddy is going to sell. I voted yes and i can't wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry to pour cold water on all this takeover talk, but in my opinion Shepherd will not sell. Belgavia are trying to get the fans onside by spouting about strengthening the team in January. I suggest that Shepherd will string out the negotiations so that a takeover could not be completed, before or during the transfer window, in the hope that Belgravia will back off for a while. He will then use that intervening period to try to obtain enough shares to mount a takeover himself. This is what business men do for fun (and money) so rest assured the fans preferences will only come to the fore when both parties are considering how best to fleece them of their money. Period! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 When was the last time you heard the rumour of a takeover at a football club without it going through? I can't remember the last time, it's for that reason why i believe Freddy is going to sell. I voted yes and i can't wait. Liverpool? A takeover has been happening for about 3 years now including USA businessmen, internal takeovers & even Prime Ministers of an Asian Country have been strongly linked with a buyout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry to pour cold water on all this takeover talk, but in my opinion Shepherd will not sell. Belgavia are trying to get the fans onside by spouting about strengthening the team in January. I suggest that Shepherd will string out the negotiations so that a takeover could not be completed, before or during the transfer window, in the hope that Belgravia will back off for a while. He will then use that intervening period to try to obtain enough shares to mount a takeover himself. This is what business men do for fun (and money) so rest assured the fans preferences will only come to the fore when both parties are considering how best to fleece them of their money. Period! Shepherd has nothing like the sort of money to buy NUFC outright. Not gonna happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry to pour cold water on all this takeover talk, but in my opinion Shepherd will not sell. Belgavia are trying to get the fans onside by spouting about strengthening the team in January. I suggest that Shepherd will string out the negotiations so that a takeover could not be completed, before or during the transfer window, in the hope that Belgravia will back off for a while. He will then use that intervening period to try to obtain enough shares to mount a takeover himself. This is what business men do for fun (and money) so rest assured the fans preferences will only come to the fore when both parties are considering how best to fleece them of their money. Period! Shepherd has nothing like the sort of money to buy NUFC outright. Not gonna happen. FS is just looking for the final big payoff. He once said he'd never leave until we won something, but with Chelsea around, that's become near enough impossible (well it limits the options, and the others fight to the death for the lesser cups) Like you say, he doesn't have the money, and he's getting on. I wonder if his wifes ill health (whatever it was) might push him to get out and retire. Why live round this dreary place when you could go live in some of the best places in the world, and see out your days there? Its time for him to move on, he's a stubborn cunt, but he'll crack, especially if the right money is flashed, because as much as he is stubborn, he's equally as greedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 When was the last time you heard the rumour of a takeover at a football club without it going through? I can't remember the last time, it's for that reason why i believe Freddy is going to sell. I voted yes and i can't wait. Liverpool? A takeover has been happening for about 3 years now including USA businessmen, internal takeovers & even Prime Ministers of an Asian Country have been strongly linked with a buyout. Aye, forgot about that one. However, if you look at how many have gone through......... Chelsea Man Utd Pompey West Ham Villa Sunderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 When was the last time you heard the rumour of a takeover at a football club without it going through? I can't remember the last time, it's for that reason why i believe Freddy is going to sell. I voted yes and i can't wait. Liverpool? A takeover has been happening for about 3 years now including USA businessmen, internal takeovers & even Prime Ministers of an Asian Country have been strongly linked with a buyout. Aye, forgot about that one. However, if you look at how many have gone through......... Chelsea Man Utd Pompey West Ham Villa Sunderland True, most if not all but this one go through. Leeds, Leicester (currently & probably will) & other smaller takeovers have all gone through. Goods signs, especially when there's not just one party interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brazilianbob Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry to pour cold water on all this takeover talk, but in my opinion Shepherd will not sell. Belgavia are trying to get the fans onside by spouting about strengthening the team in January. I suggest that Shepherd will string out the negotiations so that a takeover could not be completed, before or during the transfer window, in the hope that Belgravia will back off for a while. He will then use that intervening period to try to obtain enough shares to mount a takeover himself. This is what business men do for fun (and money) so rest assured the fans preferences will only come to the fore when both parties are considering how best to fleece them of their money. Period! Shepherd has nothing like the sort of money to buy NUFC outright. Not gonna happen. So tell me again where the Glazers lumped the debt they incurred in buying Man u. I think you will find that it is a Man U debt. There is nothing to stop FS from doing just that. All he needs is a bridging loan and as soon as he has completed the deal, the club will pay off the bank(s) by assuming the debt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 When was the last time you heard the rumour of a takeover at a football club without it going through? I can't remember the last time, it's for that reason why i believe Freddy is going to sell. I voted yes and i can't wait. Liverpool? A takeover has been happening for about 3 years now including USA businessmen, internal takeovers & even Prime Ministers of an Asian Country have been strongly linked with a buyout. Aye, forgot about that one. However, if you look at how many have gone through......... Chelsea Man Utd Pompey West Ham Villa Sunderland True, most if not all but this one go through. Leeds, Leicester (currently & probably will) & other smaller takeovers have all gone through. Goods signs, especially when there's not just one party interested. They also seem very keen and rich. What where the latest quotes 235m? If they have that sort of money, i've no doubt it will happen. Also.... sheppards been suspiciously quite since the sack the board chants. I think he's wavering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Sorry to pour cold water on all this takeover talk, but in my opinion Shepherd will not sell. Belgavia are trying to get the fans onside by spouting about strengthening the team in January. I suggest that Shepherd will string out the negotiations so that a takeover could not be completed, before or during the transfer window, in the hope that Belgravia will back off for a while. He will then use that intervening period to try to obtain enough shares to mount a takeover himself. This is what business men do for fun (and money) so rest assured the fans preferences will only come to the fore when both parties are considering how best to fleece them of their money. Period! Shepherd has nothing like the sort of money to buy NUFC outright. Not gonna happen. So tell me again where the Glazers lumped the debt they incurred in buying Man u. I think you will find that it is a Man U debt. There is nothing to stop FS from doing just that. All he needs is a bridging loan and as soon as he has completed the deal, the club will pay off the bank(s) by assuming the debt. Seen as we're taking the sarcy approach.....tell me again how Newcastle are going to generate the cash to pay off that sort of debt when they just about stay afloat paying off the debt on the ground and the various other creditors on the books? Why would Shepherd put his family's wealth at such peril when he's nearing the age where he wants to be putting his feet up? Shepherd has nothing like the sort of wealth or other business interests to support something like this. What bank is going to touch him for the bridging loan? What bank is going to look at NUFC's balance sheet and say "Yes Mr. Shepherd, that balance sheet looks like it could handle you transferring a whopping great loan onto it. Where do we sign up for that?" Like I said, it's not going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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