Sparks Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Who do people think will now stay at the club with Allardyce taking over? One of Allardyce qualities is his ability to rejuvenate players who have lost their way, so which of the many players who have underachieved here will now stay? One of Souness's great failings was his inability to understand what had failed before him and he would endlessly try things that had not worked before under SBR. Ala dropping Robert and wondering why we were not creating anything or playing Shearer and Ameobi upfront together. This is potentially something that concerns me with Allardyce, the likes of Carr, Babayaro, Bramble, Luque, Gooch and Moore were history under Roeder yet now they could start next season not only still in our squad but in our first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 With Luque he has the talent to work with. Allardyce might see him as a challenge. Also , if he's going to use the same formation as he has at Bolton, then there's not many better for the left-forward position than Luque at his best. I still think the likely candidates will all go though with the exception of maybe Carr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Hope N'Zogbia looks at the change and works hard to get back on form instead of just pissing off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 With Luque he has the talent to work with. Allardyce might see him as a challenge. Also , if he's going to use the same formation as he has at Bolton, then there's not many better for the left-forward position than Luque at his best. I still think the likely candidates will all go though with the exception of maybe Carr. Agree with all of that, would be interesting to see if he do do anything with Luque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 At their best this would be a canny front six Parker Dyer Emre Martins Owen Luque Although, i'm convinced Luque has gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 bramble come on,someone had to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I would love it if he could get Luque back to the way he was at Deportivo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I would love it if he could get Luque back to the way he was at Deportivo. There's no chance. I was just "supposing". More chance of getting Bernard into France's Euro 2008 squad than Luque looking interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 At their best this would be a canny front six Parker Dyer Emre Martins Owen Luque Although, i'm convinced Luque has gone. That with N'zogbia/ Duff for Luque would do tbh. Just need a whole new back 4 then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 this is the thing, attacking wise, we have a a potentially quality side, it would just be nice to see all of them on form at the same time and working as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 gooch for his long throws! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Anyone else think someone like Salgado would be a typical Allardyce signing? Get him in with Ben Haim & Distin, and we're a left-back short of looking very decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 gooch for his long throws! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon83 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 N'Zogbia is the only one i would keep out of the rumoured doomed players under Roeder, although Bramble might be worth a bit of work. Babayaro, Moore, Gooch, Luque, Bernard, Emre, should all go and add Keiron Dyer, Stephen Carr and Scott Parker to that list IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 How many signings are you expecting in the summer Toon83? You very very rarely see sides making 9 changes out and around the same in, in one summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 gooch for his long throws! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon83 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 How many signings are you expecting in the summer Toon83? You very very rarely see sides making 9 changes out and around the same in, in one summer. All i did was list the players rumoured to be going under Roeder and then added a couple from speculation i've heard, and added Scott Parker as an opinion I can honestly see Big Sam having a big clear out, maybe not 9 but atleast 6 and gettin a few frees such as Viduka, Distin, Ben Haim and then a few more to cover the outgoings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Zoggy will be talked round I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 He'll want to assess each player first, which is the best policy IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 With Duff out for 6 months Zog should have enough opportunities to show what he can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 With Duff out for 6 months Zog should have enough opportunities to show what he can do. or,in the interests of balance,can't do (i'm a bloody stirrer) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 He'll want to assess each player first, which is the best policy IMO. I'm not so sure about that, if he's scouted the team (when we played them) as well as he is supposed to then he'll be aware of all the weak links in our side, he's probably had an eye on all of our players in the final year of their conract for the past few months too with a view of signing them for Bolton. I can see big changes though, plenty of players coming in who are out of contract with our lot in the same position going out, he'll also move on some of the players on big wages who he can cash in on who aren't worth what their transfer fee will be(Dyer, Parker) players like Ameobi, Butt, Carr, Babayaro, Milner and Ramage will be safe for this season. I also think he'll relish working with Emre as he likes to convert players with a bad reputation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Bramble would be shit under any managers in the world tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 N'Zogbia & Luque - hopefully. Bramble - unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko1892 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 gooch for his long throws! Being fair I've been thinking exactly the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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