St James' Park

[Tross]

Nah we need to stay. 

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, JT24 said:

In a stadium that is largely on the same footprint. I don’t really understand the whole losing your identity argument over this. 

I can't answer that, I also don't get it. The history of the club and the stadium doesn't change we can look back with great fondness and appreciation but personally I want to look forward and compete and stick it to those other clubs. 

[JT24]

2 minutes ago, Tross said:

Nah we need to stay. 

Can you tell me why?

 

Is there a benefit other than “oh well, it’s our history” that makes it essential to stay in a stadium that’s falling behind the rest?

[Kid Icarus]

Is it not fair to say it's been explained a canny few times now? I thought the two camps were at the understanding each others' different perspectives stage tbh.

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Kid Icarus

[TwoForJoy]

I'll miss not calling it St James' Park more than I'll miss St James' Park.

[Fenham Mag]

I really don't think the stadium is a big part of our identity to be honest. Yes, the location is key to our identity, with the city centre buzz and the pre/post match pubs, but the actual stadium is not. It has changed so much from it's original format and moving the stadium footprint a few hundred yards up Barrack Road will not change much.

 

A new stadium is exciting and will propel the club to the next level. 

 

Fingers crossed that is the choice they go with. 

 

 

[Kid Icarus]

It's all down to each person. The stadium is without question a big part of our identity to me and others. For others it won't be, there's no blanket statement that you can apply to the whole fanbase. 

[mattypnufc]

Sick to death of both arguments now.  Wish they'd just fucking get on with making a decision and announce it, and thats that. 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by mattypnufc

[manorpark]

53 minutes ago, Tross said:

Nah we need to stay. 

 

I think that the majority of people who support Newcastle United have come to realise that (sadly) staying at the current St James' Park would condemn our club to perpetual 'relative' mediocrity.

 

Moving to a new stadium holding (hopefully) 75,000 people, that is almost in the same City Centre location as SJP (just a little bit further into Leazes Park) gives the supporters and the club the very best of all worlds.

 

Significantly, we will then be able to start making progress against the Cartel of the Sky 6 and the Premier League.

 

It will be G L O R I O U S !!!!!!!!!   

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by manorpark

[J7]

3 hours ago, Tross said:

We don't need Taylor swift and the Kansas City Chiefs in the toon. We need a proper football stadium with history and heritage. Lose that, we lose a part of Newcastle United's identity and we become a Man City tourist club. IMO. 

The history of the current ground goes back 25 years, half of which were utterly horrific and not to be remembered fondly.

[Tross]

2 minutes ago, J7 said:

The history of the current ground goes back 25 years, half of which were utterly horrific and not to be remembered fondly.

 

The history of the current ground goes back around 145 years.

[et tu brute]

The team comes first every single time. Every stand has been replaced and we don't even own the land it sits on. I've been attending games since 1973 when the East Stand opened and I'm still waiting to see us win something. Thankfully the owners and the majority of supporters realise what is required to take the team to the next level and beyond 

[r0cafella]

So does anyone know when the next fan advisory board meeting is? 

[bobbydazzla]

52 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

The team comes first every single time. Every stand has been replaced and we don't even own the land it sits on. I've been attending games since 1973 when the East Stand opened and I'm still waiting to see us win something. Thankfully the owners and the majority of supporters realise what is required to take the team to the next level and beyond 

 

I can't remember who it is on here, but someone talked about having a "lucky ritual" of only entering the East Stand through a very specific turnstile and they'd been doing that same thing for decades. To break the ritual would mean bad luck

 

At the time it was suggested that their ritual had achieved absolutely fuck all for NUFC and it was therefore pointless

 

It's interesting from a psychological perspective how people will cling to things because it's what they've always known or done, rather than seeing change as a potential harbinger of positivity 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[Fenham Mag]

Just now, bobbydazzla said:

 

I can't remember who it is on here, but someone talked about having a "lucky ritual" in that they only enter the East Stand through a very specific turnstile and have been doing that same thing for decades. To break the ritual would mean bad luck.

 

At the time it was suggested that their ritual had achieved absolutely fuck and it was therefore pointless

 

It's interesting how people will cling to things because it's what they've always known, rather than seeing change as a potential harbinger of positivity 

 

Looks like it will be May, they've been held every 6 months so far, last one was in November. 

[Fenham Mag]

9 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

So does anyone know when the next fan advisory board meeting is? 

Looks like it will be May, they've been held every 6 months so far, last one was in November. 

[Gate4]

I think people would be better served by putting their energy, however they can affect things, into making sure the new stadium is not a lame design (i.e. some generic soulless bowl) rather than advocating staying at SJP.

[J7]

56 minutes ago, Tross said:

 

The history of the current ground goes back around 145 years.

Oh! You mean location. Not sure if you’ve seen, but the new stadium will overlap the same footprint. 

[JT24]

14 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said:

Looks like it will be May, they've been held every 6 months so far, last one was in November. 

I read somewhere that there is meant to be one in March. It might have been from an Athletic article/Q&A.

[manorpark]

58 minutes ago, Tross said:

 

The history of the current ground goes back around 145 years.

 

As someone who has attended SJP (and loved it) since 1968, I can confirm that the current SJP is a very recent incarnation and is only about 25 years old.

 

The proposed "Leazes Park Stadium" will be light years better for the club than the recent version of SJP and (as mentioned earlier) will cover part of the same 'footprint' as SJP, from all the information we currently have.

 

It will be G R E A T !!!!!

[r0cafella]

19 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said:

Looks like it will be May, they've been held every 6 months so far, last one was in November. 

Ugh still a long wait in that case then. I'm assuming that will be the avenue of consultation with the fans. 

[pinkeye]

There are three of us that go together to the match.  Some difference of opinion between us all as to whether we feel we should stay or move to a new stadium.

 

Me - I am the oldest by a fair margin and had my season ticket for way longer.  I would like to move to new stadium.  We all sit in the East Stand, anyone who sits in the East stand will confirm that it is really not fit for purpose, the concouses are a mess and way too small (narrow).  The toilets are a disaster and a biohazard. 

My 19 year old son - Absolutely wants to stay put in the current stadium, he feels the ground could be improved considerably with some layout changes and some money spending on the facilities, such as toilets.  He is convinced that a new stadium would become a soulless bowl of silence.

My mate - Somewhat undecided, can see reasons to move to a new stadium and reasons to stay.

 

So that is a straw poll of the three of us and I would bet that loads of people that are lucky enough to have season tickets have similar views.  

 

 

[Dr.Spaceman]

I'm firmly in favour of a new ground but if we can improve SJP significantly to the point where it's essentially unrecognisable inside then great.

[Nucasol]

10 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

I'm firmly in favour of a new ground but if we can improve SJP significantly to the point where it's essentially unrecognisable inside then great.

Similar to plonking whole new stands on the Gallowgate, Milburn and Leazes. Just save money and buy new, rather than limping on in what we’re in. The league is moving on, I’d rather us not be Luddites.

[vic]

Evertons Bramley Moor Dock stadium looks fantastic with really steep stands and with the right investment they could be a real force in the coming years.