Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 It's not, but that bit is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Nah you're right, Leeds and Manchester City Centres are better away from the Quayside or Dean Street. Northumberland Street for example is the pits these days. Beggars, tramps, charvers and pigeons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 That huge luminous advertising screen they put up near the top of Northumberland Street is an abomination. Sums up some of the development, occupying space just for the sake of it with no effort to blend in to what is already there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 That huge luminous advertising screen they put up near the top of Northumberland Street is an abomination. Sums up some of the development, occupying space just for the sake of it with no effort to blend in to what is already there. Yup. I think the Haymarket Metro station is one of the most hideous buildings I've ever seen too, made worse by the fact it's always covered in advertising boards for it's eternally empty office space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I have no strong feelings towards Haymarket Metro station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I have no strong feelings towards Haymarket Metro station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Nah you're right, Leeds and Manchester City Centres are better away from the Quayside or Dean Street. Northumberland Street for example is the pits these days. Beggars, tramps, charvers and pigeons! Nah, I meant that Newcastle City Centre isn't the way you say it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosforth Lad Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Whoever said Newcastle is becoming a bit like Leeds/Manchester is right IMO. Far too many sterile looking, cheap and bland buildings popping up in prime real estate areas too. Thankfully I rarely visit the Centre these days, its awful. I appreciate I am new on here so I say this with all due respect, but you are talking nonsense when you say the city centre is 'awful'. I don't live in the city anymore, but I love close enough that it is always my destination of choice when going shopping etc. with the kids. I love taking them to the places I enjoyed as a young boy: Fenwicks (toy department!), Mark Toney's for an ice cream, Exhibition Park etc. Yes, I would agree that there is a proliferation of student flats and development that could equally be at home in the likes of Manchester or Leeds, but if you can't see past that to admire the majesty of Grey Street, Grey's Monument and Grainger Town (never mind the units at the ground floor, look up!), or enjoy the likes of Fenwicks (give me that any day of the week over Harvey Nicks) and the brilliant pubs, then that is a shame. I'm not that well travelled but I've been a few places and nobody will ever convince me that my home town isn't the greatest city on earth. And yes I'm biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Whoever said Newcastle is becoming a bit like Leeds/Manchester is right IMO. Far too many sterile looking, cheap and bland buildings popping up in prime real estate areas too. Thankfully I rarely visit the Centre these days, its awful. I appreciate I am new on here so I say this with all due respect, but you are talking nonsense when you say the city centre is 'awful'. I don't live in the city anymore, but I love close enough that it is always my destination of choice when going shopping etc. with the kids. I love taking them to the places I enjoyed as a young boy: Fenwicks (toy department!), Mark Toney's for an ice cream, Exhibition Park etc. Yes, I would agree that there is a proliferation of student flats and development that could equally be at home in the likes of Manchester or Leeds, but if you can't see past that to admire the majesty of Grey Street, Grey's Monument and Grainger Town (never mind the units at the ground floor, look up!), or enjoy the likes of Fenwicks (give me that any day of the week over Harvey Nicks) and the brilliant pubs, then that is a shame. I'm not that well travelled but I've been a few places and nobody will ever convince me that my home town isn't the greatest city on earth. And yes I'm biased. Couldn't agree more. Newcastle city centre is miles ahead of the likes of Leeds and Manchester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosforth Lad Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Nah you're right, Leeds and Manchester City Centres are better away from the Quayside or Dean Street. Northumberland Street for example is the pits these days. Beggars, tramps, charvers and pigeons! Neither of those cities have the iconic entrance to them. In fact, ask somebody that doesn't know Newcastle, Leeds or Manchester to name a famous landmark of each and I'll bet my bollocks they'll name one from the town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I have no strong feelings towards Haymarket Metro station. That's fair enough like. It's just lazy architecture. Ugly with a load of weird design techniques shoved together. Oversized and blocls off views to St Thomas Church and the Civic Centre, creates a weird shadowy alleyway between it and the adjacent buildings. I mean it's a metro station, so nobody really cares what it looks like or how it functions, so it gets away with. Like you say with having no strong opinion on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Spend the vast majority of my waking life in the City Centre and it's great, in terms of shit to do and, for the most part, to look at. Not sure how HTT has ajudged it to be awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 HTT's been banging the 'Newcastle's a shit hole' drum for a while and no one's having it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 FWIW, I also think Newcastle is one of the best walkable cities of it's size anywhere I've ever been. And actually the variety of architecture is one of the things I love most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Nah you're right, Leeds and Manchester City Centres are better away from the Quayside or Dean Street. Northumberland Street for example is the pits these days. Beggars, tramps, charvers and pigeons! Neither of those cities have the iconic entrance to them. In fact, ask somebody that doesn't know Newcastle, Leeds or Manchester to name a famous landmark of each and I'll bet my bollocks they'll name one from the town. Agreed. Leeds has no real focal point or anything that makes it really stand out aside from The Royal Armories and the museum. Manchester's canny, but everything's really spread out. Newcastle and Liverpool both have that compact feel to them that I really like, Edinburgh's decent, London's what you make of it, and Brighton and York are great. More on cities next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I was in Leeds for the Bradford game. It really lacks a core centre to it. Also thought the area where the Armories is around the canals is underwhelming; very unoriginal post-industrial development. