Guest Kenton Magpie Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 It is a fact that we played better and got more points when emre played with Butt rather than Parker. If you want to be picky it is fact that Parker scored more goals, played more games, put in more effort and was probably the most effective of the two overall the whole of last season as Emre was reliable as a non reliable person can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 Buy Manuel Fernandes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 23, 2007 Share Posted July 23, 2007 no forwards making runs to pass to,doing parkers work aswell as his own,duff and n'zogbia both playing shit outside him. for the type of player he is,left side midfield in a 4-3-3 would be ideal,though i'm still not 100% sure allardyce will play this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 But what does he do? He can't tackle, he doesn't score, he isn't creative... He gets bundled off the ball after looking pretty on it for a few seconds.. 05/06 Assists Zoggy 8 Milner 9 Emre 2 out of 24 or so games + 2 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 If we were to get rid of Emre I'd be quite happy to do some sort of deal that involved Appiah coming the other way from Fener. Otherwise I think we've got enough work to be doing for the time being with regards to bringing people in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 As has been said, even if it's the right thing to do to sell Emre (it probably isn't btw), we can't afford to give ourselves an even bigger task in what remains of the transfer window. I think Emre's been pretty ineffective since he came here, but that's because he's been misused by both managers he's played under. Hopefully Allardyce can find some sort of system that allows him to play - technically he's (Souness phrase) a "proper footballer" and if you give him a defined role in a proper system there's a good chance he'll deliver. I'd stop him taking set pieces though cos he's shit at them, and I'd also have a word with him about his hissy fits/sulking/sitting on the floor in a strop while the opposition tear away with the ball. Anyway, the top and bottom of it is that in theory he can be a good player for us. It's up to Allardyce to make sure he is in practice. You'd struggle to sell him and replace him with a player of his ability between now and the end of the window imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Why are we talking about selling players? Given our injuries, we need as much depth as possible, not to mention the fact Emre is nearly, if not, in our best XI. When on form, he's definitely the most creative and technically skilled player we have but when not on form, he's rather average. His attitude lets him down at times also. Sam Allardyce is an exceptionally good man-manager and he will bring the very best out of Emre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 cant believe everyone wants rid of emre! i could think of more players that should be top of the 'get rid' list before emre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 As has been said, even if it's the right thing to do to sell Emre (it probably isn't btw), we can't afford to give ourselves an even bigger task in what remains of the transfer window. I think Emre's been pretty ineffective since he came here, but that's because he's been misused by both managers he's played under. Hopefully Allardyce can find some sort of system that allows him to play - technically he's (Souness phrase) a "proper footballer" and if you give him a defined role in a proper system there's a good chance he'll deliver. I'd stop him taking set pieces though cos he's shit at them, and I'd also have a word with him about his hissy fits/sulking/sitting on the floor in a strop while the opposition tear away with the ball. Anyway, the top and bottom of it is that in theory he can be a good player for us. It's up to Allardyce to make sure he is in practice. You'd struggle to sell him and replace him with a player of his ability between now and the end of the window imo. Do you think he was also mismanaged at Inter where he hardly got a game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Agree with the sentiment Parky, terrible timing though given the squad size, amount of time left until the window closes, the injury to Barton and the potential departure of Dyer. I'm hoping a bit of movement upfront (if Owen stays fit) and someone to hit in the form of Viduka will help him a bit because his passing has been awful since he arrived imo. That's giving him the benefit of the doubt but I'm not too convinced it'll happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boot Boy Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I like him a lot as a player and would definitely keep him. As others have said, he has the potential to be our best midfield player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 As has been said, even if it's the right thing to do to sell Emre (it probably isn't btw), we can't afford to give ourselves an even bigger task in what remains of the transfer window. I think Emre's been pretty ineffective since he came here, but that's because he's been misused by both managers he's played under. Hopefully Allardyce can find some sort of system that allows him to play - technically he's (Souness phrase) a "proper footballer" and if you give him a defined role in a proper system there's a good chance he'll deliver. I'd stop him taking set pieces though cos he's shit at them, and I'd also have a word with him about his hissy fits/sulking/sitting on the floor in a strop while the opposition tear away with the ball. Anyway, the top and bottom of it is that in theory he can be a good player for us. It's up to Allardyce to make sure he is in practice. You'd struggle to sell him and replace him with a player of his ability between now and the end of the window imo. Do you think he was also mismanaged at Inter where he hardly got a game? I know nothing of Inter or Italian football in general, but I think it's a knocking bet that he was mismanaged by the last two incumbents at NUFC, don't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Barton's injured! Quick, sell Dyer and Emre.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Barton's injured! Quick, sell Dyer and Emre.... Like the two perma-crocks are going to be any real cover this season. 