St James' Park

[Nucasol]

3 minutes ago, Checko said:

What if PIF just were to just buy Sunderland FC and wind the club down? Then there'd be a free stadium for us to use.

Mordor away every other week.

[Dr Jinx]

4 minutes ago, Checko said:

What if PIF just were to just buy Sunderland FC and wind the club down? Then there'd be a free stadium for us to use.

[Joelinton7]

Buy ‘em out boys!

[gjohnson]

2 hours ago, Checko said:

What if PIF just were to just buy Sunderland FC and wind the club down? Then there'd be a free stadium for us to use.

We didn't get rich by signing a lot of cheques

[Guest]

Club announce we are staying at st James' park after feasibility study is complete.......

 

Let's have another 300 posts about playing at the stadium of light or moving shit to beamish 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said:

Club announce we are staying at st James' park after feasibility study is complete.......

 

Let's have another 300 posts about playing at the stadium of light or moving shit to beamish 

Club haven’t announced anything

[Guest]

35 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

Club haven’t announced anything

Aye, was thinking that as soon as I typed it. But everything suggests we are staying 

[Keegans Export]

1 hour ago, Jack27 said:

Club haven’t announced anything

Move his post brick by brick to Beamish-Online.org

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Keegans Export said:

Move his post brick by brick to Beamish-Online.org

Post by post

[TheBrownBottle]

13 hours ago, Checko said:

What if PIF just were to just buy Sunderland FC and wind the club down? Then there'd be a free stadium for us to use.

They wouldn’t need to - my understanding from RTG is that if Saudi Arabia had taken over Sunderland, not one of them would attend another game.  Because they have their morals. 

[Stifler]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

They wouldn’t need to - my understanding from RTG is that if Saudi Arabia had taken over Sunderland, not one of them would attend another game.  Because they have their morals. 

Says the fans of a club based in a city who have just voted for a right wing racist for mayor ahead of the morally conscious socialist they claim to be. 

[ExiledGeordie]

Anyone with any construction knowledge know how long (roughly) would completion of the Gallowgate extension take if it was cleared to go ahead? 
 

Did I see 8000 extra seated mooted?

[Nucasol]

7 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Anyone with any construction knowledge know how long (roughly) would completion of the Gallowgate extension take if it was cleared to go ahead? 
 

Did I see 8000 extra seated mooted?

Using Liverpool’s Anfield Road extension as a proxy (albeit hindered by Covid timelines and a contractor going bust it seems about 5 years from planning permission to completion. Feels a bit long. That would also be challenging for us as a Euro 2028 venue.

 

The club spent the second half of 2019 finalising plans and consulting local residents, planning officials and other stakeholders with a view to submitting the new plans for approval in early 2020.

 

However, in March 2020 Liverpool delayed submitting a planning application for the project in light of financial uncertainty caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

In December 2020, Liverpool announced that they would be moving forward with the project by submitting final planning application for the redevelopment, with the delay pushing back the initial completion date for Phase Two redevelopment from summer 2022 to summer 2023 at the earliest.

 

The plans were approved by the Liverpool City Council in June 2021. The expansion was expected to cost £60 million and allowed Anfield Road stand to seat 7,000 more people, giving the stadium a total capacity of 61,000.

 

Work by contractor Buckingham Group officially commenced on September 30, 2021, with the first sod being turned by manager Jürgen Klopp. The stand was expected to be completed during the 2023–24 season and will also see the relocation of the Family Park to a covered position.

 

However, on August 17, 2023, Buckingham announced it would be filing for administration, jeopardising timely completion of the new £80 million stand.

 

On September 7, 2023, the club took control of the project, appointing Rayner Rowen Construction to complete the stand using as many of the original subcontractors as possible.

 

In October 2023, Liverpool announced that the upper part of the new developed stand will not be open to the public "until the end of 2023".

 

On November 23, the club anticipated half of the new upper tier would be available for a Premier League match against Manchester United on December 17, 2023. Much of the stand opened for Liverpool's home Premier League game against Burnley FC on February 10, 2024.

[ExiledGeordie]

5 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Using Liverpool’s Anfield Road extension as a proxy (albeit hindered by Covid timelines and a contractor going bust it seems about 5 years from planning permission to completion. Feels a bit long. That would also be challenging for us as a Euro 2028 venue.

 

The club spent the second half of 2019 finalising plans and consulting local residents, planning officials and other stakeholders with a view to submitting the new plans for approval in early 2020.

 

However, in March 2020 Liverpool delayed submitting a planning application for the project in light of financial uncertainty caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

In December 2020, Liverpool announced that they would be moving forward with the project by submitting final planning application for the redevelopment, with the delay pushing back the initial completion date for Phase Two redevelopment from summer 2022 to summer 2023 at the earliest.

