FrenchWilliam Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Being physically fit is important when you are a professional sportsman Sack all the sports science folks and just hire this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Mark Hughes said similar after taking over blackburn from Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Don't see much wrong with what Sam's saying tbh. He's criticising the player's general fitness and saying it had been allowed to deteriorate. Compare Bolton's fitness record to ours last couple of seasons. If in a year's time we are still suffering breakdown epidemics then by all means have a pop. My view is that the number of players who haven't been available to start games for Newcastle has been unacceptable and I'm very glad that this will be addressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danswan Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Being physically fit is important when you are a professional sportsman Sack all the sports science folks and just hire this guy. Touché Being able to detect sarcarm is important when contributing on an internet message board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin99. Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 I just hope Sam doesn't mention this again throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Don't see much wrong with what Sam's saying tbh. He's criticising the player's general fitness and saying it had been allowed to deteriorate. Compare Bolton's fitness record to ours last couple of seasons. If in a year's time we are still suffering breakdown epidemics then by all means have a pop. My view is that the number of players who haven't been available to start games for Newcastle has been unacceptable and I'm very glad that this will be addressed. 4 players were injured before pre-season. 3 weeks later we have 10 on the sick list. When exactly are we going to address it? I don't care what shape the players were in before, training should be adjusted to accommodate the existing level of fitness of each individual player and not push them so hard they break. If excessive training caused their injuries, Allardyce is to blame. I'd rather go into the season with slightly unfit first teamers than fully fit reserves. Blaming previous the previous manager for injuries now is absolutely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HCh Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 No need to speculate. It's the curse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Have to agree. But you know that Vic hates it when people respond to posts with agreement? I don't hate it, I just don't do it myself that often sad thing is plenty dickwads on here ignore the times people happen to agree with me, it just won't do for certain folks and their forum stereotypes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantu Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Being physically fit is important when you are a professional sportsman Sack all the sports science folks and just hire this guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Have to agree. But you know that Vic hates it when people respond to posts with agreement? I don't hate it, I just don't do it myself that often sad thing is plenty dickwads on here ignore the times people happen to agree with me, it just won't do for certain folks and their forum stereotypes And what makes you such an expert on the running's of a football club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Have to agree. But you know that Vic hates it when people respond to posts with agreement? I don't hate it, I just don't do it myself that often sad thing is plenty dickwads on here ignore the times people happen to agree with me, it just won't do for certain folks and their forum stereotypes And what makes you such an expert on the running's of a football club? I can speak English for a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Vic has a point. Have to agree. But you know that Vic hates it when people respond to posts with agreement? I don't hate it, I just don't do it myself that often sad thing is plenty dickwads on here ignore the times people happen to agree with me, it just won't do for certain folks and their forum stereotypes And what makes you such an expert on the running's of a football club? I can speak English for a start What do you do for a living? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Glenn was not a capable manger and I wouldn't be surprised his fitness regium was not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 They look fit enough to me, much fitter than we were this time last year, maybe kidology from Big Sam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 If a pro footballer isn't physically fit enough then he has only himself to blame. If a footballer has a weakness in his game ie, Owen can't/wont shoot with his left, then a real pro would work that weakness out of their game. No excuses in either case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It goes further back than Roeder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 It goes further back than Roeder. We've had injury problems for years man. Remember the 2000-1 season when we missed Cort, Dyer, Dabizas & Shearer for long spells, 2003-4 season when Dyer, Woodgate, Bellamy missed loads, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 They look fit enough to me, much fitter than we were this time last year, maybe kidology from Big Sam? Exact same thought went through my mind when he specifically mentioned Bolton would be fitter than us when we played them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 If a pro footballer isn't physically fit enough then he has only himself to blame. If a footballer has a weakness in his game ie, Owen can't/wont shoot with his left, then a real pro would work that weakness out of their game. No excuses in either case. Owen scored quite a few for Liverpool with his left iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4896/75950220ic5.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Participating in the Intertoto Cup may have played a part in our fitness levels as the players may not have had enough rest and pre-season training would have been disrupted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 they did a double session today i think i left the training ground when they were all going back in and said they were training again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but what back room / sports science staff has Sam taken on? Has he got the blokes from Bolton he was after? I knew he was after them but I hadn't heard he'd got any of them yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 Sorry if this seems a stupid question, but what back room / sports science staff has Sam taken on? Has he got the blokes from Bolton he was after? I knew he was after them but I hadn't heard he'd got any of them yet. They were put on leave from Bolton but we haven't officially brought them in as they were still under contract, is my understanding, however nowt says they can't advise... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 4, 2007 Share Posted August 4, 2007 Don't see much wrong with what Sam's saying tbh. He's criticising the player's general fitness and saying it had been allowed to deteriorate. Don't see much wrong with what Sam's saying tbh. He's criticising the player's general fitness and saying it had been allowed to deteriorate. Compare Bolton's fitness record to ours last couple of seasons. If in a year's time we are still suffering breakdown epidemics then by all means have a pop. My view is that the number of players who haven't been available to start games for Newcastle has been unacceptable and I'm very glad that this will be addressed. 4 players were injured before pre-season. 3 weeks later we have 10 on the sick list. When exactly are we going to address it? I don't care what shape the players were in before, training should be adjusted to accommodate the existing level of fitness of each individual player and not push them so hard they break. If excessive training caused their injuries, Allardyce is to blame. I'd rather go into the season with slightly unfit first teamers than fully fit reserves. Blaming previous the previous manager for injuries now is absolutely ridiculous. My view is that the number of players who haven't been available to start games for Newcastle has been unacceptable and I'm very glad that this will be addressed. 4 players were injured before pre-season. 3 weeks later we have 10 on the sick list. When exactly are we going to address it? I don't care what shape the players were in before, training should be adjusted to accommodate the existing level of fitness of each individual player and not push them so hard they break. If excessive training caused their injuries, Allardyce is to blame. I'd rather go into the season with slightly unfit first teamers than fully fit reserves. Blaming previous the previous manager for injuries now is absolutely ridiculous. Just re-read what I said again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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