St James' Park

[Whitley mag]

I’d imagine we’ll hear something soon on the training ground.

 

This season has been anti climatic after the CL exit, but who knows win tomorrow and the city goes into a cup frenzy and 40k will be planning another weekend in the smoke.

 

The summer will see a new DOF, new signings, opening of new stack and adidas launch.

 

There building slowly and sustainably don’t think we can grumble to much.

 

 

[Guest]

Show me plans for a new training ground and I will stop complaining for at least three months

[RodneyCisse]

22 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

I’d imagine we’ll hear something soon on the training ground.

 

This season has been anti climatic after the CL exit, but who knows win tomorrow and the city goes into a cup frenzy and 40k will be planning another weekend in the smoke.

 

The summer will see a new DOF, new signings, opening of new stack and adidas launch.

 

There building slowly and sustainably don’t think we can grumble to much.

 

 

We’d be in the championship without everyone involved.

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That’s an incredibly negative spin like

It is  - but I’m watching and just scratching my head at the moment.  It isn’t clear at all how they intend to bridge a massive gap - and in fairness, they’re the ones who made the bold statements

[El Prontonise]

2 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

I’d imagine we’ll hear something soon on the training ground.

 

This season has been anti climatic after the CL exit, but who knows win tomorrow and the city goes into a cup frenzy and 40k will be planning another weekend in the smoke.

 

The summer will see a new DOF, new signings, opening of new stack and adidas launch.

 

There building slowly and sustainably don’t think we can grumble to much.

 

 

 

That stack will be the biggest anti climax going.  It's some hipsters selling overpriced beer and ultra processed food.

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, Conjo said:

 

Sorry, but that is utter bullshit

 

Information no quicker than under Ashley? Specific examples please? What are you expecting exactly? I thought we wanted experts to do the job, rather than some rich know nothings running the ship. 

We're one of the highest spenders in the league since the takeover. We're investing in top youth talent for the future, we hire among the top people within their field of expertise for backroom positions. We have increased our revenue significantly season by season.

Calling last season a fluke is ott. We overperformed a bit I'm sure by riding on the positivity wave around the whole club, but we were fucking excellent as well, as we have at times this season too. We'd be a hell of a lot better off than we are this season if we had a normal season injury/suspension wise which would have further debunked the "fluke".

 

Edit: It is one of the nastiest regimes on the planet. No arguments there.

 

 

 

When I said ‘fluke’, I didn’t mean that the players and management didn’t deserve it - I mean it wasn’t planned or anticipated

[LFEE]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It is  - but I’m watching and just scratching my head at the moment.  It isn’t clear at all how they intend to bridge a massive gap - and in fairness, they’re the ones who made the bold statements

They made the statements minutes after the deal was sealed. You are aware the other clubs have ganged together to change several rules to slow our progress down severely? You do follow current events?

 

Just enjoy the ride. Might take 10 years or so but we’ll get there if everyone sticks together. However if we’ve vocal idiots wanting to hound Howe out at the first sign of a dip it may take even longer…

 

Patience.

[TheBrownBottle]

6 minutes ago, LFEE said:

They made the statements minutes after the deal was sealed. You are aware the other clubs have ganged together to change several rules to slow our progress down severely? You do follow current events?

 

Just enjoy the ride. Might take 10 years or so but we’ll get there if everyone sticks together. However if we’ve vocal idiots wanting to hound Howe out at the first sign of a dip it may take even longer…

 

Patience.

Tbf I do follow current events - to date, the other clubs have ganged up and we've tacitly approved their actions.  Doing nothing while having blind faith that something will happen isn't likely to produce results would be my view.

 

Agree re Howe though - I think he's made errors but anyone hounding him out is just daft

[et tu brute]

10 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

That’s an incredibly negative spin like

I totally disagree with thebrownbottle on the ownership and what will happen. Only time will tell on who is ultimately right though. I think we will hear some big things come the summer. 

[Thumbheed]

Mad what a few losses can do to a person

 

 

[TheBrownBottle]

45 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

Mad what a few losses can do to a person

 

 

You should see what a few wins do mind

 

[OpenC]

[duo]

On 15/03/2024 at 07:44, r0cafella said:

And sorry for the double post but the more I think about it, the more I think a new stadium is an absolute must. 