 

The plans were approved by the Liverpool City Council in June 2021. The expansion was expected to cost £60 million and allowed Anfield Road stand to seat 7,000 more people, giving the stadium a total capacity of 61,000.

 

Work by contractor Buckingham Group officially commenced on September 30, 2021, with the first sod being turned by manager Jürgen Klopp. The stand was expected to be completed during the 2023–24 season and will also see the relocation of the Family Park to a covered position.

 

However, on August 17, 2023, Buckingham announced it would be filing for administration, jeopardising timely completion of the new £80 million stand.

 

On September 7, 2023, the club took control of the project, appointing Rayner Rowen Construction to complete the stand using as many of the original subcontractors as possible.

 

In October 2023, Liverpool announced that the upper part of the new developed stand will not be open to the public "until the end of 2023".

 

On November 23, the club anticipated half of the new upper tier would be available for a Premier League match against Manchester United on December 17, 2023. Much of the stand opened for Liverpool's home Premier League game against Burnley FC on February 10, 2024.

Cheers thanks for that. I guess the added complication for us is the metro underneath and the road which ambulances use but architects can do wonders thesedays. 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Cheers thanks for that. I guess the added complication for us is the metro underneath and the road which ambulances use but architects can do wonders thesedays. 

Civil and structural engineers will need to do wonders - but the laws of physics don’t change.  I’m still scratching my head as to how you meet the foundation requirements over the top of a Metro station. 

[Guest]

As someone who has played 1000s of hours in City Skylines, I can assure you none of that matters.

[Away Toon]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/videos/c0v02xj9e73o

 

If we ever want to compete at the top level something similar is what our owners should be aiming to do. Show us the ambition.

[HalloNUFC]

Despite all online outrage, they would take the ground sharing opportunity on first opportunity.

Decent money they can make+ having healthy relationship with our owner is lucrative to most businessmen.

 

They shows their intent last time with the bar makeover fisco.

 

The question is only about security.

 

Although, it's entirely possible to play through SJP while work is going on in one section, let say eaststand like happen during last extension.

 

only a spurs style redevelopment needs a ground sharing.

 

 

 

 

 

[Jackie Broon]

6 hours ago, Away Toon said:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/videos/c0v02xj9e73o

 

If we ever want to compete at the top level something similar is what our owners should be aiming to do. Show us the ambition.

 

Matchday revenue is only a small proportion of Premier League clubs' revenue, less than 15% on average. Our stadium isn't going to make the difference between us competeing at the top level or not.

[NE27]

21 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Matchday revenue is only a small proportion of Premier League clubs' revenue, less than 15% on average. Our stadium isn't going to make the difference between us competeing at the top level or not.

 

Financially probably not, but prestige and really acting like a top club (which they want us to be).

 

Spurs stadium probably does a lot of heavy lifting for them when selling themselves to potential players.

 

We've normally been ok in this department as players and managers alike make note of how the stadium can be when in full flow. But it is falling behind and they need a massive rethink on fan allocation to ensure St James stays a fortress and the right fans are grouped together.

[Guest]

 

[Pablo]

If it’s a simple 8,000 increase in capacity, that’s going to be swallowed up by new corporate and hospitality offerings so the membership base and new fans are going to benefit much. Whilst the club can only spend what it generates I would be worried if I was a season ticket holder too, the costs of which may well skyrocket in the coming years.

Irrespective of which camp I was in, I genuinely think a capacity below 75,000 will have an adverse impact on all current matchgoing fans as demand will outstrip supply and the only leveller will be price increases. Legacy fans won’t hold much sway if they can’t pay.

I’m not yet convinced this expansion is the true outcome of the feasibility study, and will only believe it when reported through numerous reputable media outlets, and the club themselves. I wouldn’t be surprised if a story was leaked to gather more feedback on fan opinion.

fwiw, I favour a small move to Leazes Park or Castle Leazes, and a World Class stadium as a true marker of intent. With a massive capacity this may provide some cheaper seats, though probably in the gods.

[timeEd32]

1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said:

 

Matchday revenue is only a small proportion of Premier League clubs' revenue, less than 15% on average. Our stadium isn't going to make the difference between us competeing at the top level or not.

 

We've already discussed this multiple times. In short, that's not true.

[huss9]

5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

We've already discussed this multiple times. In short, that's not true.

8000 extra tickets is at least an extra £400k per game

[Nucasol]

7 minutes ago, huss9 said:

8000 extra tickets is at least an extra £400k per game

Long payback period - say 25 games a season that’s £10m each year in revenue. Given some of the numbers being floated about to revamp the Gallowgate it’ll be a significant amount of years to claw it back.