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I love Newcastle. Northumberland Street is a major downside but the rest, especially Grey Street, is beautiful. I'm going to Manchester in January as I'm going to Man City away () with a Man City supporting mate, him in the home end and me in the Toon end, and I doubt Manchester will be able to compare like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Nah you're right, Leeds and Manchester City Centres are better away from the Quayside or Dean Street. Northumberland Street for example is the pits these days. Beggars, tramps, charvers and pigeons! Neither of those cities have the iconic entrance to them. In fact, ask somebody that doesn't know Newcastle, Leeds or Manchester to name a famous landmark of each and I'll bet my bollocks they'll name one from the town. Agreed. Leeds has no real focal point or anything that makes it really stand out aside from The Royal Armories and the museum. Manchester's canny, but everything's really spread out. Newcastle and Liverpool both have that compact feel to them that I really like, Edinburgh's decent, London's what you make of it, and Brighton and York are great. More on cities next week. I liked Glasgow from the brief time I spent there the other month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I was in Leeds for the Bradford game. It really lacks a core centre to it. Also thought the area where the Armories is around the canals is underwhelming; very unoriginal post-industrial development. Cracking museum though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Don't think the building in the picture is the problem, think it's the one further back that is the biggest problem as it's further forward and would be close to the footprint of an expenasion of the gallowgate. However Nexus are trying to get it moved further back because the current location would prevent an West end expansion from SJP Metro station. http://i1.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article10164889.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/JS73415633.jpg If either of the two proposals above are how it ends up then NUFC are screwed. Honestly, in 32 years of following NUFC I've seen plenty of heartbreaking moments....relegations, selling off local superstar players, blowing 12 point leads, Keegan being forced out etc etc but none of it hurts more than this. And that's because the damage done by ambitionless owners, inept managers & players, relegations & cup loses can all be repaired but this cannot be. Once it's completed it will be permanent. On of the most iconic city views is taken away forever and NUFC's status ceiling as a second tier Premier League club is cemented, destined to never again compete with the current top seven clubs in England. Hell, even Sunderland could eclipse us one day as they have ample room to expand to 60,000 and beyond. When this abortion of a development is finished the vast potential that everyone feels has always been there, lying dormant, within NUFC is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 As an outsider with little connection to the city outside of the football club I can tell you that it is a beautiful place and miles better than anything I've seen in Leeds or Manchester. My wife, who has zero connection to the city, really loved it and she's generally 'meh' about England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Heartbreaking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Whoever said Newcastle is becoming a bit like Leeds/Manchester is right IMO. Far too many sterile looking, cheap and bland buildings popping up in prime real estate areas too. Thankfully I rarely visit the Centre these days, its awful. I appreciate I am new on here so I say this with all due respect, but you are talking nonsense when you say the city centre is 'awful'. I don't live in the city anymore, but I love close enough that it is always my destination of choice when going shopping etc. with the kids. I love taking them to the places I enjoyed as a young boy: Fenwicks (toy department!), Mark Toney's for an ice cream, Exhibition Park etc. Yes, I would agree that there is a proliferation of student flats and development that could equally be at home in the likes of Manchester or Leeds, but if you can't see past that to admire the majesty of Grey Street, Grey's Monument and Grainger Town (never mind the units at the ground floor, look up!), or enjoy the likes of Fenwicks (give me that any day of the week over Harvey Nicks) and the brilliant pubs, then that is a shame. I'm not that well travelled but I've been a few places and nobody will ever convince me that my home town isn't the greatest city on earth. And yes I'm biased. I admire lots about our City Centre, but its becoming a pretty bland and uninspiring place these days for all kinds of things other than the occasional night out drinking and dining. Its focusing too much on students and office space and cheap and tatty shops and it can be awful at times. Although that's largely down to some of the people that inhabit it on a daily basis, beggars, charvers and fucking charity sales people etc. I genuinely think remove the Quayside/Central Station area and Grey Street and its just a bland old boring City Centre. Northumberland Street is shit, The Gate is shit and the Bigg Market and Haymarket likewise. Although I quite like some of the pubs around the Haymarket. I have probably visited every city and town in England, Scotland and Wales and although Newcastle is great compared to many, compared to say Leeds or Manchester, it certainly isn't the Greatest City on Earth. I personally would like to see more open space for pop up events and market stalls. I'd like to see less traffic in the City Centre and I'd like to see some new additions aimed at leisure rather than shopping and fucking eating. How many shops and food joins does a relatively small City need. Things like an ice rink, an open exercise park for example. A water fountain maybe. Less ugly buildings for students and office space, less stupid shops that sell the same shit as any other but under a different name/brand and less fucking kebabs and bookies. Its Adelaide Terrace but NE1... I'm probably a miserable old cunt these days, but the idea of me visiting the City Centre other than for a piss up with the lads sounds horrendous. Me if I was in charge I'd build the world's biggest car park where the Arena is and all that other disused land and run electric buses into Town from there and make it a pedestrian area with more open space. Do away with the daft polluting buses clogging up the roads and other traffic. Similar to Manheim in Germany who has trams and small buses and a nice clean and freed up centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I was in Leeds for the Bradford game. It really lacks a core centre to it. Also thought the area where the Armories is around the canals is underwhelming; very unoriginal post-industrial development. Cracking museum though. The whole area is typical of that 1990s/early 2000s regeneration. "Shit the industry has gone, let's get some office/service sector stuff in ASAP". Not bad by any means, and certainly important economically for cities in the north, but just a bit bland in hindsight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I was in Leeds last week, the actual City Centre seems far less jam packed in terms of people, traffic and buildings than Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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