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So you admit your eight-season second division club, that historically wasn't even the biggest club in Liverpool, bought its way to all its success through external money? And now you believe, with a straight face, that Liverpool should be allowed to spend double what Everton ever can on wages, rendering it impossible for them ever to compete with you? And you believe this isn't corrupt because Liverpool sell more shirts in Asia thanks to the legacy of bankrolled success?

I'm waiting to see how he feels about the huge Saudi money poured into Liverpool through inflated player sales to the Saudi league. Has any club taken more money from the Saudis? Presumably he's up in arms about this and unable to support his own club.

PSR is cheating. UEFA coefficient payments is cheating. Most fans of most clubs across the country want a level playing field. I can think of a few who don't and your club is prime amongst them. Liverpool and its fans are cheerleaders for corruption and anti-competitive rules that guarantee your position indefinitely. Perhaps learn a little about the history of your own club and its eight seasons in division two before it was bankrolled to success by external money.

His shit performances were probably because he was trying to avoid injury ahead of his lucrative summer move. His workrate in the last few games especially was awful and it almost cost us CL qualification. Unfortunately he'll probably come good once he gains fitness. He'll be busting a gut more then.

He's not wrong tbf with all the decisions Liverpool are getting. They'll find form at some point but they don't even need to play well if VAR is there. With that said, I can see Arsenal getting a helping hand this weekend. Hope I'm wrong.

I'd definitely start Osula. We can't go too weak but we also need Big Nick fresh for the weekend.

His first yellow shouldn't have been a yellow.

We'd be blaming the defender for being so stupid and throwing the game for us.

It wasn't wishful thinking that we sat Isak in the reserves. It was the only smart decision then and remains the best decision in hindsight. Whoever makes the decisions buckled at the last minute and it'll have long term consequences, but let's not pretend the club had to sell Isak. We had a choice of short-term or long-term focus and we took the former.

Do you honestly believe that Liverpool were ever going to just step aside and let us sign Ekitike? They wanted both, and can afford to pay both three times what we can offer just one of them. Romano is a client journalist who posts shite like this for clubs and agents that pay him.

Not a chance we could afford the wages for both. The suggestion we'd ever have both was just clickbait from the usual hacks on twitter. In the end, we couldnt afford the wages for either. And that is PSR. Liverpool have nothing to worry about because all ladders below them have been kicked away. Even Man U aren't worried because they know these mechanisms (PSR, UEFA coefficients, etc) are in place. The club world cup feels like their solution to the failed european super league and will expand to include only those clubs. We also have the Saudis (ironically) assuring Liverpool money for their ageing big-salary stars.

You do realise that 90% of those 'fans' taking the piss online will happily ditch Liverpool for another club if they have a few bad seasons, and many would struggle to find Liverpool on a map?

I see it the other way around. Selling is short term thinking. Long term the precedent is set. The club's statement about only selling when conditions are met now looks laughable. When the club tries to bluff or finds itself in a game of brinkmanship in future, it will be weakened because everyone remembers Isak. When players don't get what they want, they'll remember how Isak successfully got his move. It's the long term where this sale doesn't make sense.

The club have made a huge mistake here in rewarding Liverpool and Isak for their underhanded tactics. It was imperative that we made an example of Isak and of Liverpool. Now everyone will be tapping up our star players because they know they can. Surely another forward has been agreed as there's no way they'd be that stupid to sell then try to negotiate. Even still, the repercussions of this will be felt when we lose the likes of Tonali.

Even if his value drops by 50m, you look back on it and say we made an example of a player acting disgracefully and ensured no club, or player, does this to us again. Even if we sell for 130 and then he does his ACL a week later, we've set that dangerous precedent and our players and other clubs take note. Teams will be straight onto Tonali's agent and others.

Selling him to Liverpool sets a dangerous precedent. They will just come for Tonali next summer. A quick call to Sandro's agent and get their twitter shills to put out relentless noise. It'll be proven to work. We have to make an example of Isak. I think the club have made a decision on a reasonable set of conditions (two strikers and a figure - perhaps 150m) and unless those conditions are met, they won't budge. All this noise is coming Isak's agent and from Liverpool feeding stuff to twats like Ben Jacobs, and the giveaway is the usual bits like 'if they just open the door for us to bid'. I'd hope the club can see through all the noise and bluster.

Liverpool could switch target in January if someone else is tearing the league up at home or abroad. They've ensured Isak didn't play against them and tapping him up has completely messed up our summer window, so the Liverpool boardroom will be loving that. I also don't think we'll ever sell to Liverpool, for exactly the above reasons. More importantly, holding our ground and denying both Isak and Liverpool what they want will ensure this will never happen to us again. Clubs will find it far harder to tap up our players because our players will know what happened to Isak. Liverpool are extremely arrogant as both a club and fanbase and their boardroom would have expected to have Isak in ages ago, just as their fans have been gloating about it all summer. They're running a risk if they get injuries up front that they won't have enough depth. They may still end up panic signing someone like Wissa.

They'll have offered him an absolute fortune in wages that few clubs in the world could pay. I still can't see us selling. If we were going to do that, we'd have made the decision a while ago when he escalated it as far as he could. Makes no sense to change our minds now, with less time and no replacements in.

To put things in perspective, the late winner cost us 1 point. BBC saying "heartbreak" is just them being wet wipes. We've been through relegations and been decades without trophies. Whoever wrote that supports a red cartel club. There's a long season ahead of us. Liverpool fans don't seem the happiest bunch either. They didn't take the cup final loss well. They haven't taken the rejected Isak bid well. They haven't taken being outplayed by 10 men well. Their arrogance is being noted by other sets of fans and they're only setting themselves up a fall. We've got another match in a few days. A new striker will come in. A week from now, a lot can change.

While I'll always listen to fans that see him every week, you often see players who are key players in a struggling team move to a stronger team and look twice the player. Off the top of my head, Wijnaldum is a good example. Strand Larsen's not an exciting player but he looks a smart finisher who can finish moves. That's what we're crying out for. What we lose in creativity, we'll gain in having a target for crosses and hold up play.

I can't see us selling because the money isn't much good to us this late in the window. I think he'll reintegrate. He'll need us and we'll need him and it'll be a marriage of convenience that buys us time to replace him and to find a non-PL club to buy him.

Overpaying for a decent player isn't the end of the world. Yes, it restricts us from buying a better one further down the line and ties up money in wages as we'll overpay there too. But we don't have a choice. If we can reintegrate Isak, we'd have needed reliable cover anyway. And if we can't, then the striker needs to be someone proven. If we have to overpay 10 or even 20m on Strand Larsen or Wissa, just do it.

I still see a way back for him. I think a new contract will become a convenient face saving exercise for both the player and club. Yes, you don't want to reward his behaviour with an improved contract, but if it means we'll have stood up to Liverpool's tactics and got him playing again in the absence of any decent striker alternatives, it's probably the best realistic outcome from our side. Once the window shuts and Liverpool weren't willing to pay more than Wirtz for him, I think he'll see things differently. He'll want to play but needs to save face himself, so a new contract with a release clause in it will do that and help to get more sceptical fans on board. Looking at the strikers on the market right now, I think this is going to be our strategy and we'll look to sign 1 striker as a Wilson replacement.

Yes we missed Isak's ability to drop deep and create but Gordon put a far bigger shift in than Isak ever has and his relentless workrate helped us to keep on top of them. Even pre-sulk Isak didn't have the stamina to put that kind of shift in. We smothered them at times today and with less pressing from the front, we might have seen a very different game play out.

Sorry. Should never have questioned Paul Joyce.