Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 well done to him, hope he knows he's got a a hell of a lot to learn before he's anywhere near being an international defender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 yeah just seen the squad properly,plenty of cover there so i would imagine he will be dropped from squad for qualifiers, great for him to train with terry campbell etc.. for a few days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Downing infront of Milner?dont think i have seen downing take a full back on ever, everytime i watch boro he looks to get it in the box from wherever he is on the pitch. awful player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 He's been the only thing that even remotely looks like a footballer for Boro in their first two games this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harps Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 glad to see david james back in england squad as he is englands best keeper. However, no way taylor should be in squad when lescott isnt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggybread Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 He's been the only thing that even remotely looks like a footballer for Boro in their first two games this season. not difficult just think he is too easily nulified if a team plays a high line as he doesnt have the trickery nor pace to cause a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Boy Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 so Bentley has been left out of both the U-21 and full squads? serves him right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makeyourself Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 so Bentley has been left out of both the U-21 and full squads? serves him right Serves him right just because he was tired? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 so Bentley has been left out of both the U-21 and full squads? serves him right Serves him right just because he was tired? No because he waited till after the squad deadline to say he was tired which meant england went to a tournament a man short Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 glad to see david james back in england squad as he is englands best keeper. However, no way taylor should be in squad when lescott isnt yeah, very true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Harps Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 so Bentley has been left out of both the U-21 and full squads? serves him right Serves him right just because he was tired? who cares its only the shitty under 21s. would be worth making a big deal out of it if he pulled out the senior team. i mean look at gerrard, playing for liverpool but not for england, should he be dropped? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If Taylor hadn't scored that penalty with a hobble, Lescott would rightfully have his place in the squad. FACT! Not that I'm complaining, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Gerrin Tayls. I think Lescott should be in ahead of campbell like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 The Squad Paul Robinson (Tottenham Hotspur) David James (Portsmouth) Scott Carson (Aston Villa on loan) Micah Richards (Manchester City) Wes Brown (Manchester United) Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United) John Terry (Chelsea) Ashley Cole (Chelsea) Sol Campbell (Portsmouth)-Lescott Steven Taylor (Newcastle United) Phil Neville (Everton) Nicky Shorey (Reading) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) Joe Cole (Chelsea) Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea) Michael Carrick (Manchester United) Gareth Barry (Aston Villa) Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough)Milner Kieron Dyer (West Ham United) Bentley Owen Hargreaves (Manchester United) Alan Smith (Newcastle United) Michael Owen (Newcastle United) Peter Crouch (Liverpool) Darren Bent (Tottenham Hotspur) Andrew Johnson (Everton) Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur) Fixed your squad Mclaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Just read the first page of this thread, can't believe the negativety from his own people, you should be damn proud of the lad, to play as well and have the consistency he has had at his age, not to mention in a team with the dross around him, is quite remarkable. He deserves this call up, get behind him ffs, no CB in the world is the finished article at 21 but he's a damn sight better than most and he's ours. Thank god he's not Newcastle mad, probably can't afford one of those expensive computers or has much time on his hands to surf the net, cos if he came across "support" like thiis it may make him want to say "F*** that" I'll go somewhere where I'm appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Just read the first page of this thread, can't believe the negativety from his own people, you should be damn proud of the lad, to play as well and have the consistency he has had at his age, not to mention in a team with the dross around him, is quite remarkable. He deserves this call up, get behind him ffs, no CB in the world is the finished article at 21 but he's a damn sight better than most and he's ours. Thank god he's not Newcastle mad, probably can't afford one of those expensive computers or has much time on his hands to surf the net, cos if he came across "support" like thiis it may