LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 12:06, Yorkie said: Don't think there's any need to get into the nitty gritty of the debate again. But in a nutshell I'd sooner stay at SJP than see us occupy a bog seat design like Spurs. We all know where you stand on the issue, there's no need to be an arse about it. There are good reasons to move and there are good reasons to stay; it depends on what you value and not everyone is the same. Expand I’m not being an arse. Just shake my head at people moaning about the shape of it of all the things to consider! Big change in location, worse views and acoustics or locking out future generations and effect on the City in general etc I’m all for a debate. All the things that matter to the match going fan and those who spend their time in the city that would be effected, particularly a regular one should totally be on the table. If I was being an arse I’d say why do you care what shape it is when you don’t go to the games even when offered tickets. That would be being an arse. But I didn’t So… Whats the problem with the stadium being a bowl shape? That was my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 13:02, NSG said: Could mean there’s only 100 or so games left at SJP. Expand Great. 5 more years of Mags+ Membership means I may get to.......let's see......about 5 of those games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) I'd prefer they built on a virgin site in Leazers Park / Castle Leazers, kept the current stadium fully operational during construction and then got Thompsons of Prudhoe in with bulldozers and a wrecking ball the day after the new stadium opens Fuck playing at a construction site with reduced capacity and only 3 stands open etc etc etc And fuck playing at Murrayfield, which would be a steaming pile of dogshit in terms of logistics Anyhow, the article is by Mr. L Edwards. We ridicule his transfer bantz, but seem to take his stadium news as gospel. So it could all just be utter bollocks for clicks, as usual Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 13:23, bobbydazzla said: Anyhow, the article is by Mr. L Edwards. We ridicule his transfer bantz, but seem to take his stadium news as gospel. So it could all just be utter bollocks for clicks, as usual Expand It's no different to what was shared on here in July last year but that got laughed off as shite. Edwards obvs the oracle thesedays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Any mention of how many quid the budget is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 13:23, bobbydazzla said: I'd prefer they built on a virgin site in Leazers Park / Castle Leazers, kept the current stadium fully operational during construction and then got Thompsons of Prudhoe in with bulldozers and a wrecking ball the day after the new stadium opens Fuck playing at a construction site with reduced capacity and only 3 stands open etc etc etc And fuck playing at Murrayfield, which would be a steaming pile of dogshit in terms of logistics Anyhow, the article is by Mr. L Edwards. We ridicule his transfer bantz, but seem to take his stadium news as gospel. So it could all just be utter bollocks for clicks, as usual Expand I’m surprised they are thinking of overlapping the stadiums. If however they think it’s the only option that will tick the locality box and face minimum opposition then fare enough but can’t help feel they are having to make the project less ambitious. Anyway like you say it might not even happen as shown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) On 04/02/2025 at 13:30, jack j said: It's no different to what was shared on here in July last year but that got laughed off as shite. Edwards obvs the oracle thesedays Expand I was so utterly convinced by Tyneside Life on Youtube saying he'd spoken to the council and they were moving Leazers Terrace onto the tennis courts that I simply ignored any other stadium speculation from any other sources as it was clearly fake news Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 13:30, Ikon said: Any mention of how many quid the budget is? Expand Millions of billions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 13:30, Ikon said: Any mention of how many quid the budget is? Expand Olly Gill will be along any second to let us know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) On 04/02/2025 at 12:54, Interpolic said: Still find this view/tone quite obnoxious. Fans are allowed to have the opposing view without being told they're not seeing sense. Expand I’ve not said you can’t have opposing views? This option isn’t even the one I want But having listened to a broad range of feedback on here and elsewhere I honestly think the club have made the most sensible decision if indeed this is the one. Its as close to the current site you could ask for so much so it overlaps so no change to anyone’s match day routines. Its 20% approximately bigger so hopefully that will allow future generations into the ground more regularly at a lower price point than an expansion would and on the flip side put to rest fears from some we couldn’t fill 75/80/85k regularly. It allows the club flexibility for their corporate adventures which will all help to keep the ticket prices lower than they would with less corporate opportunities. It also gives the chance to reconfigure the fans who want to be together and offer better acoustics hopefully leading to a better atmosphere. Hopefully it will attract people to visit our lovely city with other sporting and music events which is great for the City. Finally it would hopefully give us a couple of scoreboards for the VAR decisions for everyone to be able to view. I’m not sure there’s a box they haven’t ticked with those plans