steve_69

I pity those poor bastards who haven't been on the forum all day and see there are 4 new pages on this thread, only to have their excitement crushed

As I said earlier Supermac or Mickey Quinn nothing compares The best bit about SuperMacs debut was him coming off after scoring the first two to have two front teeth out, then coming back on to get his hat trick. Instant hero. Forever. I'd forgotten all about that, the teeth. The photographs of him grinning in the weeks that followed. ---------------------------------- As we're we back in time there, and as this is the Ben Arfa thread I was watching the other day and saw shades of Ben Arfa in some of those runs, the balance and keeping his feet when knocked, the swerves and turns.. Yeah, that was unreal. Amazing skill. It's fantastic to watch, he was an unbelievable talent but........the standard of defending in that video was laughable at times.

All true, but do you not think Kenyon would've come out and denied it publicly if it wasn't true? If people were blatantly making shit up about him and his business dealings you'd think he'd release a statement of some sort

Which may have all originated from Bishop and Ashley. Kenyon has said nowt himself. He hasn't came out to deny it either which for a person of his standing he would. I was thinking that as well but then I thought how a little money can make people more or less loyal/apahetic once on the payroll. Perhaps MA has appointed Kenyon as an advisor and has him on a very high hourly rate. This of course a smokescreen just to buy MA time til the end of Jan. Risk and reward and all that.... This bloke was chief executive at Man Utd and Chelsea do you really think he would get involved in somethink like this. We know Ashley is a c*** but think people are taking it a bit far when they actually think that a well respected person on football is playing along with Ashley to p*ss the fans off again and not spend in January - no not having that - yes the deal may fail due to Ashleys demands but to suggest a ploy is really just silly - nobody expected Ashley to buy anyway so why does he need a masterplan to try and justify it. Kenyon would do his standing in the game no end of damage if it came out he was colluding with a crook like Ashley. In our heads it would. The reality is that nobody else really gives a shit about this club. We’re only visible because of some of the league we play in. Otherwise, there’s nothing newsworthy about this club to the outside football fan apart from the odd player indiscretion, like Shelvey and his racism.. or Joey Barton getting locked up. If we spent money and competed in the league then we could undo years of being out of sight/out of mind. But right now that’s not the case. Peter Kenyon could well be reaping publicity off this full well knowing it’s all bollocks. But aside from us, there would be no repercussions for him at all.. and what are we gonna do about it? Give Opta Advisors what for on twitter? I’m not talking about his standing among fans, I’m talking about his standing when it comes to football investors, CEOs, the business press, potential recruiters etc. He just doesn’t strike me as that kind of guy at all. And if he was courting publicity wouldn’t it generate more if he came out and spoke to the media, agreed to interviews, was visible at games? For someone supposedly courting publicity he’s doing a very good job of keeping his head down.

Which may have all originated from Bishop and Ashley. Kenyon has said nowt himself. He hasn't came out to deny it either which for a person of his standing he would. I was thinking that as well but then I thought how a little money can make people more or less loyal/apahetic once on the payroll. Perhaps MA has appointed Kenyon as an advisor and has him on a very high hourly rate. This of course a smokescreen just to buy MA time til the end of Jan. Risk and reward and all that.... This bloke was chief executive at Man Utd and Chelsea do you really think he would get involved in somethink like this. We know Ashley is a cunt but think people are taking it a bit far when they actually think that a well respected person on football is playing along with Ashley to piss the fans off again and not spend in January - no not having that - yes the deal may fail due to Ashleys demands but to suggest a ploy is really just silly - nobody expected Ashley to buy anyway so why does he need a masterplan to try and justify it. Kenyon would do his standing in the game no end of damage if it came out he was colluding with a crook like Ashley. Ashley's reputation is dirt, both in business and football. Take another look at the people Bishop was able to rustle up to speak in support of Ashley and against Rafa at the start of the season: Keys, Gray, Wise, Allardyce, Pardew etc (have i missed anyone?). Now take a look at the guy you are claiming is in collusion with Ashley over a fake transfer ruse..... Kenyon is about as far removed from that set of scumbags as you're likely to find and I'm 1000% convinced he wouldn't involve himself in anything like is being suggested on here.

Under Mourinho it was.

Always people who will have had to sign an NDA to even know the news, yet feel the need to break said agreement to tell people on social media. We’ll know if and when it happens, not before. Any “leaked” news is either bullshit or, no, just bullshit. He’s here forever. I imagine if anyone inside the club was going to know about a takeover it would be the finance department and even if an NDA had been signed stopping either buyer or seller from speaking about details of the takeover, it doesn't stop someone from inside the club leaking information. I'm pretty sure that's how the vast majority of insider share trading is done. Christ, I sign NDAs every month just for small projects within the company. I’d be sacked and sued if I disclosed any information around them until the project is classed as closed. Never think “i’ll go stick this news on twitter” but I guess Carl in payroll might think otherwise, maybe? I get what you're saying but this one wasn't on Twitter, it was person to person (apparently) so risk is minimised. Would everyone within the club be asked to sign an NDA? Wouldn't it just be solicitors and the potential buyer?

I'm just clinging on to hope for dear life

Always people who will have had to sign an NDA to even know the news, yet feel the need to break said agreement to tell people on social media. We’ll know if and when it happens, not before. Any “leaked” news is either bullshit or, no, just bullshit. He’s here forever. I imagine if anyone inside the club was going to know about a takeover it would be the finance department and even if an NDA had been signed stopping either buyer or seller from speaking about details of the takeover, it doesn't stop someone from inside the club leaking information. I'm pretty sure that's how the vast majority of insider share trading is done.

