David Beckham

[Guest bimpy474]

Not sure you could turn a ginger midget into a global brand even if you wanted to.

 

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[Jayson]

Not sure you could turn a ginger midget into a global brand even if you wanted to.

 

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Basically this. Cant really give scholes plaudits when he didnt have the same options open to him.

[Flip]

Not sure you could turn a ginger midget into a global brand even if you wanted to.

 

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Basically this. Cant really give scholes plaudits when he didnt have the same options open to him.

 

 

Don't see what Beckham has done wrong either tbh. Played for the best teams in the world his whole career, granted he wasn't one of the best players around, but it's not like he embarrassed himself on the pitch either.

[Incognito]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

[Ste]

For most of his career, Beckham was a top pro. He's made a lot of money from the game and on the side but he's always trained well and grafted his nuts off to get to where he is.

[Ronaldo]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

[Cajun]

I like Beckham a lot. All players are out for themselves but he dared to play in several different countries, always put his all in, done well for England and seems like a decent bloke.

 

Can't fault him really. Yes he made a shed load of money and I am disappointed he didn't shag around a lot more given he could have basically had his pick of every woman I would chop my balls off to hug but we all have our weaknesses.

[Teasy]

Got to hand it to him - he took a slightly above average talent and made himself a shitload of cash without letting small things like class or loyalty getting in the way.

 

[alexf]

Seems to be whoring himself out a lot these days. Isn't he like some sort of ambassador for football in China now or something?

[Cajun]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

 

Only to those spending more time reading Heat than watching football matches

[Ronaldo]

Aye, all those football matches he massively impacted in the last 10 years of his career far outweigh the ludicrous outfits.

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[Cajun]

Aye, all those football matches he massively impacted in the last 10 years of his career far outweigh the ludicrous outfits.

 

The sarong is honestly the only one I can remember off the top of my head but tbf I cancelled my subscription to Closer in 1997.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

 

Will he fuck, football fans will remember him as a top player who played for Man Utd, Real, AC and England with distinction. Only your celeb obsessed brain dead sun reading morons will remember him for marrying a Spice Girl, wearing a dress etc.

 

I don't get the Beckam hate like. He is one of the best English players of all-time, is a thoroughly nice bloke and on the pitch gave it his all. So what if he's a huge star away from the pitch, good luck to the man.

 

In an age where the likes of Joey Barton are fawned over or Ballotelli regarded as legends, Beckham really is a global football icon, someone we should be applauding not slagging. The man has made the absolute most of his career and life without being a cunt, flaunting himself or going off the rails.

 

He was never in that very top bracket of players but there is no denying he was a great player. That performance for England against Greece remains one of the best individual performances I've ever seen. I've yet to see a better all-round passer or crosser of a ball either, traits often downplayed as key attributes in the pace and skillz obsessed mindset of the FIFA generation these days.

 

David Beckham will be remembered as one of the greatest players England has produced and indeed one of our most successfull.

[LucaAltieri]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

 

Will he fuck, football fans will remember him as a top player who played for Man Utd, Real, AC and England with distinction. Only your celeb obsessed brain dead sun reading morons will remember him for marrying a Spice Girl, wearing a dress etc.

 

I don't get the Beckam hate like. He is one of the best English players of all-time, is a thoroughly nice bloke and on the pitch gave it his all. So what if he's a huge star away from the pitch, good luck to the man.

 

In an age where the likes of Joey Barton are fawned over or Ballotelli regarded as legends, Beckham really is a global football icon, someone we should be applauding not slagging. The man has made the absolute most of his career and life without being a cunt, flaunting himself or going off the rails.

 

He was never in that very top bracket of players but there is no denying he was a great player. That performance for England against Greece remains one of the best individual performances I've ever seen. I've yet to see a better all-round passer or crosser of a ball either, traits often downplayed as key attributes in the pace and skillz obsessed mindset of the FIFA generation these days.

 

David Beckham will be remembered as one of the greatest players England has produced and indeed one of our most successfull.

 

100%

 

Some fuckers were just born to hate everything.

[Guest n4e]

Yep, would have to agree with that.

[Yorkie]

Yep, that's how I see it too. I thought he was an absolutely brilliant player, too. Such vision and technique in the pass.

[Cajun]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

 

Will he fuck, football fans will remember him as a top player who played for Man Utd, Real, AC and England with distinction. Only your celeb obsessed brain dead sun reading morons will remember him for marrying a Spice Girl, wearing a dress etc.

 

I don't get the Beckam hate like. He is one of the best English players of all-time, is a thoroughly nice bloke and on the pitch gave it his all. So what if he's a huge star away from the pitch, good luck to the man.

