Offshore Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 On top of that they are one of those sides that would be desperate to get into a breakaway league where they actually have to play a bit to win. Why would they be desperate to give up their trophys to be thrashed every week by the worlds elite? Maybe to join the Premiership yes but there's no chance of a european league ever working, they tried to leave two years ago if I remember rightly over TV money and all the other clubs in Scotland just said 'right f*** off then' and the old firm backed down. They wanted a bigger share of the tv deal as they know that they are the only major draw. It's money, prestige and to be in a decent league that they want, if a super league ever did come about they'd fight like hell to get in. They could probably field their reserve teams in the SPL and still be competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Im in agreeance with many on here, this European Super League would be the death of footy. Yep it would be awesome to see the toon playing the Euro Elite, but cant we just concentrate on getting into the CL to do that? If we played Barca etc every week, it would soon lose its appeal, esp as people say, theres no local rivalry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I read on the BBC the other day the 3 British teams that will be invited will be Chelsea, Rangers and Celtic. It said nothing about us http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6667439.stm That's the link to the article from Thursday with quotes from the new G14 president Aulas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Johan Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 If you start a Superleague and it works out you would have great chances to increase profits big time for all clubs. If you compare to American leagues, which it would probably be modelled after you would probably see wage caps for all teams and maybe down the stretch a draft system. It would break traditions sure, but lets face it any league where 1 - 4 teams are in with a chance of winning kind of sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Much as I hate Chel$ki - kudos to them for not being a member of this club The only reason they aren't is because they don't meet the criteria..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Much as I hate Chel$ki - kudos to them for not being a member of this club The only reason they aren't is because they don't meet the criteria..... Which criteria don't they meet? I suspect it is the criteria of not being a threat to the long term income stream of Manchester United and Liverpool. Greed, greed, greed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Stadium capacity (there stadium is basically utter shit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Stadium capacity (there stadium is basically utter shit). Cant be that, there capacity is no worse than many of the teams already in G14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 There is no real criteria for joining the G14, that is what makes it so laughable. Look at the presence of Bayer Leverkusen for the best example. They used to laughably suggest that the clubs within the G14 were the most successful in European competition, which is a joke, given that by their own scoring system, Nottingham Forest had more points than Arsenal. There's no two ways about it, the only criteria that matters in admitting clubs is whether they fit in with plans to satisfy the never-ending greed of the clubs already there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Stadium capacity (there stadium is basically utter s***). Cant be that, there capacity is no worse than many of the teams already in G14 Those teams got into the G14 before that criteria was in place. At the time Chelsea were absolute nobodies on the world stage with a coefficient ranking outside the top 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shepherd88 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 On the back page of the Sunday Sun in the North today. Basically saying that the G14 is doubling its membership from 18 to 36 and there are two criteria that need to be met. The 1st is that the club must hold a ground over 50,000 capacity and the 2nd is that they must have a good UEFA coefficient and since Newcastle have both they're gonna be invited later this year. Also carried on talking about the rumours being spread that they want to form their own European Super League and Newcastle would be involved in that were they accepted into the G14. Will try and get the full story here later on, it's not online so it's a case of writing it ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 So you honestly think the G14 wouldnt want Chelsea in a Euro Super League, purely because their stadium doesnt hold enough people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Chelsea have been inivted to a few G14 meetings as special guests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 There is no real criteria for joining the G14, that is what makes it so laughable. Look at the presence of Bayer Leverkusen for the best example. They used to laughably suggest that the clubs within the G14 were the most successful in European competition, which is a joke, given that by their own scoring system, Nottingham Forest had more points than Arsenal. There's no two ways about it, the only criteria that matters in admitting clubs is whether they fit in with plans to satisfy the never-ending greed of the clubs already there. They must hold some sort of importance to there criteria if they're going to ask Newcastle to join. Because I really don't see how we fit into there big plans at the moment outside of our big stadium and high Uefa ranking. Then again I'm sure they'll find some way to ignore this if they ever decide they really need Chelsea in there group. I'm certainly not going to assume that greasy russian has refused an offer to join them at this point though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 There is no real criteria for joining the G14, that is what makes it so laughable. Look at the presence of Bayer Leverkusen for the best example. They used to laughably suggest that the clubs within the G14 were the most successful