Dunedin Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 We have 33 points from 26 games, the same as last year when Souness was sacked. Why do the Roeder lovers, who say he is doing a good job, think that a similar record to Souness is acceptable ? I really hope he is on his way at the end of this season. Please don't offer injuries as an excuse for him as he is responsible for our wafer thin squad which has not been put right through two transfer windows. His inability to recognise our need for a left back really boils my p*ss. I am also sick of listening to his pathetic post match talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Although i think he's done a good job i take your point, however Souness did spend the 50 odd million which Roeder hasn't had the luxury of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChickenKiev Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 ...and you must admit that we seem to be going in the right direction, unlike under souness. Our football is slightly better now than it was a year ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Souness went when we were 26 points off 24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedin Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedin Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. Initially you were comparing Souness and Roeder and then you basically chucked that out of the window and went to pre Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. We should be aiming for a competent chairman first... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedin Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. Initially you were comparing Souness and Roeder and then you basically chucked that out of the window and went to pre Souness. Accepted I was trying to say that Roeder had a similar track record this season, however you did not answer my questions about aiming higher and accepting mediocrity. Or, do you believe Roeder is competent and on what basis. My views on his incompetence are based on inability to change a game, tactically naive, favoritism with certain players who do not deserve his support, inability to operate in the transfer system and poor man management. His track record is hardly inspiring and yes I appreciated his work last season but we should have said thank you and moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedin Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. We should be aiming for a competent chairman first... I agree but I think a competent manager would be easier to achieve than changing the chairman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Whinge, whinge, whinge. Boring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 .....yes but it is a shadow of what it was pre-Souness !!! Besides the point. If I believe you and agree that it is besides the point , are you then happy to settle for the sort of mediocrity we are currently watching and for it to continue, I was trying to say we should be aiming higher and only a competent manager will take us there. Obviously I do not believe Glen is competent. We should be aiming for a competent chairman first... I agree but I think a competent manager would be easier to achieve than changing the chairman The current chairman had 2 opportunities to hire the competent manager and he fucked both times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 ...and you must admit that we seem to be going in the right direction, unlike under souness. Our football is slightly better now than it was a year ago. Did I dream us getting hammered 5-1 at home by a Championship club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 ...and you must admit that we seem to be going in the right direction, unlike under souness. Our football is slightly better now than it was a year ago. Did I dream us getting hammered 5-1 at home by a Championship club? One freak result, lets keep things in perspective eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 ...and you must admit that we seem to be going in the right direction, unlike under souness. Our football is slightly better now than it was a year ago. Did I dream us getting hammered 5-1 at home by a Championship club? One freak result, lets keep things in perspective eh. Charlton Sheffield United Bolton Fulham Man Utd Aston Villa All home games we didn't deserve anything from, our football is absolutely awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 We have 33 points from 26 games, the same as last year when Souness was sacked. Why do the Roeder lovers, who say he is doing a good job, think that a similar record to Souness is acceptable ? I really hope he is on his way at the end of this season. Please don't offer injuries as an excuse for him as he is responsible for our wafer thin squad which has not been put right through two transfer windows. His inability to recognise our need for a left back really boils my p*ss. I am also sick of listening to his pathetic post match talks. there is a very simple answer to your question and it has to do with the astonishingly different situations both managers inherited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 ...and you must admit that we seem to be going in the right direction, unlike under souness. Our football is slightly better now than it was a year ago. Did I dream us getting hammered 5-1 at home by a Championship club? One freak result, lets keep things in perspective eh. Charlton Sheffield United Bolton Fulham Man Utd Aston Villa All home games we didn't deserve anything from, our football is absolutely awful. Its slightly better than under Souness who also had Owen, Shearer and Ameobi to lump the ball at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There's no distinction between the football we play now and that which we produced under Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Souness did spend the 50 odd million which Roeder hasn't had the luxury of. [/thread] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There's no distinction between the football we play now and that which we produced under Souness. i suppose it's comforting to know that people have forgotten how bad it was under Souness. the first-half against fulham, for example, while nothing extraordinary whatsoever relative to our performances under Roeder, would've been better than anything we produced in Souness's bad times. let me remind you, Solano partering amdy faye in defensive midfield, Ameobi as our left-winger, Ramage at left-back, no-one at right-wing, boumsong and bramble mistakes galore in defence, statuesque shearer stranded up front etc. as for saying we deserved nothing from the villa match, that's an amazing claim to make, probably more accurate to say we deserved a draw if everything. we totally stunned them for the first 20 mins (the first 20 mins do count you know!) and then naturally you'd expect the team getting beat to have the lion's share of the game, as they have everything to do, while we just need to hang onto a lead (we actually extended it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There's no distinction between the football we play now and that which we produced under Souness. i suppose it's comforting to know that people have forgotten how bad it was under Souness. the first-half against fulham, for example, while nothing extraordinary whatsoever relative to our performances under Roeder, would've been better than anything we produced in Souness's bad times. let me remind you, Solano partering amdy faye in defensive midfield, Ameobi as our left-winger, Ramage at left-back, no-one at right-wing, boumsong and bramble mistakes galore in defence, statuesque shearer stranded up front etc. as for saying we deserved nothing from the villa match, that's an amazing claim to make, probably more accurate to say we deserved a draw if everything. we totally stunned them for the first 20 mins (the first 20 mins do count you know!) and then naturally you'd expect the team getting beat to have the lion's share of the game, as they have everything to do, while we just need to hang onto a lead (we actually extended it). I'll never forget the shite played under Souness but I'll never forget the Sheffield Utd game, it was as bad as anything I can remember under Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stormrider Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There's no distinction between the football we play now and that which we produced under Souness. NUFC did not produce football between September 2004 and February 2006. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 There's no distinction between the football we play now and that which we produced under Souness. i suppose it's comforting to know that people have forgotten how bad it was under Souness. the first-half against fulham, for example, while nothing extraordinary whatsoever relative to our performances under Roeder, would've been better than anything we produced in Souness's bad times. let me remind you, Solano partering amdy faye in defensive midfield, Ameobi as our left-winger, Ramage at left-back, no-one at right-wing, boumsong and bramble mistakes galore in defence, statuesque shearer stranded up front etc. as for saying we deserved nothing from the villa match, that's an amazing claim to make, probably more accurate to say we deserved a draw if everything. we totally stunned them for the first 20 mins (the first 20 mins do count you know!) and then naturally you'd expect the team getting beat to have the lion's share of the game, as they have everything to do, while we just need to hang onto a lead (we actually extended it). I'll never forget the shite played under Souness but I'll never forget the Sheffield Utd game, it was as bad as anything I can remember under Souness. true that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Aye, and the Sheffield United game was one match. Under Souness, it was match after match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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