On the flip side of it, it's undoubtedly a pain in the arse for him as well. Sports Direct shareholders/board members are no doubt annoyed by the bad publicity surrounding Ashley and want him ousted from his position at the company he founded, and I would imagine the disruption to their social media channels hasn't gone unnoticed. He gets pressured every transfer window by the manager, media and fans, gets his name brought up in parliament and has abuse hurled at him in the street by fans of the club. Now he's getting followed around London by the LMG and he's seen a rival website created to drive online sales away from his tat emporium. Maybe none of that matters to him and he's happy to cop the flack to continue his free advertising, but it's hardly hassle-free for him is it.

That could be the biggest hurdle in all of this. If Kenyon's consortium or another investment group is buying a club as a business interest it has to make financial sense. If due diligence shows the club to be worth £100m less than Ashley is asking, due to the low value of playing staff, poor training facilities, stadium needing updating etc. that isn't a sound investment and a lower offer makes sense. Kenyon could hardly go back to his backers and recommend that they pay £300m for a club that is actually worth £200m. That could've been why Staveley walked away, maybe she was serious after all but pissed Ashley off because she proved he was overpricing the club. She wasn't serious. She was a big a player as Ashley. According to? Her actions throughout. She was a chancer. Would have been out of the fire and in to the volcano with her. Don't worry, a lot of people were fooled. Her apparent interest almost ruined out transfer window which could have seen us relegated. Looks like lessons learned this time round. It's not that i was fooled, i was merely speculating in my post. I'm just amazed at how much concrete knowledge you have on the subject. Why haven't you spoken up with these 'facts' before now?

That could be the biggest hurdle in all of this. If Kenyon's consortium or another investment group is buying a club as a business interest it has to make financial sense. If due diligence shows the club to be worth £100m less than Ashley is asking, due to the low value of playing staff, poor training facilities, stadium needing updating etc. that isn't a sound investment and a lower offer makes sense. Kenyon could hardly go back to his backers and recommend that they pay £300m for a club that is actually worth £200m. That could've been why Staveley walked away, maybe she was serious after all but pissed Ashley off because she proved he was overpricing the club. She wasn't serious. She was a big a player as Ashley. According to? Her actions throughout. She was a chancer. Would have been out of the fire and in to the volcano with her.

That could be the biggest hurdle in all of this. If Kenyon's consortium or another investment group is buying a club as a business interest it has to make financial sense. If due diligence shows the club to be worth £100m less than Ashley is asking, due to the low value of playing staff, poor training facilities, stadium needing updating etc. that isn't a sound investment and a lower offer makes sense. Kenyon could hardly go back to his backers and recommend that they pay £300m for a club that is actually worth £200m. That could've been why Staveley walked away, maybe she was serious after all but pissed Ashley off because she proved he was overpricing the club. She wasn't serious. She was a big a player as Ashley. According to?

That could be the biggest hurdle in all of this. If Kenyon's consortium or another investment group is buying a club as a business interest it has to make financial sense. If due diligence shows the club to be worth £100m less than Ashley is asking due to the low value of playing staff, poor training facilities, stadium needing updating etc. that isn't a sound investment and a lower offer makes sense. Kenyon could hardly go back to his backers and recommend that they pay £300m for a club that is actually worth £200m. That could've been why Staveley walked away, maybe she was serious after all but pissed Ashley off because she proved he was overpricing the club.

Get it on Twitter asap

Would the 'new buyers' have to commission a property survey on the stadium and training facilities as part of their due diligence?

Sucks to be you fat lad

Might as well put this to bed for good then lads

The big premium bit isn't actually in the valuation itself i don't think. With the TV deal in place £300m doesn't sound astronomical for a big PL club. The problem is that the squad needs about £100m worth of investment at least, the stadium needs sorting out, the training ground needs updating etc. So the next owner is effectively paying around £450m for the club, which is way over the odds for a perennial relegation scrapper. Ashley doesn't see it that way though. He specialises in running scruffy threadbare, warehouse-type businesses on a shoestring and doesn't see anything wrong with it.

People go on about Joselu, but this guy is comfortably the wankest player we've had for a very long time.

Reckon this is a smokescreen, then? Not necessarily a smokescreen, just similar to Staveley. She never had the money to get the deal done so why did she bother? She sort of operates in the same sphere as Kenyon in that he plays with other people’s money. Having your name in the news can be quite a positive thing in that regard. Out of sight out of mind. How would Ashley benefit from this dominating the news?? That’s far easier to work out. Kenyon is never gonna come out and say “I actually don’t have a pot to piss in” so he’s never going to deny the rumours. (Which Ashley/Bishop started) The only thing that gives me a shred of hope in all this is that Kenyon is a serious football man with a high profile, excellent reputation and good standing in the game. Associating himself with an oaf like Ashley for some publicity stunt would not do him any good in any capacity. Neither would a failed bit for a football club that is apparently up for sale. What would he realistically stand to gain from associating his name with an imaginary bid for NUFC?

His general game doesn't seem great but he does have an end product, which is arguably the most important part and the bit that's hardest to coach into a player. TBH i'd rather have a player who looks a bit crap but creates and scores when he does play, than one who has loads of touches and looks busy/neat but does fuck all (Colback springs to mind).

Probably on legally in Australia

Please no Manquillo and get Schar out for Lascelles after his horror show in the West Ham game

Pretty sure the Rockefeller lot were mentioned when the rumours first emerged yeah The Rockerfeller Group were mentioned on the radio again this morning in regards to the Kenyon story. Not that i believe any of this utter horseshit but say it is genuine, Ashley said that a bidder would have to prove the funds were in place before they got to look at the books, right? So it makes no difference if a formal bid has been made as long as proof of funds has been shown. If Kenyon's lot are already in talks then i'm guessing the money is already in place?