KaKa Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 At the rate he's going he'll have pissed everyone off bar his 3 signings. bit of a job having to sign 8 in the summer so why doesn't he just admit he isn't up to the job and fuck off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. I think it was you who recently defended Roeder and said that he must be our manager for next season Do you still think the same way?? About the thread its obvious for everybody that he is clueless Why play Moore when he is finished here? Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Why do you play this shit troll Carr every game? Roeder is even worse then Souness... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Zog will definitely be one of them and a good possibility Emre but I can't imagine who the rest are. He loves Duff, Carr, Butt, Martins. Milner always works his arse off and has probably been one of our most productive players this season. I would imagine Taylor is his type of player. Solano has been one of our best this season. Harper is a keeper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Roeder actually IS worst then souness in my opinion,for many reasons,one of them is his failure to motivate anybody,i.e look at Parker,before he broke Bullards leg he was this maniac who makes fully commeted tackles at almost any possible chance,AFTER he broke Bullards leg,it seems he is afraid to Tackle anyone,Even Luque can Tackle better then him these days Another Example is Luque,even though he hadn't got enough games under Roeder,but he was such a world class player before he joined us,now he gets the odd 10 mins every 15 games,and his confidence is really shot down and will propbly be the first player we will sell come next seasonalla N'Zogbia is also another example,since his father died his he just never looked the same,seems to be going from bad to worst by every game. Roeder SHOULD BE SACK ASAP,simple as that.. Back to the original topic,i think Bramble,N'Zogbia,Luque and Emre are his usuall scapegoats,Don't know about today because all of the players played pretty average.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eyeball_tickler Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 another thread about roeder. put it in the post match comments thread! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Roeder actually IS worst then souness in my opinion,for many reasons,one of them is his failure to motivate anybody,i.e look at Parker,before he broke Bullards leg he was this maniac who makes fully commeted tackles at almost any possible chance,AFTER he broke Bullards leg,it seems he is afraid to Tackle anyone,Even Luque can Tackle better then him these days Another Example is Luque,even though he hadn't got enough games under Roeder,but he was such a world class player before he joined us,now he gets the odd 10 mins every 15 games,and his confidence is really shot down and will propbly be the first player we will sell come next seasonalla N'Zogbia is also another example,since his father died his he just never looked the same,seems to be going from bad to worst by every game. Roeder SHOULD BE SACK ASAP,simple as that.. Back to the original topic,i think Bramble,N'Zogbia,Luque Agree with you here Under Souness Parker was our best player and now under Roeder he is nowhere near that form Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Parker was a pure DM under Souness. We lacked movement all over the midfield and up front. The only role with any chance of success in that mess was Parker's. We're far better off with Roeder than with Souness, and that's a fact. We're still crap, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 we only lost by one goal, so the lying little cunt will probably end up blaming Pompey for trying to win the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Another Example is Luque,even though he hadn't got enough games under Roeder,but he was such a world class player before he joined us, No wonder Real have to call themselves Galacticos if this is the standard nowadays... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Another Example is Luque,even though he hadn't got enough games under Roeder,but he was such a world class player before he joined us, No wonder Real have to call themselves Galacticos if this is the standard nowadays... I take that you didnt see him back in his Deportivo days? he actually was world class,still can't understand what the fuck happend to him after moving here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 he actually was world class No, he wasn't. He was a decent player, but as far away from being "world class" as Roeder from being a manager of Premierleague standard... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Luque was very good player before he came here but Roeder just dont like him as a player and never gave him a chance You cant prove youself as a player when you play 10min every 1month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 we only lost by one goal, so the lying little c*** will probably end up blaming Pompey for trying to win the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Luque was very good player before he came here but Roeder just dont like him as a player and never gave him a chance You cant prove youself as a player when you play 10min every 1month you've clearly seen him play dozens of times live for Depor. have you ever seen him play for us? because he has shown fuck all ability, team play or worth, beforethe lying cockney arse was unfortunately appointed. he's been bloody awful, and its mainly been his fault. thank god he'll be away soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Luque was very good player before he came here but Roeder just dont like him as a player and never gave him a chance You cant prove youself as a player when you play 10min every 1month you've clearly seen him play dozens of times live for Depor. have you ever seen him play