 

In an age where the likes of Joey Barton are fawned over or Ballotelli regarded as legends, Beckham really is a global football icon, someone we should be applauding not slagging. The man has made the absolute most of his career and life without being a cunt, flaunting himself or going off the rails.

 

He was never in that very top bracket of players but there is no denying he was a great player. That performance for England against Greece remains one of the best individual performances I've ever seen. I've yet to see a better all-round passer or crosser of a ball either, traits often downplayed as key attributes in the pace and skillz obsessed mindset of the FIFA generation these days.

 

David Beckham will be remembered as one of the greatest players England has produced and indeed one of our most successfull.

 

[Crayola Kid]

265 games in sir Alex's first team, he's got to be ok?!  Then Madrid for over a hundred, same for England.  He was great man and if he was like another player, I'd throw in Kevin Keegan, as he has pushed himself to the limit of his talent, followed success at home by moving to another challenge abroad also successfully, and embraced the media opportunities that came his way.

Wor Kev could have had a very similar career if he had been born later (without the kegs adverts, ugly get tbf)

[Flip]

Lost any semblance of respect for him when he became a 'brand' rather than a footballer.

 

Why though? I honestly don't get the grief. He still racked up over 700 career appearances so it's definitely a case of 'as well as', as opposed to 'rather than'.

 

I just prefer footballers to keep themselves to themselves and go about trying to be the very best footballer they can be. To become famous for doing what they do better than almost everyone else.

 

He's always come across as far too desperate for publicity and fame. I always compare him to Paul Scholes, about the same age, same team, same training, same managers etc. One will go down as one of the best midfielders of his generation and the other married a spice girl, became a walking clothes-horse and hawked his brand at every possible opportunity to maximise his status/fame.

 

I know which one I've got the respect for.

 

As per Middsy nails it.

 

Indeed. Ultimately he'll be remembered more for his nonsense off the pitch.

 

Will he f***, football fans will remember him as a top player who played for Man Utd, Real, AC and England with distinction. Only your celeb obsessed brain dead sun reading morons will remember him for marrying a Spice Girl, wearing a dress etc.

 

I don't get the Beckam hate like. He is one of the best English players of all-time, is a thoroughly nice bloke and on the pitch gave it his all. So what if he's a huge star away from the pitch, good luck to the man.

 

In an age where the likes of Joey Barton are fawned over or Ballotelli regarded as legends, Beckham really is a global football icon, someone we should be applauding not slagging. The man has made the absolute most of his career and life without being a c***, flaunting himself or going off the rails.

 

He was never in that very top bracket of players but there is no denying he was a great player. That performance for England against Greece remains one of the best individual performances I've ever seen. I've yet to see a better all-round passer or crosser of a ball either, traits often downplayed as key attributes in the pace and skillz obsessed mindset of the FIFA generation these days.

 

David Beckham will be remembered as one of the greatest players England has produced and indeed one of our most successfull.

 

Although I wouldn't say he's the best all-round passer I've seen, but his right foot was certainly one of the best around during his time as a player.

[tmonkey]

Good player, nothing more for me. Was at his best between 98 and 2000, sticking to the wing in line with the opposition defence when possible, getting great crosses in, always providing width to his team, and generally keeping it simple for someone with no real pace, dribbling ability or trickery. But his game went to pot as soon as he started to drift around the pitch like a Zidane wannabe trying to spray 60 yard balls over the top, getting crosses in from far too deep as a result (as he was no longer interested in playing as a more orthodox winger). I think his media reputation was primarily responsible for affecting this change in his playing style (i.e. playing up to the ego of being a global superstar despite not having the talents for playing that way). And when he turned into "Beckham Superstar", I thought he absolutely ruined the balance of whatever team he was in because he added no width and was strolling around in useless positions trying the aforementioned long balls which destroyed team harmony. As soon as Real Madrid signed him (based on reputation alone) as a replacement for Makelele of all people, I thought he'd ruin their side, and surprise surprise they didn't win shit for nearly 5 years. Stood out like a sore thumb in that side imo.

