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[Kanj]

In my mind's eye, @manorpark took a photo off his phone of some random VHS he has of some random TV show; all part of his war chest archive. 

[Interpolic]

@midds @AyeDubbleYoo @Disco

 

There was actually a reddit thread today about the very subject we were discussing yesterday:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/football/s/UH5VjkLW26

 

From a City AM article, thought this bit was interesting as it coincidentally mentions £10 as a price point. Hopefully there is scope for sensible pricing when this inevitably comes around. 

 

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A 2020 academic paper on the idea posited that if the 200m or so people who currently subscribe to pay TV channels to watch the Premier League paid £10 a month for a dedicated streaming service, annual media rights income could balloon from £3.5bn to £24bn.

 

[Karjala]

Don't see the Saudi's spunking billions on a new stadium when they aren't allowed to spend any money on players.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Karjala

[Sima]

Just now, Interpolic said:

@midds @AyeDubbleYoo @Disco

 

There was actually a reddit thread today about the very subject we were discussing yesterday:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/football/s/UH5VjkLW26

 

From a City AM article, thought this bit was interesting as it coincidentally mentions £10 as a price point. Hopefully there is scope for sensible pricing when this inevitably comes around. 

 

 

It’s like the music streaming services.

 

Price it too high and illegal streams will continue to be rife.

 

Price it at a strong price point (£12 for HD with ads/£17 for 4K premium with no ads) and people will  lap it up.

 

Music piracy has more or less disappeared because £10 a month is an acceptable price to pay for all music at your fingertips.

[midds]

1 minute ago, Interpolic said:

@midds @AyeDubbleYoo @Disco

 

There was actually a reddit thread today about the very subject we were discussing yesterday:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/football/s/UH5VjkLW26

 

From a City AM article, thought this bit was interesting as it coincidentally mentions £10 as a price point. Hopefully there is scope for sensible pricing when this inevitably comes around. 

 

 

Doesn't surprise me at all tbh. Once the likes of Netflix go direct debit then people don't even feel it, it's just always there and it's not significantly expensive enough to cancel once they're invested. Most would look at it as a saving and bin Sky and TNT, they're the ones that should be looking over their shoulders really. If it happens then they're bang in trouble and the price-gouging will stop immediately. Good news all round

[Sima]

Sky can’t survive without football.  They profiteered for fucking ages before the advent of IPTV.

 

Fuck them.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Sima

[Interpolic]

2 minutes ago, Sima said:

Sky can’t survive without football.  They profiteered for fucking ages before the advent of IPTV.

 

Fuck them.

 

 

 

 

 I work for them (atm ) but can't see anything except their TV business shrinking beyond all regognition. They'll pull out all the stops to not lose PL coverage but I think it's coming eventually. They're losing HBO content on the entertainment side at some point soon as well, I think. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

16 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

@midds @AyeDubbleYoo @Disco

 

There was actually a reddit thread today about the very subject we were discussing yesterday:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/football/s/UH5VjkLW26

 

From a City AM article, thought this bit was interesting as it coincidentally mentions £10 as a price point. Hopefully there is scope for sensible pricing when this inevitably comes around. 

 

 

Knew there was a reason why American sports can sell their streaming so cheap. 
 

They have conventional TV broadcasters as well FWIW, local and some games national. Must still be a market outside of the streaming (at the moment). 

[jack j]

Makes me laugh when people talk about a new ground being soulless. I bet it can't be any more soulless than that place tonight.

[LFEE]

29 minutes ago, Sima said:

It’s like the music streaming services.

 

Price it too high and illegal streams will continue to be rife.

 

Price it at a strong price point (£12 for HD with ads/£17 for 4K premium with no ads) and people will  lap it up.

 

Music piracy has more or less disappeared because £10 a month is an acceptable price to pay for all music at your fingertips.

Music piracy has more or less disappeared but like I said yesterday so has the money for recording bands.

[Jonas]

21 minutes ago, jack j said:

Makes me laugh when people talk about a new ground being soulless. I bet it can't be any more soulless than that place tonight.

Atmosphere would at best stay the same. Everything else would be gone though.

[timeEd32]

29 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Knew there was a reason why American sports can sell their streaming so cheap. 
 

They have conventional TV broadcasters as well FWIW, local and some games national. Must still be a market outside of the streaming (at the moment). 

 

What are you referring to here?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

What are you referring to here?

 

Things like 160 live and on demand MLB games for around £100 a season. 

[timeEd32]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Things like 160 live and on demand MLB games for around £100 a season. 

 

Oh, baseball is different though because it's heavily regional. MLB has national deals worth almost $2b per season from the likes of ESPN, Apple, etc., but every team has their own local TV arrangement. And then mlb.tv is meant for the out-of-area fan. It would be like if there was PL TV, but if you live in Newcastle you have to subscribe to Sky Newcastle to see Newcastle's games. PL TV would give you the rest.

 

And I guess the international market can't handle a higher price point.

 

 

[Wallsendmag]

37 minutes ago, jack j said:

Makes me laugh when people talk about a new ground being soulless. I bet it can't be any more soulless than that place tonight.

 

Was vert good in the Gallowgate 1st Half. 2nd half died a death understandably given how shit we were.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, timeEd32 said:

 

Oh, baseball is different though because it's heavily regional. MLB has national deals worth almost $2b per season from the likes of ESPN, Apple, etc., but every team has their own local TV arrangement. And then mlb.tv is meant for the out-of-area fan. It would be like if there was PL TV, but if you live in Newcastle you have to subscribe to Sky Newcastle to see Newcastle's games. PL TV would give you the rest.

 

And I guess the international market can't handle a higher price point.

 

 

 

Do you not get similar passes in NBA and NFL?

[timeEd32]

7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Do you not get similar passes in NBA and NFL?

You can, but all the sports are modeled a bit differently. 
 

With the NFL you could get most of your local team for free with an antenna or cheap with a basic cable subscription. But those networks are paying the NFL a couple billion each per season. Or you can pay about $120/mo for four months for Sunday Ticket, which gives you every Sunday game.
 

Monday / Thursday night football require ESPN and Amazon.

[manorpark]

5 hours ago, Kanj said:

In my mind's eye, @manorpark took a photo off his phone of some random VHS he has of some random TV show; all part of his war chest archive. 

 

Well, could be !!!

[Interpolic]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Music piracy has more or less disappeared but like I said yesterday so has the money for recording bands.

 

It's true but it's not really relevant here I don't think? In terms of changing behaviour (rampant piracy) it has worked and it can work for the PL as well if they price it correctly. 

 

The PL isn't a complex landscape of thousands of artists, it's one organisation that could make a killing by cutting out the middleman and selling direct to consumer at a sensible price and at huge scale, all but killing piracy.