Guest graemeh72 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Maybe I'm the only person to think this, but I think that Roeder is laying some good foundations at the club and I think that changing the manager would be a dreadful thing to do. The last thing we want is another manager and another transition season. (I'm not an allardyce fan either btw) I trust Roeder and Pearson to get the right defenders in for next year, lets be honest - they can't be any worse than the ones on the way out!! Midfield is OK and would be better if they weren't shitting themselves about having a rubbish back 4 stood behind them. Up front will undoubtedly be stronger with Owen and Shola. From what I can see continuity is the key to success, and it even took Bobby 2 years to sort out Gullits mess before we could challenge - and Sir Bob was one of the best managers in the world. KK had a good few years to build his side. Lets keep Roeder, give the man a chance to build his side - rather than have to muddle by with the likes of Carr, Bramble, Moore and Babayaro. Allardyce, Sven etc etc - no thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Continuity isn't the key to success - having the right people with the right skills in charge is the key to success. I agree mind, stick with Roeder if we can't get anyone significantly better. But if there is even a chance of getting someone much better in, we should go for it and to hell with the claptrap of continuity and stability. Means nowt if the jocky riding the horse can't even ride a fucking bike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 You're spot on there like, you are the only one who thinks that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redmayne Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 probably are the only person that thinks that!! the guys a retard and what evidence is there of better foundations? as far as i can tell he hasn't done anything to improve the club at all.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I fear a transitional period, but there's money to spend in the summer and Roeder doesn't have 'his own' squad yet. Get him out and give it to someone competent to build a squad. The effect of a transitional period would effectively be nullified, seeing as we're already in one anyway, one that is going in the wrong direction at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redmayne Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 or perhaps you have had a chat with the 3rd person glen roeder who advises you that Glen Roeder is not responsible for any decisions made by Glen Roeder... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Although it would never happen I am in favour of keeping Glenn at the club. i think he definitely has a value but as first team manager.... its just never going to happen for him and i think there is already too much negative feeling about his style of management/football being played for him to reverse it. Sadly, managers never take a demotion so his only way out is a sacking.... be it sooner rather than later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nappy Rash Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 You're not alone Graeme, definitely in the minority I will say, but on here thats positively a good thing Im not as confident as you with regard to him getting the right players in, but I certainly wouldnt sacrifice him for Allardyce or anyone of his ilk and I would comfortably have bet against Roeder finishing above Allardyce again next season had he not resigned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I can't see Roeder getting us into the top 6 tbh. The fact we're 16 points off last seasons total with just 9 to play for suggests he's taking us in the wrong direction. Especially considering the standard of the league as a whole has lowered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon55544 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 we will be in the bottom 6 next season if Roeder is still in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I trust Roeder and Pearson to get the right defenders in for next year Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest redmayne Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 we'll be relegation material if he stays and i bet our better (and there aren't many) players will be screaming to leave except Dyer of course who is on astronomical wages.... its a mess at the minute - look at the football on display!!!!!! reading are a far less capable side yet they are playing attractive football and picking up points we aren't!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Roeder is a shit manager......he's proved this for few clubs before us. Out you go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I trust Roeder and Pearson to get the right defenders in for next year Why? This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Top 6 is totally unrealistic. I think the best we can expect/hope for of a team with Roeder is the same position as this year... and that is purely based on us having the same level of luck that we have had this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nappy Rash Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Top 6 is totally unrealistic. I think the best we can expect/hope for of a team with Roeder is the same position as this year... and that is purely based on us having the same level of luck that we have had this year. Aye totally unrealistic, where did he finish last Year with a team that was heading down (general consensus on here) Relegation is far more realistic, 7th and down remember mackems.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest graemeh72 Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 I trust Roeder and Pearson to get the right defenders in for next year Why? For a start I think Pearson is a good defensive coach, I don't think it’s especially difficult to get 2 better fullbacks than Baba and Carr - and I believe that Roeder will get hold of a couple of centrebacks that have good potential. I find it refreshing that he hasn't run out and panic bought - cough boumsong cough luque cough. Pound for pound Roeders signings don't look that bad to me - martins will get better, duff has too much quality to have another bad injury led season and sib is a cheap stopgap Yes Roeder has made mistakes but I also think he learns from those mistakes. Sacking Roeder and rushing in yet another manager would be symptomatic of the problems in modern day football - and that includes our club. Short termism, Too many phone ins, journos trying to sell papers - "Sack y - hire z" - its all bollocks - based on getting a load of people who essentially know the square root of fuck all about football to buy newspapers and look at websites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Top 6 is totally unrealistic. I think the best we can expect/hope for of a team with Roeder is the same position as this year... and that is purely based on us having the same level of luck that we have had this year. Aye totally unrealistic, where did he finish last Year with a team that was heading down (general consensus on here) Relegation is far more realistic, 7th and down remember mackems.gif Where will we finish this season? Next season we will strugle even more when we lose players this summer and Roeder fucks up another transfer window! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Top 6 is totally unrealistic. I think the best we can expect/hope for of a team with Roeder is the same position as this year... and that is purely based on us having the same level of luck that we have had this year. Aye totally unrealistic, where did he finish last Year with a team that was heading down (general consensus on here) Relegation is far more realistic, 7th and down remember mackems.gif Typical honeymoon period... happens time and time again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nappy Rash Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Gejon Unfortunately I havent received my standard issue Neurotic Online Crystal Ball so I cant answer your question. But I'd guess there is no way on this Earth we can be dealt another death card in the injury stakes and so I'd guess everyone will be looking for the top 6. Bolton are losing their Manager, Spuds have already been trounced by our reserves again this season twice and I dont see any reason why we couldnt do that again, Blackburn, Reading, Pompey, Villa.................nowt seperating them really is there. Outside the top 4 there is literally fuck all. Rob So it was a honeymoon period and nothing more, but the injuries this season havent played a part im guessing. I cant believe you dont work in the game to be honest mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Obi's posts a carbon copy of the ones he made about Souness, you'd think he'd learn. Thick as mince. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 But Nappy, our best run of results came at the peak of the injury 'crisis'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Outside the top 4 there is literally fuck all. So what does that say about out current position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 Gejon Unfortunately I havent received my standard issue Neurotic Online Crystal Ball so I cant answer your question. But I'd guess there is no way on this Earth we can be dealt another death card in the injury stakes and so I'd guess everyone will be looking for the top 6. Bolton are losing their Manager, Spuds have already been trounced by our reserves again this season twice and I dont see any reason why we couldnt do that again, Blackburn, Reading, Pompey, Villa.................nowt seperating them really is there. Outside the top 4 there is literally fuck all. Rob So it was a honeymoon period and nothing more, but the injuries this season havent played a part im guessing. I cant believe you dont work in the game to be honest mate. We "trounced" spurs did we? It must mean something different here. Does it mean "somehow we scraped to a win when we were getting completely bummed for the majority of the game" ? If so then I apologise and you are indeed correct, we trounced them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nappy Rash Posted April 29, 2007 Share Posted April 29, 2007 We "trounced" spurs did we? It must mean something different here. Does it mean "somehow we scraped to a win when we were getting completely bummed for the majority of the game" ? If so then I apologise and you are indeed correct, we trounced them! 3-1 and should have been more at home, another 3 goals at WHL in a fortuitous win granted. They were beaten twice at home in 2006, 3-1 both times, should have been more both times and I think they were possibly the worst side that Year, on two occassions, quite an achievement. Please ignore all salient points as often as possible, Im sure it'll get you through til Happy Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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