 

I think the media whoring of him was annoying at times, an attempt at times to create a hero for the nation to get behind. HTT mentions the Greece game, the one where he was proclaimed by the media to have single-handedly saved England's World Cup campaign having played like a God, but to my eyes he pretty much did nothing except for chase the ball alot adding zero width to the side, and missed about 5 free kicks before getting 1 in at the end (against absolutely dire opposition and at what should have been a comfortable saving height if their keeper wasn't so crap). On top of this, all of the plaudits seemed to be completely overlooking the fact that had he not scored that free kick we'd have had a playoff against a piss poor Ukraine side and qualified anyway (Germany beat them by 5+ goals iirc in their qualifier) - if you're worried that you're not going to be able to beat Ukraine over 2 legs then why even bother with the World Cup? But back to Beckham, at that point of his career his game was very much all about playing for David Beckham the Superstar, hence why I think Sir Alex dropped him for Solskjaer long before any rumours of rows and flying boots came out (and I'm sure Beckham being unhappy started entirely because Sir Alex dropped him, justifiably so). Solskjaer, despite being out of position, stuck to the wing as high up as possible, added width to his team, and played it simple - things Beckham used to do before he let his reputation get to his head.

 

The sad thing is that there are many people who don't follow football (and some who do) who will definitely remember Beckham long after they've forgotten about Giggs, Keane and Scholes, players who were absolutely light years ahead of David and infinitely better footballers even in their twilight years. If anything, I think even at his best (as that orthodox right winger) David was the weak link in that "dream team" midfield ManU had. Put a Luis Figo in there instead of David and we'd have been in wet dream team territory.

[Robster]

He was/is both a great player and massive media whore.

I am so cynical nowadays about his love of being in the spotlight, that my first reaction, when I read about the documentary, The Class of 92, was 'I bet that was Beckham's idea'

[Cajun]

I thought it was ridiculous 'brand' Beckham went for much as he did when Nobby went for £2.5m but can anyone honestly say Nobby was by far the better player?

 

I think Beckham is underrated more than the opposite due to his good looks and spice girl wife.

[Guest hatem garrincha]

If we only talk football, he was a great player and an exemplary professional.

@tmonkey : he was great at Madrid imo.

 

[merlin]

Good player, nothing more for me. Was at his best between 98 and 2000, sticking to the wing in line with the opposition defence when possible, getting great crosses in, always providing width to his team, and generally keeping it simple for someone with no real pace, dribbling ability or trickery. But his game went to pot as soon as he started to drift around the pitch like a Zidane wannabe trying to spray 60 yard balls over the top, getting crosses in from far too deep as a result (as he was no longer interested in playing as a more orthodox winger). I think his media reputation was primarily responsible for affecting this change in his playing style (i.e. playing up to the ego of being a global superstar despite not having the talents for playing that way). And when he turned into "Beckham Superstar", I thought he absolutely ruined the balance of whatever team he was in because he added no width and was strolling around in useless positions trying the aforementioned long balls which destroyed team harmony. As soon as Real Madrid signed him (based on reputation alone) as a replacement for Makelele of all people, I thought he'd ruin their side, and surprise surprise they didn't win s*** for nearly 5 years. Stood out like a sore thumb in that side imo.

 

I think the media whoring of him was annoying at times, an attempt at times to create a hero for the nation to get behind. HTT mentions the Greece game, the one where he was proclaimed by the media to have single-handedly saved England's World Cup campaign having played like a God, but to my eyes he pretty much did nothing except for chase the ball alot adding zero width to the side, and missed about 5 free kicks before getting 1 in at the end (against absolutely dire opposition and at what should have been a comfortable saving height if their keeper wasn't so crap). On top of this, all of the plaudits seemed to be completely overlooking the fact that had he not scored that free kick we'd have had a playoff against a p*ss poor Ukraine side and qualified anyway (Germany beat them by 5+ goals iirc in their qualifier) - if you're worried that you're not going to be able to beat Ukraine over 2 legs then why even bother with the World Cup? But back to Beckham, at that point of his career his game was very much all about playing for David Beckham the Superstar, hence why I think Sir Alex dropped him for Solskjaer long before any rumours of rows and flying boots came out (and I'm sure Beckham being unhappy started entirely because Sir Alex dropped him, justifiably so). Solskjaer, despite being out of position, stuck to the wing as high up as possible, added width to his team, and played it simple - things Beckham used to do before he let his reputation get to his head.

 

The sad thing is that there are many people who don't follow football (and some who do) who will definitely remember Beckham long after they've forgotten about Giggs, Keane and Scholes, players who were absolutely light years ahead of David and infinitely better footballers even in their twilight years. If anything, I think even at his best (as that orthodox right winger) David was the weak link in that "dream team" midfield ManU had. Put a Luis Figo in there instead of David and we'd have been in wet dream team territory.

 

This - absolutely.

 

Over-hyped and although a good player, not a great one in my book. George Best summed him up perfectly

by saying 'apart from the fact that he can't head the ball, use his left foot or beat a man by dribbling, he's not a bad player !...'