A must? I think the complete opposite- St James is our identity. Our history. I personally hope we never move.

[r0cafella]

25 minutes ago, duo said:

A must? I think the complete opposite- St James is our identity. Our history. I personally hope we never move.

You, we need to increase revenue and I don’t think we can raise enough at SJP to compete with the big 6. It’s quite clear we are going to have to raise revenue organically as related party transactions have been shut down. 
 

Adding say 8k regular seats won’t be enough to bridge the gap, we need a more modern experience. 
 

Ultimately if people are content with finishing upper mid table we can carry on as we are but we are at the glass ceiling already. 

[TheBrownBottle]

31 minutes ago, duo said:

A must? I think the complete opposite- St James is our identity. Our history. I personally hope we never move.

It’s not our identity man - and to go all ‘ship of Theseus’, not one of those stands has seen us win a major trophy

[Nucasol]

31 minutes ago, duo said:

A must? I think the complete opposite- St James is our identity. Our history. I personally hope we never move.

I’m sure Everton fans said the same and have an even more storied history but I doubt they’ll be complaining when they leave the shit pit that is Goodison to go to the stunner that is Bramley Moore Dock.

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

You, we need to increase revenue and I don’t think we can raise enough at SJP to compete with the big 6. It’s quite clear we are going to have to raise revenue organically as related party transactions have been shut down. 
 

Adding say 8k regular seats won’t be enough to bridge the gap, we need a more modern experience. 
 

Ultimately if people are content with finishing upper mid table we can carry on as we are but we are at the glass ceiling already. 

We will also lose revenue whilst the building work is completed and a large number of season ticket holders will be unable to attend. 

[PauloGeordio]

 

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

We will also lose revenue whilst the building work is completed and a large number of season ticket holders will be unable to attend. 

Short termism and “what about me” > long term progression of the club. It’ll be the usual moaning cunts who are just happy to have an afternoon away from the wife and a skinful who stunt the growth potential of NUFC.

[duo]

All that pain  hurt, frustration, disappointment is soaked into the wall of St James. And I think it'd be fitting for us to win a trophy there. 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, duo said:

All that pain  hurt, frustration, disappointment is soaked into the wall of St James. And I think it'd be fitting for us to win a trophy there. 

Nowt would make me happier than bagging some tin pots and then sailing off to a brand spanking new ground, no doubt about that

[Groundhog63]

Just now, duo said:

All that pain  hurt, frustration, disappointment is soaked into the wall of St James. And I think it'd be fitting for us to win a trophy there. 

There's gallons of hot steaming piss soaked into the foundations of the Gallowgate end as well mind

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said:

There's gallons of hot steaming piss soaked into the foundations of the Gallowgate end as well mind

Getting misty eyed thinking about the Gallowgate bogs.  Though that might be a physical memory of the strong pissy ammonia smell

[Wallsendmag]

10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It’s not our identity man - and to go all ‘ship of Theseus’, not one of those stands has seen us win a major trophy

 

It's the same patch of land as when I started going back in 1984 but that's about it. Maybe the East Stand exterior hasn't changed either other than they've taken the old East Stand ticket office windows out and bricked them up. Think it's been used before, but it's the old Triggers broom anology.

 

I've never liked it post 2000. It's a hotch potch of different sized stands, doesn't hold in the atmosphere particularly well, and they aren very limited in what they can do from a corporate point of view, which fair enough isn't my thing, but is a vital part of PL clubs revenue streams in this day and age.

 

I know people say new stadiums lose their atmosphere but SJP isn't particularly great on that front anyway and anyone who's been to Atletico Madrid or to a lesser extent Bilbao can confirm that new stadiums can be just as atmospheric, if not moreso than the ones they replaced.

 

If we could secure Leazes Park or Castle Leazes that would be perfect. 70k/75k stadium which propels us right up amongst the elite. 

[Nucasol]

11 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Think it's been used before, but it's the old Triggers broom analogy.

Perfect that. I also don’t have much love for the lopsided mess that it’s become.