lovejoy Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 great article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. Did anyone else spot the irony? you mean they copy and paste from here and toontastic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. Good article. But there is a simple solution and one big step forward in the right direction cures a lot of nerves....Get a decent management team. Aye well, if only. /You wouldn't believe the caliber of manager Shepherd can attract. Prepare to be pleasently surprised! FF should hire an management intervention team for 6 months to look at what needs changing at the club and also take advice on the new appointment. Aye, it sounds a bit management speak, but he could do a lot worse than paying a team of consultants to look at our current setup and at successful management/coaching structures at other big clubs and trying to implement similar here. He'd probably be looking at a hefty bill for it, but it would pay for itself in the long term. such as expanding the stadium and building a new training complex ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Leazes, do you class Roeder as a 'good appointment'? PS - yes or no answer will suffice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. That's who the editor wanted - I write (well, waffle nonsense!) for tf and I wanted Hitzfeld personally! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Good article but again, saying nowt new. As for the last line "what have we done to deserve this" - get a grip, we aren't victims FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andynufc84 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I like the paragraph wrote about Owen - Its 100% accurate imo People seem to think he's going to be the saviour when he returns, but how long until he's injured again? Will he ever consistently play enough games? I hate this 'when will you be back in the England frame Michael?' from the media - F*** that! He's an England player who earns money out of Newcastle United Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. Good article. But there is a simple solution and one big step forward in the right direction cures a lot of nerves....Get a decent management team. Aye well, if only. /You wouldn't believe the caliber of manager Shepherd can attract. Prepare to be pleasently surprised! FF should hire an management intervention team for 6 months to look at what needs changing at the club and also take advice on the new appointment. Aye, it sounds a bit management speak, but he could do a lot worse than paying a team of consultants to look at our current setup and at successful management/coaching structures at other big clubs and trying to implement similar here. He'd probably be looking at a hefty bill for it, but it would pay for itself in the long term. such as expanding the stadium and building a new training complex ? Yeah, but I think the consultants might have gone a bit more indepth than that. They might even have advocated hiring competent people to work in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. Good article. But there is a simple solution and one big step forward in the right direction cures a lot of nerves....Get a decent management team. Aye well, if only. /You wouldn't believe the caliber of manager Shepherd can attract. Prepare to be pleasently surprised! FF should hire an management intervention team for 6 months to look at what needs changing at the club and also take advice on the new appointment. Aye, it sounds a bit management speak, but he could do a lot worse than paying a team of consultants to look at our current setup and at successful management/coaching structures at other big clubs and trying to implement similar here. He'd probably be looking at a hefty bill for it, but it would pay for itself in the long term. such as expanding the stadium and building a new training complex ? Yeah, but I think the consultants might have gone a bit more indepth than that. They might even have advocated hiring competent people to work in them. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. Good article. But there is a simple solution and one big step forward in the right direction cures a lot of nerves....Get a decent management team. Aye well, if only. /You wouldn't believe the caliber of manager Shepherd can attract. Prepare to be pleasently surprised! FF should hire an management intervention team for 6 months to look at what needs changing at the club and also take advice on the new appointment. Aye, it sounds a bit management speak, but he could do a lot worse than paying a team of consultants to look at our current setup and at successful management/coaching structures at other big clubs and trying to implement similar here. He'd probably be looking at a hefty bill for it, but it would pay for itself in the long term. such as expanding the stadium and building a new training complex ? Yeah, but I think the consultants might have gone a bit more indepth than that. They might even have advocated hiring competent people to work in them. As in more european qualifications over a decade, bar 4, you mean ? Quite staggering, for an accountant, not to realise that when you are the major shareholders, you happen to call the shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 Good article but again, saying nowt new. As for the last line "what have we done to deserve this" - get a grip, we aren't victims FFS You can't say anything new, it's all been said before because we've known the problems for long enough. The more the message goes out the more people will listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif mackems.gif Nowt to say as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif mackems.gif Nowt to say as usual MORE IRONY!!!! Fuke me this gets better! mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. Did anyone else spot the irony? mackems.gif mackems.gif Nowt to say as usual MORE IRONY!!!! Fuke me this gets better! mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Seriously Baggio, instead of following me around...and claiming this is me when I have never posted on usenet, why don't you show us your intelligence and dispute the actual content of the post ? BTW - I don't want to see you banned, or anyone else for that matter unlike toonstaylor, but you/we/us have been asked to stop this inter-forum malarkey ........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 fucking spam bot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Seriously Baggio, instead of following me around...and claiming this is me when I have never posted on usenet, why don't you show us your intelligence and dispute the actual content of the post ? BTW - I don't want to see you banned, or anyone else for that matter unlike toonstaylor, but you/we/us have been asked to stop this inter-forum malarkey ........ Aye right. Not my fault a new rule was invented to stop you wrecking the forum over and over again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 fucking spam bot who ? do you think someone is a troll just because they disagree know better than you If YOU aren't a troll, reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. The Beermonster said... On the basis that Dalglish had the best CV second to none, 4 league titles, 3 FA Cups, and 3 manager of the year awards ... oh aye Freddie can't appoint top managers can he........LOL http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.sport.football.clubs.newcastle-united/browse_thread/thread/dd9d19baff9f921f/9a78958d1a8a07ba?q=beermonster+dalglish&lnk=ol&hl=en& Seriously Baggio, instead of following me around...and claiming this is me when I have never posted on usenet, why don't you show us your intelligence and dispute the actual content of the post ? BTW - I don't want to see you banned, or anyone else for that matter unlike toonstaylor, but you/we/us have been asked to stop this inter-forum malarkey ........ Aye right. Not my fault a new rule was invented to stop you wrecking the forum over and over again. I'm not wrecking anything. I just have a different opinion to you. And unfortunately for you, I can back it up with facts, and experience from a first hand view of what I have witnessed while supporting the club. You see, in my opinion, people like you who have no original thoughts, repeat what others say and worst of all say they supported the club when they were shit and you didn't, to be wrecking the forum. Whatever. I believe there is also a rule saying that people who encourage others to be banned will themselves be banned ? But I now think there is no point in responding to you ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 I could copy and paste it, but it is a long old piece. Suffice to say, it may be stating the obvious and maybe just reiterating what many are already saying but that is not necessarily a bad thing per se. Anyhoo it's here - http://true-faith.co.uk/html/tbawe.htm Oh, did I mention that it is a little depressing. A decent enough read, but hoo boy, keep a hankie handy. Or a punch bag. to be honest, they have been re-hashing the same stuff for months now. They also backed Martin O'Neill as our saviour, who is currently below us in the league and has been for quite a while too. that makes the whole article wrong i guess.. but still do you think Glenn Roeder was a better choice for a manager? on paper, or by track record, Kenny Dalglish was better than both of them put together ..... You can't prove by example, as they say. 4 League Titles with 2 different clubs, and 3 manager of the year awards proves the point. But you can continue to make an "opinion" not based on fact, if you like. But we don't appoint top managers. You miss my point. It's some record he has, sure. And yes, I'll concede that appointing a manager with that sort of record isn't 100% guaranteed to go perfectly. But it's no reason not to, say, look for one better, or at least as good. Perhaps there are some criteria Dalglish was lacking. Is Roeder better than Dalglish? What about Souness? You're the one forming a faulty opinion. Regardless of any sentiment of mine, you can't _prove by example_ as you're attempting to do. Are you arguing that we shouldn't continue to employ top managers, as Dalglish failed? Well, that'd be marvellous! Everyone forms opinions based upon the facts as they see them - or as they choose them - for some reason you think you're unique in basing your arguments on selective criteria. I'm afraid everyone does that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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