in European competition, which is a joke, given that by their own scoring system, Nottingham Forest had more points than Arsenal. There's no two ways about it, the only criteria that matters in admitting clubs is whether they fit in with plans to satisfy the never-ending greed of the clubs already there. They must hold some sort of importance to there criteria if they're going to ask Newcastle to join. Because I really don't see how we fit into there big plans at the moment outside of our big stadium and high Uefa ranking. Then again I'm sure they'll find some way to ignore this if they ever decide they really need Chelsea in there group. I'm certainly not going to assume that greasy russian has refused an offer to join them at this point though. The fact that Chelsea are not in the G14 and Bayer Leverkusen are tells you all you need to know about G14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The fact that Chelsea are not in the G14 and Bayer Leverkusen are tells you all you need to know about G14. Doesnt tell me much more than Leverkusen were Champions League finalists and a very good team when the G14 was formed and they havent expanded since Chelsea became "big" tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The fact that Chelsea are not in the G14 and Bayer Leverkusen are tells you all you need to know about G14. Doesnt tell me much more than Leverkusen were Champions League finalists and a very good team when the G14 was formed and they havent expanded since Chelsea became "big" tbh. .. which shows the folly of basing an elite league on a snapshot of football at any given time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 I fucking hate the G14. As for a European Super League, the idea is sickening and I don't like the way it keeps being mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC06 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The fact that Chelsea are not in the G14 and Bayer Leverkusen are tells you all you need to know about G14. Doesnt tell me much more than Leverkusen were Champions League finalists and a very good team when the G14 was formed and they havent expanded since Chelsea became "big" tbh. Aye At that time Leverkusen were finalist of the Champions league,they were challenging for the German tittle and were finalist of the German Cup.They were very successful club at that time. At that time Chelsea were nowhere near this success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Immsy7 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 IMHO, a European superleague will not happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 A European Super League will not happen for a number of reasons in my opinion, one of them being because any clubs that break away from their domestic and international affiliations to form a new one will not be able to register players under contract with clubs from the affiliations they left to form this new league and nor will any discarded players by these so-called elite clubs be allowed back into domestic home and European football. Furthermore there is international football to consider too. In short no player or club would ever risk it for a gamble and that's what a European Super League would be. Can't see it happening and view all such talks as a flexing of muscles which usually works and these clubs know it. I don't want NUFC to join the "G-14" either so echo many views in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Would be great if the top four fuked off, the fans would soon get sick of playing euro football and only that week in week out, while they miss out on the EPL & FA cup nevermind CL football which would just mean teams like ourselves, Tottenham etc will grow in size and become the new top dogs. When they get bored of playing the same lot over and over again with no cups to entertain, they'll try and come back and the FA's of all the countries will just tell them to shove it. Correct if am wrong, but that's the only way i can see it working out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The G14 is an evil, evil cabal which will contribute largely to the downfall of football, mark my words. And the only reason Chelsea aren't in it is because they won't let them join. this, on both counts. to those who said it don't think even for a minute chelsea are out of this because of choice, but its because when the G-14 was started they hadn't won their first title yet, and were a worse club than us. Dr Spectrum: you can't deny that joining the elite league would be good for newcastle. its reddiculous to say that even the current squad would lose 8-1 to barca (or be capable of beating everton 2-1). we would also improve massivley if we joined, and would be a much more attractive propostion to players, however, i think like said by brummie its a bad idea, and could ruin football, and for that reason i hope to god that it doesn't happen, although if it were to happen, from a purely selfish point of view i hope the toon would be included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 The fact that Chelsea are not in the G14 and Bayer Leverkusen are tells you all you need to know about G14. Doesnt tell me much more than Leverkusen were Champions League finalists and a very good team when the G14 was formed and they havent expanded since Chelsea became "big" tbh. Aye At that time Leverkusen were finalist of the Champions league,they were challenging for the German tittle and were finalist of the German Cup.They were very successful club at that time. At that time Chelsea were nowhere near this success Leverkusen have never won the league, have a shit history and a ground under 40,000 They are complete nobodies bankrolled by a local pharmaceutical company It's the equivalent of Dave Whelan using his JJB fortune to get Wigan in the Champions League and then getting invited to the G14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 didn't leverkusen make the final of the CL, then next season were knocked out in the second group stages, when we beat them 3-1 twice (the first game a shearer hattrick and the second game had a brace from none other than shola ameobi) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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