30 odd games between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 As has been said, even if it's the right thing to do to sell Emre (it probably isn't btw), we can't afford to give ourselves an even bigger task in what remains of the transfer window. I think Emre's been pretty ineffective since he came here, but that's because he's been misused by both managers he's played under. Hopefully Allardyce can find some sort of system that allows him to play - technically he's (Souness phrase) a "proper footballer" and if you give him a defined role in a proper system there's a good chance he'll deliver. I'd stop him taking set pieces though cos he's shit at them, and I'd also have a word with him about his hissy fits/sulking/sitting on the floor in a strop while the opposition tear away with the ball. Anyway, the top and bottom of it is that in theory he can be a good player for us. It's up to Allardyce to make sure he is in practice. You'd struggle to sell him and replace him with a player of his ability between now and the end of the window imo. Do you think he was also mismanaged at Inter where he hardly got a game? I know nothing of Inter or Italian football in general, but I think it's a knocking bet that he was mismanaged by the last two incumbents at NUFC, don't you? I agree he has been, but he has also been pretty much ineffective most of the time as well, if he hasn't been injured that is. If Fener make a bid I'd take it...imho. Mf are far easier to replace than strikers of def. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 As has been said, even if it's the right thing to do to sell Emre (it probably isn't btw), we can't afford to give ourselves an even bigger task in what remains of the transfer window. I think Emre's been pretty ineffective since he came here, but that's because he's been misused by both managers he's played under. Hopefully Allardyce can find some sort of system that allows him to play - technically he's (Souness phrase) a "proper footballer" and if you give him a defined role in a proper system there's a good chance he'll deliver. I'd stop him taking set pieces though cos he's shit at them, and I'd also have a word with him about his hissy fits/sulking/sitting on the floor in a strop while the opposition tear away with the ball. Anyway, the top and bottom of it is that in theory he can be a good player for us. It's up to Allardyce to make sure he is in practice. You'd struggle to sell him and replace him with a player of his ability between now and the end of the window imo. Do you think he was also mismanaged at Inter where he hardly got a game? I know nothing of Inter or Italian football in general, but I think it's a knocking bet that he was mismanaged by the last two incumbents at NUFC, don't you? I agree he has been, but he has also been pretty much ineffective most of the time as well, if he hasn't been injured that is. If Fener make a bid I'd take it...imho. Mf are far easier to replace than strikers of def. Especially in an exchange of sorts with Appiah. I wonder if any handsome, talented posters have already mooted such a deal earlier in the thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 "Sell Emre" and "Sell Dyer" why not just sell the lot and give up on the game all together. We need players, we DO NOT need to be selling any, Sam has already said how hard he is finding it in the transfer market to get players in yet some on here still want to see us get rid of some of our squad. Baffles me it really does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number09 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I am really surprised that some of you want Emre out. He might not have performed extraordinarily well last season but who has? He might be the only one with a magic touch (apart from Nobby perhaps) in the middle of the park. Definitely one of Europe's finest midfield maestros! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 In our current position I can not think of one good reason why we would get rid of him. Like many others in our squad he has ability & if Sam can get the best out of him.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I am really surprised that some of you want Emre out. He might not have performed extraordinarily well alst season but who has? He might be the only one with a magic touch (apart from Nobby perhaps) in the middle of the park. Definetely one of Europe's finest midfield maestros! What has he done in the last 8 years to warrant such praise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 If we bought in another top CM first then I would have no problem with selling Emre but WE MUST buy in before we sell!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 If we bought in another top CM first then I would have no problem with selling Emre but WE MUST buy in before we sell!!! Do you really beleive we're not going to buy another 4/5 players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number09 Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 I am really surprised that some of you want Emre out. He might not have performed extraordinarily well alst season but who has? He might be the only one with a magic touch (apart from Nobby perhaps) in the middle of the park. Definetely one of Europe's finest midfield maestros! What has he done in the last 8 years to warrant such praise? Well, you might be right but playing for Galatasaray, Inter and now us ain't that bad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Skirge doesn't know what or who to fkn believe these days, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 You can't build the perfect squad in one window. Look at the trouble we've had just bringing in some defenders, our squad is even smaller than last year. Ideally with a big pot of money and all the time in the world we would get shot of someone with Emre's injuries and inconsistency, but we don't have the time nor the money to do that. Instead we must make do with a player who is brilliant on his day, who can't be too relied upon but may improve under new management and better fitness techniques. We need another midfielder anyway, espescially if Dyer leaves, leaving us with 4 centre-mids (Butt-Barton-Emre-Other) and therefore once Barton's back we'll have competition for places and won't be reliant on Emre's form/fitness all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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