St James' Park

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

How many fans access SJP by car? The only car park there isn't even open on a match day to the general public!

 

As for the walk, admittedly I'm a fairly quick walker and it takes me 10 mins to walk from my pre match pub (Five Swans) to SJP. I reckon I could get to the Town Moor in 20.

 

Aside from all that if people want a bigger more modern stadium that allows 20k more fans access to home games there will be one or two compromises that'll need to be made. You can't have it all!

 

Says a lot about the demographic of our match going fans if walking from central Newcastle to the south end of the town moor is considered too long, or difficult.

 

I'm not advocating moving to the Town Moor, but it's hardly a massive slog from the city centre. I walk Northumberland Street to south end of moor most days, it takes me 10 mins and I've got a gammy knee.

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Wandy]

2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Says a lot about the demographic of our match going fans if walking from central Newcastle to the south end of the town moor is considered too long, or difficult.

 

I'm not advocating moving to the Town Moor, but it's hardly a massive slog from the city centre. I walk it most days in 10 mins and I've got a gammy knee.

The walk isn’t the problem, but how you access it is. If the site is on the moor, alongside the motorway, how do people get to the site?

[LFEE]

Just now, Wandy said:

The walk isn’t the problem, but how you access it is. If the site is on the moor, alongside the motorway, how do people get to the site?

Was there not 150-300K on it in March? 

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

They’ve all been built because they make more money as they are. For a normal person wanting to go and watch a game of football none are better are ours.

 

Nonsense. 

 

Our stadium building is a lopsided hodge podge of various eras, some of which is from the early 70's and none of it has been modernized in 25 years and it was left to rot for most of the last 20 years.

 

People love it because of how unusual it looks. Or they love the emotion and history attached to the site.

 

When it comes to the actual concrete and steel, it's not the best building to watch football in England.

 

For starters, there's lots of areas where you can't even see the entire stadium. If you're at the back of the Gallowgate then tens of thousands of fellow fans in L7 Leazes and Milburn aren't even visible and vice versa.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[J7]

The Town Moor is a quick walk through the uni from the top of Northumberland Street. It’s hardly strenuous. We usually park around Claremont Road for a night game coming from the north. 

[bobbydazzla]

8 minutes ago, Wandy said:

The walk isn’t the problem, but how you access it is. If the site is on the moor, alongside the motorway, how do people get to the site?

 

How do tens of thousands of people get to the gigs and festivals that they have on the moor.

 

But because you're building a new stadium you assess the infrastructure and make some improvements to the access routes as part of the construction project. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Bellis80]

I don’t go to the football to see the rest of the stadium or what the building looks like from the outside.
 

Go to the upper tier at Spurs and see how far away you are watching the game. Or City or the Emirates. And the concourses are still rammed and you’re better missing some of the game to get a piss quickly. All of them are more of a pain in the arse to get to or get away from.

[Wandy]

11 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Was there not 150-300K on it in March? 

 

You'd think they wouldn't be putting the stadium on that part of the moor though.

[Wandy]

6 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

How do tens of thousands of people get to the gigs and festivals that they have on the moor.

 

But because you're building a new stadium you assess the infrastructure and make some improvements to the access routes as part of the construction project. 

 

IMO the issue is that those gigs are rare events that the locals tolerate. 70k football fans on their streets every 10 days or so? That would be a different matter.

[JT24]

Via all the articles this morning from the Hopkinson and Wilson sit down, it certainly sounds like the new stadium rhetoric is being walked back. 
 

Makes you think. 

[Wallsendmag]

7 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

IMO the issue is that those gigs are rare events that the locals tolerate. 70k football fans on their streets every 10 days or so? That would be a different matter.

 

Or 25 days out of 365 depending on your point of view. As I said earlier the vast majority of fans would still be accessing from the city centre, not Jesmond.

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

IMO the issue is that those gigs are rare events that the locals tolerate. 70k football fans on their streets every 10 days or so? That would be a different matter.

 

I've got no idea what the locals would think. That's what a planning consultation process is for. 

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

I don’t go to the football to see the rest of the stadium or what the building looks like from the outside.
 

Go to the upper tier at Spurs and see how far away you are watching the game. Or City or the Emirates. And the concourses are still rammed and you’re better missing some of the game to get a piss quickly. All of them are more of a pain in the arse to get to or get away from.

