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I've not read this thread so might be repeating other people's sentiments, but i'm really not bothered who our new manager is. Normally when someone leaves I get a burst of optimism and i'm on the news every few minutes checking for some news. This time i'm just not interested. Its going to be a 'yes man' that one Ashley's cronies is mates with, so what's the point in expecting someone good?

Don't think anyone is doubting some of the work done by whoever has done it behind the scenes, but this system only works when the manager isn't undermined. They need to work together and working from London is never going to help anything.

If you go back to January you'd see the initial dislike to Wise. He's an odious little rat, always has been, always will be. The best description I've heard was about Wise yesterday from one of the Sgt's: "I don't want that cock faced baboon in charge!" Anyone else see the similarities with Billy Mitchell?

If you go back to January you'd see the initial dislike to Wise. He's an odious little rat, always has been, always will be.

Get the fuck in!

The whole idea of Dennis Wise's job and him as a person just sits wrong with me. Can't stand the little weasel. He shouldn't get the stick in the way that he's just doing the job he's been asked to though - the blame should go to the person who has set up this undermining system. Naming no names, fatty.

Its been written to try and cover their own backs so when Keegan does leave they can say 'we always wanted him to stay' etc'.

Agree with all of this So neither of you remember the sacking of Sir Bobby and replacing him with Souness? Or how about replacing him with Glen Roeder? Short memories. I know a mental day like this polarises opinion, but if anyone really thinks Ashley is worse than Shepherd they need to check themselves. Who brought back KK in the first place, who got rid of Allardyce? We could well be in the Championship right now if Ashley and then Keegan hadn't come in, they both deserve credit. Wasn't sticking up for the events under Shepherd at all, but people were all shouting 'sack the board' back then thinking that whoever came in would simply make the club good again. Ashley isn't any better than Shepherd just because he's the new kid on the block.

It will be a godsend if Ashley finally realises how to run a football club.

I reckon he's still gone/on the way out. Gutted about it really, but it certainly adds weight to my stance (not so much aired on here) that Wise, Jiminez and co are fucking parasites. I've read the last couple of pages about this 'Llambias theory'. If thats true then we truly are a shambles. Ashley can fuck off and take his cronies with him. Who ever said the grass would be greener post Shepherd?

Our club is run by fucking cunts.

I'm waiting for Capello to pull off a mask and actually be Steve McClaren.

Blatently being done now so that when we sign no players/a couple of shit ones KK and co can say "we've made the most important signing of the season".

Where are you getting all this Valencia stuff from?

Good post, although Ameobi plays like that when he's fully fit.

Beye was very 'leggy'. Looked about as fit as me. Agree HTT about Owen, sadly we had no other option today. When all fit I reckon 4-3-3 with Owen deeper would be KK's plan.

This thread is class. Big up Nile brrrrrap.

No sound on in our pub but I got an extremely abusive text from my usually well mannered Dad slating Craig Burley.

Unbelievable.

We (as fans) have to back him, like it or not tbh.

That was embarrasing from Shola today. I'd forgotten how bad he was. Show some fucking effort you cunt.

http://www.avfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~1378813,00.html Can't see this anywhere else on the board. Feel free to delete if it is. http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1376531,00.html

This match also re-affirmed that this forum is full of mongs. (not directed at you)

Morning Gemmill.

Maybe Gutierrez up with Martins? Milner is shit.