in that report. That encompasses everyone’s views. So I’ll repeat I’m glad the club has seen sense and I hope the fans do to. I’ll also repeat it’s not the option I would’ve went for but overall I’m happy to accept it. Not sure how it came across obnoxious? I certainly didn’t mean to 👍🏻 Edited February 4 by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) On 04/02/2025 at 13:34, bobbydazzla said: I was so utterly convinced by Tyneside Life on Youtube saying he'd spoken to the council and they were moving Leazers Terrace onto the tennis courts that I simply ignored any other stadium speculation from any other sources as it was clearly fake news Expand Only 3 months ago he was saying that anyone who believes there would be any kind of development on Leazes Park is "batshit crazy". He's pretty insufferable when it comes the the subject of stadium redevelopment/relocation. Edited February 4 by Wandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Also, and this is probably extremely ignorant of me considering I know F all about construction, but it does shock me at how long these things take. Ive seen videos from China of them throwing up buildings in 2 weeks etc. surely (if they wanted to) PIF could employ 4x the normal workload and get it done a lot quicker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:06, LFEE said: So I’ll repeat I’m glad the club has seen sense and I hope the fans do to. Expand I am of the opposing view and I'm not lacking any sense, cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I like the idea of doing a two year feasibility study and then Brad Miller saw this and just thought, “you know what… option C” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:13, Interpolic said: I am of the opposing view and I'm not lacking any sense, cheers. Expand Tell me what you would like which you think is more sensible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:13, Interpolic said: I am of the opposing view and I'm not lacking any sense, cheers. Expand What are your reasons, then we can judge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:15, J7 said: What are your reasons, then we can judge. Expand wtf? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Why would we imprint on the current ground if we don’t have to? Seems like it would cause unnecessary disruption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoForJoy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) On 04/02/2025 at 11:44, The Butcher said: Expand A new stadium is going to take up far more of Leazes Park than they've intimated there. 20,000 more seats, yet it's the same size as the current SJP. I'd say the new build will be double the size of the one shown there. The concourses and bogs, not to mention bars and food outlets need to be able to cope with 70,000 people. It'll be huge. Edited February 4 by TwoForJoy spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I've said many times on here - I don't want to leave SJP, it's a proper football ground and I've yet to see a new build in this country that isn't completely naff in comparison. I don't aspire to be Spurs. I accept progress may be a bit slower taking this route. I do not accept that we actually need to do this to compete. I do not accept we should make a forever decision based on PSR rules which may end up being relatively short-lived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:20, Interpolic said: wtf? Expand What do you mean? Please provide details of what supporting the club you've supported your whole life means to you and then others will tell you whether they're valid or not. What's the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:20, Interpolic said: wtf? Expand Well you must have a reason for wanting the stadium to stay as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:22, Sima said: Why would we imprint on the current ground if we don’t have to? Seems like it would cause unnecessary disruption. Expand Guessing a combination of fear of the nimbies and fans voicing their opinions they don’t want to walk a few hundred yards further and maybe less red tape I’d imagine. I’m surprised by it TBH. Predicted it to be close to Leazes areas but not that close. On 04/02/2025 at 14:22, TwoForJoy said: A new stadium is going to take up far more of Leazes Park than they've intimated there. 20,000 more seats, yet it's the same size as the current SJP. I'd say the new build will be double the size of the one shown there. The concourses and bogs, not to mention bars and food outlets need to be able to cope with 70,000 people. It'll be huge. Expand They say it will be higher. Wonder if the lower tier would be below ground level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:26, Kid Icarus said: What do you mean? Please provide details of what supporting the club you've supported your whole life means to you and then others will tell you whether they're valid or not. What's the problem? Expand That emotions not sense surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 04/02/2025 at 14:27, J7 said: Well you must have a reason for wanting the stadium to stay as it is. Expand On 04/02/2025 at 14:25, Interpolic said: I've said many times on here - I don't want to leave SJP, it's a proper football ground and I've yet to see a new build in this country that isn't completely naff in comparison. I don't aspire to be Spurs. I accept progress may be a bit slower taking this route. I do not accept that we actually need to do this to compete. I do not accept we should make a forever decision based on PSR rules which may end up being relatively short-lived. Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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