 

Let's just keep the current St James' Park exactly how it is until you stop going to the match then. 

 

And for what it's worth I usually don't go for a piss between kick off and full time. So pissability in a new stadium is low down on my list of priorities. 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Sima]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Let's just keep the current St James' Park exactly how it is until you stop going to the match then.

 

That's likely to happen anyway tbf.

[Bellis80]

4 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Let's just keep the current St James' Park exactly how it is until you stop going to the match then. 

 

And for what it's worth I usually don't go for a piss between kick off and full time. So pissability in a new stadium is low down on my list of priorities. 

 

 

 

What do you want then? Just size and a nice building?

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, Bellis80 said:

What do you want then? Just size and a nice building?

The facility to allow more fans into the ground, with top class facilities for current fans and new fans attending. Something which St James' will never provide 

[Kid Icarus]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

I'm not watching that Tyneside Life gubbins, so you'll have to tell me what in the park needs demolishing ? There's a duck pond, a band stand and a derelict house.

 

Your posts make more sense now I know you didn't even watch it.

[bobbydazzla]

25 minutes ago, Sima said:

 

That's likely to happen anyway tbf.

 

Good point.

 

The club should probably put out some comms to say we're definitely going for a new stadium, but the East Stand regulars don't need to worry themselves about it.

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Your posts make more sense now I know you didn't even watch it.

 

I've seen some of his other videos and they're nonsense.

 

Am not giving him money by clicking on his shite.

 

[Bellis80]

4 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

The facility to allow more fans into the ground, with top class facilities for current fans and new fans attending. Something which St James' will never provide 

Fair enough. I don’t really understand what facilities normal fans need though. Every new ground i’ve been to has been no easier or better to use the facilities that I need at a game of football (drink or a piss) and watching the game has been worse.

 

Spurs is lovely inside an hour before the game or after the game but you’re in there an hour before the game and staying after because it is such a pain in the arse to get to/away from.

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

The comms around stadium expansion / redevelopment have been an absolute mess. 

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, Bellis80 said:

Fair enough. I don’t really understand what facilities normal fans need though. Every new ground i’ve been to has been no easier or better to use the facilities that I need at a game of football (drink or a piss) and watching the game has been worse.

 

Spurs is lovely inside an hour before the game or after the game but you’re in there an hour before the game and staying after because it is such a pain in the arse to get to/away from.

It's called increasing revenue streams. You might not like improved facilities or bother with them and that's totally your choice. The vast majority will though, just an example look at the Stack, which is jammed packed every game and also brings in much needed revenue on non match days also. This will be fully replicated and increased with a new stadium. 

[Wallsendmag]

31 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

I don’t go to the football to see the rest of the stadium or what the building looks like from the outside.
 

Go to the upper tier at Spurs and see how far away you are watching the game. Or City or the Emirates. And the concourses are still rammed and you’re better missing some of the game to get a piss quickly. All of them are more of a pain in the arse to get to or get away from.

 

Spurs and Arsenal or even the likes of Wembley are completely different to SJP. The Upper sections continue around the entire stadium meaning that you don't get that detached, cut off feeling from the rest of the fans, and even the match, as you do when you're stuck up in L7. Also the vast majority of the Gallowgate, the entire East Stand and parts of the Leazes can't even see the scoreboard at SJP because of the design of the place. It's massively outdated these days sadly. Even the newest bits are 25 years old.

[bobbydazzla]

19 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

What do you want then? Just size and a nice building?

 

Bigger capacity, modern facilities, better acoustics to help the atmosphere, a balanced layout rather than 2 massive stands and two smaller stands, to be able to see all parts of the ground from most seats in the ground,

A tannoy system (Partridge) that actually works properly. Large screens are necessary these days so having one or more that can be seen by the entire stadium.

Massive swathes of safe standing in at least 2 x single tier stands.

 

When it's not being used for football, a world class stadium that could be used to host music events and not require the compromises we have to make currently in terms of sound and layout.

Even just having enough female toilets so thousands of lasses didn't have to squat over a urinal trough at gigs would be a nice touch.

 

And that's just off the top of my head.

 

 

Edited December 4, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Wallsendmag]

The reality though.....