for us? because he has shown f*** all ability, team play or worth, beforethe lying cockney arse was unfortunately appointed. he's been bloody awful, and its mainly been his fault. thank god he'll be away soon. Yes i have watched him at Deportivo and i watched him when he played for us Im not denying that every time he was playing for us he showed very little and it seems like he dont care Yes he has been awful but you cant put all the fault at him You cant deny that he never had proper run of games under Roeder Imagine like playing Martins 10min every 1month,do you think he will be any good Im not defending Luque or anthing like that,its obvious that he is off in the summer and i wish him good luck All im saying is that Roeder doesnt like him at the start and he never gave him a chance,thats all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 under both managers, Luque failed to show even any individual ability. so he can fuck off, same as the other players who aren't good enough. i can name ten off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FlapjackJoe Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. I think it was you who recently defended Roeder and said that he must be our manager for next season Do you still think the same way?? About the thread its obvious for everybody that he is clueless Why play Moore when he is finished here? Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Why do you play this shit troll Carr every game? Roeder is even worse then Souness... Why play Moore when he is finished here? Because he's our least error-prone experienced central defender (which isn't much of an achievement, admittedly) Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? To give him a chance to play, since Duff's the first choice left winger, obviously. Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Because Luque's crap and lacks commitment. And Carroll's 17. Why do you play this shit troll Carr every game? Because we have no one else that can play let-back. Simple really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. I think it was you who recently defended Roeder and said that he must be our manager for next season Do you still think the same way?? About the thread its obvious for everybody that he is clueless Why play Moore when he is finished here? Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Roeder is even worse then Souness... Why play Moore when he is finished here? Because he's our least error-prone experienced central defender (which isn't much of an achievement, admittedly) Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? To give him a chance to play, since Duff's the first choice left winger, obviously. Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Because Luque's crap and lacks commitment. And Carroll's 17. Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Because we have no one else that can play let-back. Simple really. Moore is slower than my granddad,he dont have any real motivation to play for us because he will be gone in 4 games.He is big injury prone and he proved that yesterday.Roeder should have played Gooch at the begining.The lad wasnt playing anything super but so far he didnt make any vital errors which was followed by a goal.He is far motivated then Moore because he is no loan here and he is fighting for his future here,for his contract,because he said that he wants to be here.And thats what kind of players we need here.Fighters who can show spirit and desire to play for this club It was obvious in the Arsenal game that Zoggy cant play upfront with Martins,he cant hold the ball,cant make the runs Dyers is making which i believe is Roeder intention to play him there.And why on earth when you see that something is not working you are continuing to do the same.That shows real incompetence and Roeder has alot of this As it proved after the game Luque and Carroll didnt played so badly as we all expected and if they were playing at the start of the game maybe things would have finished differently.So it was another mistake from Roeder not to play Luque or Carroll alongside Oba.We all know that Oba is struggling when he plays alone upfront Edgar.The lad has showed good potential in the few games he played for us but Roeder didnt see that as usual.He continued to play Huntington,Babayaro and Carr there although they were shit as always of course.He should have give Edgar a chance long time ago but as a said earlier he is too incompetent to see this things And the last thing.Are you defending Roeder or what??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Roeder isn't worse than Souness and Luque wasn't a world class player before he joined us. Both those arguments are laughable, here :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Roeder's scapegoats are the ones who show no respect his wisdom in the dressing room. And a delicate gentleman like Glenn can't tolerate this. i can imagine N'Zogbia looking murderous at him all the time and i bet Luque ignores him totally.. i bet Martins doesn't understand Roeder's instructions at all, which would explain why he has been the only decent attacking player this season.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. I think it was you who recently defended Roeder and said that he must be our manager for next season Do you still think the same way?? About the thread its obvious for everybody that he is clueless Why play Moore when he is finished here? Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Roeder is even worse then Souness... Why play Moore when he is finished here? Because he's our least error-prone experienced central defender (which isn't much of an achievement, admittedly) Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? To give him a chance to play, since Duff's the first choice left winger, obviously. Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Because Luque's crap and lacks commitment. And Carroll's 17. Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Because we have no one else that can play let-back. Simple really. Moore is slower than my granddad,he dont have any real motivation to play for us because he will be gone in 4 games.He is big injury prone and he proved that yesterday.Roeder should have played Gooch at the begining.The lad wasnt playing anything super but so far he didnt make any vital errors which was followed by a goal.He is far motivated then Moore because he is no loan here and he is fighting for his future here,for his contract,because he said that he wants to be here.And thats what kind of players we need here.Fighters who can show spirit and desire to play for this club It was obvious in the Arsenal game that Zoggy cant play upfront with Martins,he cant hold the ball,cant make the runs Dyers is making which i believe is Roeder intention to play him there.And why on earth when you see that something is not working you are continuing to do the same.That shows real incompetence and Roeder has alot of this As it proved after the game Luque and Carroll didnt played so badly as we all expected and if they were playing at the start of the game maybe things would have finished differently.So it was another mistake from Roeder not to play Luque or Carroll alongside Oba.We all know that Oba is struggling when he plays alone upfront Edgar.The lad has showed good potential in the few games he played for us but Roeder didnt see that as usual.He continued to play Huntington,Babayaro and Carr there although they were shit as always of course.He should have give Edgar a chance long time ago but as a said earlier he is too incompetent to see this things And the last thing.Are you defending Roeder or what??? I agree Moore is shite, but Gooch is too. He has been responsible for 2 goals with poor play or getting turned. Charlton is one that springs to mind. For a big player he has no real jump either. I would have played Huntington over those too unless he is injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 It's now obvious we'll keep Gooch over Bramble as Roeder keeps playing Gooch. We're just fucked, basically is what I'm saying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today. Who do you think they were? I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano. Roeder was idiotic today and here's why... We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today??? Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great. N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect. It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on. I think it was you who recently defended Roeder and said that he must be our manager for next season Do you still think the same way?? About the thread its obvious for everybody that he is clueless Why play Moore when he is finished here? Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Roeder is even worse then Souness... Why play Moore when he is finished here? Because he's our least error-prone experienced central defender (which isn't much of an achievement, admittedly) Why play Zoggy in that position when he was crap against Arsenal? To give him a chance to play, since Duff's the first choice left winger, obviously. Why dont you play Luque or Carroll alongside with Martins? Because Luque's crap and lacks commitment. And Carroll's 17. Why do you play this s*** troll Carr every game? Because we have no one else that can play let-back. Simple really. Moore is slower than my granddad,he dont have any real motivation to play for us because he will be gone in 4 games.He is big injury prone and he proved that yesterday.Roeder should have played Gooch at the begining.The lad wasnt playing anything super but so far he didnt make any vital errors which was followed by a goal.He is far motivated then Moore because he is no loan here and he is fighting for his future here,for his contract,because he said that he wants to be here.And thats what kind of players we need here.Fighters who can show spirit and desire to play for this club It was obvious in the Arsenal game that Zoggy cant play upfront with Martins,he cant hold the ball,cant make the runs Dyers is making which i believe is Roeder intention to play him there.And why on earth when you see that something is not working you are continuing to do the same.That shows real incompetence and Roeder has alot of this As it proved after the game Luque and Carroll didnt played so badly as we all expected and if they were playing at the start of the game maybe things would have finished differently.So it was another mistake from Roeder not to play Luque or Carroll alongside Oba.We all know that Oba is struggling when he plays alone upfront Edgar.The lad has showed good potential in the few games he played for us but Roeder didnt see that as usual.He continued to play Huntington,Babayaro and Carr there although they were s*** as always of course.He should have give Edgar a chance long time ago but as a said earlier he is too incompetent to see this things And the last thing.Are you defending Roeder or what??? I agree Moore is s****, but Gooch is too. He has been responsible for 2 goals with poor play or getting turned. Charlton is one that springs to mind. For a big player he has no real jump either. I would have played Huntington over those too unless he is injured. Gooch wasnt too imppresive true but at least he has something to play for unlike Moore-wining a permanent deal When you mention Huntington i had rather play Edgar.I dont know why Roeder is picking Hunty over Edgar,he played superb and still Roeder plays Hunty who was terrible in the last games he played for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 It's now obvious we'll keep Gooch over Bramble as Roeder keeps playing Gooch. We're just f*****, basically is what I'm saying ye, he's picking him on the bench which doesn't really mean roeder will keep him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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