BONTEMPI Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Just goes to prove what a bunch of wankers ran the club before http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/journalsport/tm_headline=we-8217-re-not-fit-enough-warns-sam%26method=full%26objectid=19564742%26siteid=50081-name_page.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 If anything our fitness levels went up when GR came in, i think we need to look further back to find where it all went tits up, just GR didn't fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Toon83 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Everybody knew that Roeder didnt have a clue, this officially confirms it. The previous regime was just a shambles from Top to Bottom including the chairman, now we have a new one, so hopefully Sam can sort this problem out as soon as possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It was when we lost Irvine to Everton under Robson and didn't properly replace him that player fitness went belly up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It was when we lost Irvine to Everton under Robson and didn't properly replace him that player fitness went belly up. Belly out for some of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Can't stand this blaming the previous regime crap. Nothing against Allardyce, but he should resist the easy digs at his predecessors If it was Roeder we'd be commenting on him getting his excuses in early... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Two a day practices. I can't believe professional footballers can't cope with these. I assumed these were a staple of modern day professional sports, particularly during pre-seasons, it certainly is the case in the USA anyway. Seems Sam picked up quite a few things during his time in the USA. Very interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucasUnger Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 sam will fix this. especially with us now getting some players in. we should have a big enough squad for the start of the season so the injured players have enough time to get to fully fitness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Can't stand this blaming the previous regime crap. Nothing against Allardyce, but he should resist the easy digs at his predecessors If it was Roeder we'd be commenting on him getting his excuses in early... I see your point. However, I think Sam is generally disgusted by the fact so many of the players are struggling with his fitness regime rather than looking to have a dig at roeder. The players have probably been whinging about it and saying they are having to do to much fitness work. You only have to look at the strength and stamina of his Bolton teams to appreciate the effects of this kind of training and I'm all for it. You can already see the benefits in the players who have come through his fitness training without problems. Carr, Martins, Milner and Zoggy have all looked much sharper and fitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 oh definitely confirms it for me, the new boss saying the old boss was crap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Even if they're not fit enough now, they still seem a helluva lot fitter than in any previous pre seasons in recent years, and their fitness will only improve under Sams guidance. Things are certainly improving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswan Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Being physically fit is important when you are a professional sportsman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Just goes to prove what a bunch of wankers ran the club before http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/journalsport/tm_headline=we-8217-re-not-fit-enough-warns-sam%26method=full%26objectid=19564742%26siteid=50081-name_page.html I'm sorry but this article is full of shit most of the injuries he mentions aren't even affected by fucking fitness and Micheal Owen? so all the guff about him being in the best condition of his life was shit then? and what about rozenhal? surely his super duper profiling systems haven't failed and pushed an unprepared player too hard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic gutted at the implication his hero Roeder (who he'd still have here over Allardyce) wasn't up to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Can't stand this blaming the previous regime crap. Nothing against Allardyce, but he should resist the easy digs at his predecessors If it was Roeder we'd be commenting on him getting his excuses in early... I see your point. However, I think Sam is generally disgusted by the fact so many of the players are struggling with his fitness regime rather than looking to have a dig at roeder. The players have probably been whinging about it and saying they are having to do to much fitness work. You only have to look at the strength and stamina of his Bolton teams to appreciate the effects of this kind of training and I'm all for it. You can already see the benefits in the players who have come through his fitness training without problems. Carr, Martins, Milner and Zoggy have all looked much sharper and fitter. Sorry, but players come back from a Summer without an international tournament rested, but less fit than they were during the previous season. Their fitness levels will obviously have to be raised regardless of how fit or unfit they were the previous season. If Allardyce is pushing them so hard that they break down and get injuries, then thats a condemnation of his training methods not his predecessor's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Just goes to prove what a bunch of wankers ran the club before http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/journalsport/tm_headline=we-8217-re-not-fit-enough-warns-sam%26method=full%26objectid=19564742%26siteid=50081-name_page.html I'm sorry but this article is full of s*** most of the injuries he mentions aren't even affected by f****** fitness and Micheal Owen? so all the guff about him being in the best condition of his life was s*** then? and what about rozenhal? surely his super duper profiling systems haven't failed and pushed an unprepared player too hard? Go watch Sunderland if your not happy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic gutted at the implication his hero Roeder (who he'd still have here over Allardyce) wasn't up to it I would have either here, but I can't stand dickheads using one shithouse to prop up another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Bringing up Rozy when slating the previous regime was a but stupid by the writer like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic gutted at the implication his hero Roeder (who he'd still have here over Allardyce) wasn't up to it I would have either here, but I can't stand dickheads using one shithouse to prop up another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Just goes to prove what a bunch of wankers ran the club before http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/newcastleunited/journalsport/tm_headline=we-8217-re-not-fit-enough-warns-sam%26method=full%26objectid=19564742%26siteid=50081-name_page.html I'm sorry but this article is full of s*** most of the injuries he mentions aren't even affected by f****** fitness and Micheal Owen? so all the guff about him being in the best condition of his life was s*** then? and what about rozenhal? surely his super duper profiling systems haven't failed and pushed an unprepared player too hard? Go watch Sunderland if your not happy! excellent response. you obviously know how to argue your case. oh that's right, it's you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Sorry, but players come back from a Summer without an international tournament rested, but less fit than they were during the previous season. Their fitness levels will obviously have to be raised regardless of how fit or unfit they were the previous season. If Allardyce is pushing them so hard that they break down and get injuries, then thats a condemnation of his training methods not his predecessor's. Can't argue with that. If the player's can't handle Sam's training and they're picking up injuries right before the season's start, then Sam must share some of the blame. Rozehnal and Barton have both picked up injuries and they've never worked for Glenn Roeder, while Butt went most of last season injury-free only to get injured when Sam comes in, so it seems unfair to point the finger at Glenn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb654 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 This would not surprise me.. Sam, wip those fckers into shape!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Verlaine Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Have to agree. But you know that Vic hates it when people respond to posts with agreement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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