make him want to say "F*** that" I'll go somewhere where I'm appreciated. Agree with your sentiments. Some people don't seem to like Taylor because of his character, but I'd much rather see a player so desperate to win every game he plays in than someone like Jenas. If Taylor is inexperienced it's because at times he is overcompetitive, but I've seen far worse attributes in players of his age. With a better defence around him, better midfield in front of him, better management and now England recognition, this is the season for him to step up to the next level. He strikes me as a lot more determined than the likes of Jenas, I think this is great news for him and for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Just read the first page of this thread, can't believe the negativety from his own people, you should be damn proud of the lad, to play as well and have the consistency he has had at his age, not to mention in a team with the dross around him, is quite remarkable. He deserves this call up, get behind him ffs, no CB in the world is the finished article at 21 but he's a damn sight better than most and he's ours. Thank god he's not Newcastle mad, probably can't afford one of those expensive computers or has much time on his hands to surf the net, cos if he came across "support" like thiis it may make him want to say "F*** that" I'll go somewhere where I'm appreciated. He has got his own computer and his own myspace page Is he the first defender we've had in the squad since Howey? (apart from Woody) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Downing infront of Milner?dont think i have seen downing take a full back on ever, everytime i watch boro he looks to get it in the box from wherever he is on the pitch. awful player. Downing is a better player than Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 The Squad Paul Robinson (Tottenham Hotspur) David James (Portsmouth) Scott Carson (Aston Villa on loan) Micah Richards (Manchester City) Wes Brown (Manchester United) Rio Ferdinand (Manchester United) John Terry (Chelsea) Ashley Cole (Chelsea) Sol Campbell (Portsmouth)-Lescott Steven Taylor (Newcastle United) Phil Neville (Everton) Nicky Shorey (Reading) David Beckham (LA Galaxy) Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) Frank Lampard (Chelsea) Joe Cole (Chelsea) Shaun Wright-Phillips (Chelsea) Michael Carrick (Manchester United) Gareth Barry (Aston Villa) Stewart Downing (Middlesbrough)Milner Kieron Dyer (West Ham United) Bentley Owen Hargreaves (Manchester United) Alan Smith (Newcastle United) Michael Owen (Newcastle United) Peter Crouch (Liverpool) Darren Bent (Tottenham Hotspur) Andrew Johnson (Everton) Jermain Defoe (Tottenham Hotspur) Fixed your squad Mclaren. Just when you thought it couldn't get worse than McClaren, it does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I just don't understand the 'hell of a lot to learn' people. Sure he's got a lot to learn, but you only learn by doing, and here he's being given a chance. I don't think any of the other defenders in the squad were just born with their boots on and international class already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 All this negativity is disgusting. Congratulations to one of the best young defenders in the country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I just don't understand the 'hell of a lot to learn' people. Sure he's got a lot to learn, but you only learn by doing, and here he's being given a chance. I don't think any of the other defenders in the squad were just born with their boots on and international class already. yep, i remember people absolutely aghast and howling with disbelief any time sol campbell played for england, most thought he was a donkey. then he had a great france 98 and was one of the best we had for 6 or 7 years and suddenly the criticism is wiped from everyone's memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I just don't understand the 'hell of a lot to learn' people. Sure he's got a lot to learn, but you only learn by doing, and here he's being given a chance. I don't think any of the other defenders in the squad were just born with their boots on and international class already. Maybe not, but by the time Woodgate and Ferdinand were 19 it was fairly obvious that they were exceptional. Both had full caps at that age too. Taylor has done well for half a season. Good on him. However, its not negativity, its just the plain simple fact that he still drops clangers and isnt in the league of those just mentioned. They had things to learn. Just not as much as Taylor does. Personally I think he will do well to get to the level a young, pre-injury Wes Brown did. At present, I still think Brown is well ahead of him. England is well served for centre-halves: Woodgate, Terry, Ferdinand and Carragher are very very good. Campbell was excellent for years and is still playing well. Wes Brown and Ledley King are good players. I simply interpret what is being said as 'he's done ok, but he's not in their league'. Not yet anyway. Personally I'll be happy if he does but he does have some fundamental flaws in his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Good news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Can't believe Lescott never got in I wouldn't let McClaren manage a sunday league team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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